AIBU for thinking hating people for their political leanings is perfectly normal?

[VelvetChairGirl]

I have been reading a brexit thread on here and lots of brexit voters in it seem horrified that they are hated and families have stopped talking to each other, and cut each other off over it.

but its politics nothing affects us more then politics, we have people who cut off others for believing in conspiracy theories and things. Brexit is the biggest shake up in this country in my life time, its taken away our freedom of movement for work and education, needlessly introduced a tonne of red tape, made our rights and standards extremely vulnerable to being destroyed (tories dont like food standards and workers rights this is well documented and they are in charge right now), reduced our standing in the world and will very likely lead us to being the poor man of Europe again, not to mention the fact its cut off vital EU funding to science research, regeneration and education projects up and down the county.

it affects everyone, of course people are perfectly entitled to hate those who voted to hurt them financially, prospects wise etc as much as they would hate someone who physically stole from them, theres very little difference is there?

Minimum wage is certainly not EU law.
Minimum working time directive is EU but the way it was implemented in the UK made it completely toothless anyway.

I told my Brexit voting friend that I hoped she was right after the results of the vote. I don’t hate her though we don’t agree on politics.
I also agreed to not discuss covid with another friend who believes all the covid conspiracies. We have lots of other things we agree on.
Most of us have more in common than differences, so unless it’s outright racism or bigotry, I’m happy to get along with most people.

You don't have to hate anyone. If you like hating that's different. But it will only hurt yourself.

Then there's the problem of where you stop. Someone hates you because you drive to school not walk and you're ruining their planet? What a fun game to spend your one and only life on. Who is more justified in hating who more.

It's not the answer.

I can't imagine hating someone for their political views; I could easily hate their views but not them.

There are people with very extreme political opinions whom I would avoid as far as possible.

YABU. Massively.

I think it’s intellectual laziness. Instead of trying to understand what someone else's point may be it’s easier to brand them as someone worthy of hate. People also seem to increasingly assume that others have an absolutionist view instead of “weighed it up and on-balance I’m leaning to vote Labour” = you must be a marxist “weighed it up and on balance decided to vote for brexit” = you must really hate foreigners.

Its childish, reminds me a lot of myself when I was a teenager, I grew out of it eventually (still prone to having a rant though - not perfect). People are so tribal these days, I danno maybe they always were and social media has amplified it.

Does remind me of those group polarisation studies

dictionary.apa.org/group-polarization

@OneTC

Unless it's genuinely extreme politics then no it's completely fucking bonkers

Totally agree

@OneTC

Unless it's genuinely extreme politics then no it's completely fucking bonkers

Hear hear

@TinaYouFatLard

You are literally a bigot.

People seem to put a difference here between versions of hate.

Everyone has their own reasons for voting the way they do. Hating someone for it is ridiculous

I voted yanbu but I would only go as far as “very much dislike” rather that hate.
I don’t actually wish people such as Brexiters ill, but I do feel very angry and frustrated with them.

Well my dad voted Brexit and i voted remain.. should i hate him? I don't.

Would be hate for a Nazi or something but that’s obviously extreme!

You can "hate" whoever you like, it's a free country and all that. I just think it's extremely immature and childish to not even be able to talk to people with a different viewpoint.

Do you only like to have people who have the same opinions around you? That's the definition of an echo chamber. What do you think will happen if you hear a "bad" opinion?

What would you do if you found out someone in your friend group had a different opinion? Cast them out? Remove yourself? Seems ridiculous to me.

@TinaYouFatLard

You are literally a bigot.

Sadly yes

I don't think it's a binary good/bad thing. I'm the only person who voted to remain in my family and my sister voted conservative basically because she just wanted Brexit finished with, but is now slagging off the Tories as much as I am. I can't hate my family for it, just think they weren't as informed as they thought they were and didn't see the long term effects of their vote. I still love them though and they had some good reasons for their choices too. I certainly won't withdraw my love from them because of it!

@TheNatureOfTheCatastrophe

Minimum wage is certainly not EU law. Minimum working time directive is EU but the way it was implemented in the UK made it completely toothless anyway.

we got minimum wage because the EU was pushing for it unfortunately we could set our own minimum.

I know about the other one, I had to wave it in my zero hour job but the thought was there and we actually had to pay extra for demanding a get out clause, its bloody shameful that you start a job then after you have been given it you are pressured to sign a waver opting out, thats gun to head territory because you already have the job, but thats not the EUs fault thats our governments doing, at least its highlighted what our hours should be.

most pensioners in this country dont realise we have the lowest pension rate in Europe, we need to make sure people are aware of how low we really are and how much the rich really do take the piss in this country, look at train fares here compared with mainland europe for example, decades of politicians shafting us and blaming the EU for it, our people need to wake up but instead we handed more power to the shafters.

No. What a boring world it would be if we only socialised with people who agree with everything we say and think!
Falling out with family over differing views is pretty pathetic, nothing better than a lively political debate imo.

Op what do you think about the term bigot and who it applies to?

Does hate qualify?

@FreeBritnee

Well I don’t know. If you felt that the Tories were plunging your family into poverty then I can completely understand why you might hate Tory voters. That’s just common sense. It would require you to have an extremely strong opinion on a subject in the first place though.

I've noticed it's always Labour supporters who are intolerant.

@YouMeandtheSpew

It’s not just about opinions though is it - the way people vote is an expression of their morals and values. While I would never hate anyone for disagreeing with me, I do have to question the values of people who (e.g.) vote for a party that presides over massive cuts to welfare. And to be honest this does make me inclined to dislike them.

Exactly. In my experience someone’s politics are generally a pretty good indicator of what they’re like as a person. I may not dislike them purely for their politics but I’ll sure as hell dislike them for their personality, and their politics are a pretty good indicator of that.

I have a very strained relationship with my father, because he’s a arrogant, racist, homophobic, misogynistic, xenophobic pig. It became even more strained in the run-up and aftermath of the Brexit referendum. He’d tell you I stopped speaking to him because he voted for Brexit. The truth is that his vote in the referendum reflected his racism, xenophobia, and arrogance, and I decided I’d had enough of it.

I’m a dark skinned, bisexual woman with a disability who voted Tory at the last election, just because I probably voted like your dad, it is not an indicator of my personality or that I am anything like him. In fact, I’m pretty sure I’m the type of person your dad hates.

At the last election, the tories were the only party who knew what a woman was & as a sexual abuse survivor, this is extremely important to me so I held my nose & voted for them. Does that mean I agree with everything they stand for though? No. We’re all voting for who we think is the best of a bad bunch & we all have our lines in the sand & our personal hills to die on, for me it’s sex based rights but for the poster you quoted it’s welfare which inevitably means we’ll be voting for different parties. I’m certainly not going to hate them for voting differently to me and I don’t even disagree with them. If there was a party who upheld sex based rights AND protected / increased welfare then believe me, I would have voted for them.

A key lesson in life is learning to tolerate and respect views of others. It’s perfectly acceptable for people to agree to disagree on a topic, infact it’s healthy.

Hate is such a strong emotion. Frustration? Yes. Disappointment? Yes. Disbelief? Yes. They all seem far more reasonable a response to me.

@Lollipop444

Everyone has unique personal circumstances and life experiences and the majority will vote according to those and what they perceive will benefit their own situation primarily and the country as a whole secondarily.

Disagreement and debate is healthy, although trying to understand the viewpoints of others and why they voted as they did is a more grown up and constructive way to behave.

Hate and cancel culture etc does nothing to promote greater understanding and cohesion.

Totally agree with this.

Life would be boring if we all thought the same, and the reason people vote one way or another are vast.

Often it can come down to one policy that tips the scales for someone when deciding how to vote. Would be pretty idiotic to hate someone who's views on the whole mirrored your own but on one policy they opted to vote a different way.

I rarely talk about politics as it does lead to this type of thing. Sadly as time goes on people are becoming less and less tolerant of other peoples views and that is greatly hurting society as a whole,

I don't want to know or care how my friends and family vote. Too potentially divisive. We all keep it private.