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AIBU for thinking hating people for their political leanings is perfectly normal?

576 replies

VelvetChairGirl · 22/09/2021 11:03

I have been reading a brexit thread on here and lots of brexit voters in it seem horrified that they are hated and families have stopped talking to each other, and cut each other off over it.

but its politics nothing affects us more then politics, we have people who cut off others for believing in conspiracy theories and things. Brexit is the biggest shake up in this country in my life time, its taken away our freedom of movement for work and education, needlessly introduced a tonne of red tape, made our rights and standards extremely vulnerable to being destroyed (tories dont like food standards and workers rights this is well documented and they are in charge right now), reduced our standing in the world and will very likely lead us to being the poor man of Europe again, not to mention the fact its cut off vital EU funding to science research, regeneration and education projects up and down the county.

it affects everyone, of course people are perfectly entitled to hate those who voted to hurt them financially, prospects wise etc as much as they would hate someone who physically stole from them, theres very little difference is there?

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OneTC · 22/09/2021 11:04

Unless it's genuinely extreme politics then no it's completely fucking bonkers

IveGotASongThatllGetOnYNerves · 22/09/2021 11:07

Depends really.
I would hate someone who held extreme views eg edl but if it's something like Tory v labour then no, disagree, certainly. Hate, no.

UtterlyUnimaginativeUsername · 22/09/2021 11:07

I don't hate anyone for having an opinion that differs from mine, no matter how wildly.

Seeline · 22/09/2021 11:07

True hatred is going a bit far unless it's against the Nazis or similar.

In a democracy people have the right to have different views, and most will act in a way that they feel benefits them first and the rest of society second. Just because you do not agree with their point of view is not a reason for hatred.

girlmom21 · 22/09/2021 11:08

To hate somebody for having a different view to you is absolutely absurd.

People's voting persuasions are not person attacks.

girlmom21 · 22/09/2021 11:09
  • People's voting persuasions are not personal attacks.

Repost because of the typo!

TheNatureOfTheCatastrophe · 22/09/2021 11:10

I think if you're going around actually hating half the country that's going to be hazardous to your mental health.

4BlueTowers · 22/09/2021 11:10

Not normal in a modern and peaceful democratic society.

Intense dislike maybe, but where do you draw the line with 'hatred'. cancel culture? Imprisoning people who do not believe what you believe? Worse than this?

Justcallmebebes · 22/09/2021 11:10

Agreed One TC. Madness. I have friends/acquittances from all political spectrums. Some I disagree with vehemently and may think they're a bit mad (as they probably think of me), but I can honestly say I have never fallen out with anyone over politics nor do I know anyone who has. As for hating someone for their political views, as long as they're not extreme neo Nazis, ISIS supporters or similar, that's mental

PlanDeRaccordement · 22/09/2021 11:10

people are perfectly entitled to hate those who voted to hurt them financially, prospects wise etc as much as they would hate someone who physically stole from them, theres very little difference is there?

No, hate is never the answer.

thewhatsit · 22/09/2021 11:11

Actual hatred is pretty strong for mainstream political opinions.

TheNatureOfTheCatastrophe · 22/09/2021 11:13

Almost all political decisions will have winners and losers. If I go around loathing anyone who thinks that choice A is best for the country even though it may hurt people like me then I'll be in a constant state of rage.

Angrymum22 · 22/09/2021 11:13

Respecting other people’s point of view and beliefs is a sign of tolerance and intelligence. You are never going to change someone’s mind by ridicule or rudeness.

ufucoffee · 22/09/2021 11:14

I don't hate people with different political views. Some I feel sorry for, some I laugh at because I think they're funny.

BigHeartyTruffle · 22/09/2021 11:15

It’s not just about opinions though is it - the way people vote is an expression of their morals and values. While I would never hate anyone for disagreeing with me, I do have to question the values of people who (e.g.) vote for a party that presides over massive cuts to welfare. And to be honest this does make me inclined to dislike them.

MurielSpriggs · 22/09/2021 11:16

YANBU, friendships and relationships do depend on sharing values, and politics is absolutely about values. It's not like supporting different football teams. Politics actually has real-world consequences.

MajorCarolDanvers · 22/09/2021 11:17

Unless you are talking about extreme politics - facism etc then its completely unreasonable to hate someone because they have different opinions to you.

And comparing someone who has a different view on how the economics of the country should run to someone committing a criminal offence is also unreasonable.

I would suggest that it is undemocratic to hate someone for thinking differently.

MurielSpriggs · 22/09/2021 11:17

@Angrymum22

Respecting other people’s point of view and beliefs is a sign of tolerance and intelligence. You are never going to change someone’s mind by ridicule or rudeness.
But you don't have to be friendly with them.
BIoodyStupidJohnson · 22/09/2021 11:18

YABU. Hating people for their political views isn't normal, it's extreme and the sign of an immature mind.

There used to be this idea of 'light, not heat'. That's why Nick Griffin was asked onto Question Time in 2009. Rather than attacking the position, expose it to rigorous interrogation and the whole thing falls apart. His standing never recovered and the BNP's vote share dwindled.

Now what seems to happen is that people are corralled into their little 'they-all-think-exactly-like-me' castles by Facebook or Twitter algorithms and end up just vomiting thoughtless, soundbite-laden loathing at each other over the parapets.

It's neither productive, healthy nor useful. It's producing a society of bellowing fools who seem to only be comfortable when surrounded by people who think exactly the same way.

lightand · 22/09/2021 11:19

Hating someone, harms yourself.
Destructive, and not worth it.

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 22/09/2021 11:20

Depends on the context. I thought my (Polish) friend was quite right to cut off 'friends' going on about stopping migration from Eastern Europe... so basically racism. Brexit brought out a lot of racism (or xenophobia)

But some other stuff is just difference in opinions with the same overall result.

FourTeaFallOut · 22/09/2021 11:21

I think the level of vitriol hurled at people on mn, even though they are operating pretty much in the centre, because they voted differently to yourself is pretty unhinged.

I think the idea that someone who voted differently to you is akin to all the worst things you can imagine then you must be about the most miserable and frightened person around.

Narutocrazyfox · 22/09/2021 11:21

Reading your post is very sad OP. It's a very unreasonable mindset to hate someone because they disagree with you. When it comes to politics nothing is black and white - people voted to leave the EU for wildly different reasons. I avoid talking about politics with people if I can, but when I do I try to understand their views and why they may feel the way they do.

Hate is never the answer.

OneTC · 22/09/2021 11:21

It's becoming perfectly normal, or usual, though, which is a pretty unfortunate development for society

DisappearingGirl · 22/09/2021 11:22

Now what seems to happen is that people are corralled into their little 'they-all-think-exactly-like-me' castles by Facebook or Twitter algorithms and end up just vomiting thoughtless, soundbite-laden loathing at each other over the parapets.

It's neither productive, healthy nor useful. It's producing a society of bellowing fools who seem to only be comfortable when surrounded by people who think exactly the same way.

I agree with this entirely! I have a couple of Facebook friends who often crop up on my news feed, bellowing at strangers in this manner :)