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How would you fix the worlds problems?

277 replies

Moneysavvymam · 21/09/2021 14:14

I think i have it, I really do.
Everyone is using food banks, right? unemployment is rife. Depression, anxiety, suicide. Obesity. Anti social behaviour and crime rates.

Okay. Are you ready?

Community gardens and orchards. Free to pick what you like, children's and adults clubs to teach people when to pick, sow, etc. Not just food but flowers. Trees. Perenials such as rhubarb, kale and others. I really think that it could work.

I saw a TED Talk about a town who has a whole community or people who grow food in random places wherever there is a free bit of grass and I swear to god I think it could work really well.

I actually can't see a problem arising and if the problem is 'the economy' well how? Because when people are struggling to pay for food I really dgaf about the economy.
Allotments are a nice idea but many are full and have waiting lists of Years and years.

We have a couple of small, secret almost community gardens in a few big parks in our city and they are really cute, work well. Nobody ruins them and if someone took all of the cucumbers then there is a spirit of 'well I guess they needed them'. Part of the reward is in the growing and outside space and time.

Also flowers. There are so many people living in tiny flats with no or very little outside space. Wouldn't adding a few flowers be nice? Maybe a pear tree or 2.

Its the good life isn't it? A very frequent dream is packing up and living off the land. Well why not communal land? What good is that piece of grass? Needs cutting, is littered all over and what? Pooed on?

I'm not some radical who will go round digging up peoples gardens or anything but I was thinking about a previous poster who said that they sorted out their communal garden in their flats and only after she made it nice did everyone else start using it. Well wouldn't the same happen everywhere?
People pay money to go to botanical gardens, so there is a market for this (if you know what I mean)

There could be communal run compost bins which would dramatically reduce waste and green house gasses. That compost would mean almost no costs because that's the main one isn't it?
Classes could be held at libraries and community centres about seed saving.
Everyone could save their pot noodle pots and yoghurt tubs for plant pots. Arts and crafts fairs could have children painting them, I just can't see a downside.

That is how I would fix the worlds problems anyway.

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MatildaIThink · 22/09/2021 20:33

@Alpinechalet

A single global hourly rate of pay. You work an hour and receive the same rate of pay. Who says x job is more valuable to society than y job. Why should people in some countries doing the same job get vastly higher hourly rates than those in other countries.
Skill, education, application.

I work in scientific research, I enjoy my job, but it is hard work, complicated and at times stressful, if I got the same for basic admin I would probably do basic admin.

My husband and brother have both created companies that employ people, why bother with the long hours, pressure and responsibility when they would only get the same money as someone stacking shelves?

If you want higher skilled, higher pressure jobs done then you pay more, you reward responsibility. It is utterly idiotic to think otherwise.

LukeEvansWife · 22/09/2021 20:37

A basic wage for all will be a guarantee of no healthcare, amongst other things.

Why would you train, do a life or death stressful job when someone unskilled will be paid the same?

And look how well communism has worked

washingmachines4 · 22/09/2021 21:01

I love The Good Life – always dreamed of that myself but it is hard, and not genuinely sustainable for most. I really recommend reading ‘The Utopia Experiment’ by Dylan Evans.
Religion needs to go in the bin – people connect over their values and what is important though so having a universal set of values for us all to connect with may be important.
1 real ideological change: scientific method. Not one person in a room going 'I think ... the following would be popular...'. Still can't believe the transcripts that with all the scientific data and taskforces to help with covid - ultimately Boris ignored it all and went 'I think...this is what we'll do' based on nothing that had been recommended by experts.
Fill the government with experts, commission universities for help with pretty much any subject
Identify problem - identify possible solutions, scientists, data modellers work through the solutions to find the best one. Move forward with decisive change - change needs to be provable to be the best one and peer reviewed. All with professional competent project and programme managers to bring it together.
The change would be competent people acting in the best way, the problem is to define best. If we counter climate change and the modelling data comes back that the best thing to do would be to wipe out the human race – we probably won’t end up doing that. We have to apply something like the basic European human rights standards at least as a base.
our pride makes us wedded to a strategy, if something doesn't work - change it. We could do that working within a scientific method

arield · 23/09/2021 08:35

@Stompythedinosaur

I'd have 100% tax after you own a certain (high) amount.

Ban private education and healthcare.

I'd give good consideration to licensing parenting.

100% tax? Why? Sounds like jealousy to me.
arield · 23/09/2021 08:37

@Guineapigbridge

Compulsory contraception for anyone aged under 21 - free contraception for all -and HARD enforcement and punishment of sexual abuse, porn, exploitation of children, exploitation of the poor and exploitation of animals.
Whatttt?

This thread is a fucking nightmare

arield · 23/09/2021 08:39

@Lockdownbear

If everyone gets the same amount regardless of what they earn, very communistic ideals. What's the point in people taking on management roles with extra pressure and stress, if it makes no difference to their income?
It's on top of. You receive UBI and can earn money
arield · 23/09/2021 08:40

@Alpinechalet

A single global hourly rate of pay. You work an hour and receive the same rate of pay. Who says x job is more valuable to society than y job. Why should people in some countries doing the same job get vastly higher hourly rates than those in other countries.
Supply and demand.

Do you really want your local estate agent earning the same as someone operating on children with brain cancer?

Really?

LukeEvansWife · 23/09/2021 09:06

I can't decide whether MN is communist or the bloody Gestapo.

Global rate of pay achieves nothing. Of course some jobs are more important to society than others: or do we do away with things like medicine?

Plus you are spectacularly missing a huge point - you pay everyone the same and some will make more money and some will be piss poor. So the same people who have benefitted from capitalism will still do so

Lockdownbear · 23/09/2021 09:48

Can those calling for UBI, clarify
Does everyone get the same?
Regardless of hours worked?
Qualifications, training etc?

And what is the difference between UBI and UC?

Envoitrevisage · 23/09/2021 10:01

I have no idea how to fix the world, which is one of many reasons why I don’t wax lyrical about what I think politicians should be doing.

Lockdownbear · 23/09/2021 10:13

While everyone getting the same money is bonkers and won't work.

What would help would be if Doctors earned the same in India as they do in the UK.
The same with seamstresses if the rate was the same the world over you'd get away from cheap disposable clothes made in cheap countries.

Which in turn would mean its no longer cheaper to cart stuff round the world to make use of cheap labour as they'd not be any cheap labour.

I know it's not that simple and trying to link economies is a nightmare. But it would certainly help if they're wasn't the opportunity to exploit cheap labour in poorer countries.

wherethereisonethereismany · 23/09/2021 10:23

I wouldn't know where to start to be honest. Every plan I could come up with there would be holes in that people could get through. To be honest I think the human race is fucked.

LastSummerHere · 23/09/2021 12:24

I think it is pretty obvious that men have made a complete bollocks of the world. Wherever women have a fair balance of authority and power, less children are in poverty, more women are in employment and there is better health care and lower mortality rates. So absolutely we NEED the education of girls and opportunities for women so EVERYONE benefits.

A world that operates under patriarchy will never succeed. You cannot stifle the potential of half the population and expect Shanghai-La.

I would also bring in a curfew for men around twice a week or so...just to try it out and see if any difference was made for the lives of women and girls. Just that sense of freedom and safety they may at last experience.

JaninaDuszejko · 23/09/2021 13:02

NO ONE needs a billion pounds

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation have given $1.75 billion to the fight against Covid (all to increase access to vaccines and treatments in poor countries). Quite glad they had so much money and were able to do this. It put pressure on governments to do similar.

Ostryga · 23/09/2021 13:03

Just kill all the men. It wouldn’t be perfect, but 99% of the world’s problems boils down to men. Sack them off and we’re golden(ish).

LukeEvansWife · 23/09/2021 13:17

@Ostryga

Just kill all the men. It wouldn’t be perfect, but 99% of the world’s problems boils down to men. Sack them off and we’re golden(ish).
That would in fact solve all the issues within a couple of generations. One question though - would you abort the boys, kill them when they are Young or wait til they are, say 16?
Annoyedanddissapointed · 23/09/2021 13:19

@Ostryga

Just kill all the men. It wouldn’t be perfect, but 99% of the world’s problems boils down to men. Sack them off and we’re golden(ish).
So no more humans. Tbh I don't think planet would mind😁 But... Then women would be responsible for 100% of the crime😱 What then
LukeEvansWife · 23/09/2021 13:21

But... Then women would be responsible for 100% of the crime😱 What then

Nah it's fine as women are never violent, we are all part of a nurturing sisterhood Hmm

Annoyedanddissapointed · 23/09/2021 13:28

@LukeEvansWife

But... Then women would be responsible for 100% of the crime😱 What then

Nah it's fine as women are never violent, we are all part of a nurturing sisterhood Hmm

Oh that's ok then 😁

I wondered how would we be splitting up women later into kill/not kill groups

notacooldad · 23/09/2021 14:08

I think this thread proves the world, well at least humans, can't be fixed!!

Ostryga · 23/09/2021 16:39

Oh we’d harvest their sperm first, and use IVF to only produce female babies.

Easy peasy! You only need one sperm to make a child. We’d have gallons of the stuff, it would last for fucking aaaaaages.

LukeEvansWife · 23/09/2021 16:42

@Ostryga

Oh we’d harvest their sperm first, and use IVF to only produce female babies.

Easy peasy! You only need one sperm to make a child. We’d have gallons of the stuff, it would last for fucking aaaaaages.

And when the inevitable happens, and the women-only society descends into chaos and fighting (because, ya know, it would), then what?
simitra · 23/09/2021 16:50

Find a way to share child bearing and child rearing equally. We are living in the 21st century and women still get the dirty end of the stick. While one half of humanity suffer in pain and degradation to bear the children of all humanity there will never be equality.

thelegohooverer · 23/09/2021 16:55

I’d pay everyone a basic living wage with access to housing and basic education as standard.

Some people will be intrinsically driven to work, some to create, some to care. They can earn more if they wish and live in nicer homes, but no one will go hungry or homeless on my watch.

Work will be rewarded - the more it contributes to the good of society the better. Carers for the vulnerable elderly and binmen will get paid well. Rappers and advertising executives somewhat less.

It would take time and cultural investment to unpick entrenched attitudes to work (especially in a country where a monarch in her 90s is judged by how much work she does, and unpaid carers of children are considered pariahs) but over time we might get to a place where we appreciate people for more than their financial worth.

And communal gardens. Definitely.

I’d be on for putting testosterone blockers in the drinking water but you’d have to reduce it worldwide or we’d be invaded by the nearest neighbours.

FrippEnos · 23/09/2021 17:05

barring a few responses, what an absolute despotic future some on here paint.

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