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MN Vote - will he pay up today?

119 replies

Sparklfairy · 19/09/2021 07:43

A few years ago I lent a friend a not insignificant amount of money. Hindsight is 20/20 and all that so the details are irrelevant. At the time he was grateful and making all the right noises about regular payments.

Gradually those 'payments' became £5/week, which most of the time never showed up Hmm I was left in the infuriating position of 'reminding' him and feeling petty over a fiver, or ignoring it and implying it was okay.

I realised that this was some weird power play on his part; he felt that the balance of power in our friendship had shifted in my favour and he didn't like that, so this was his way of wrestling it back by making me go to him for my own money Grin

I walked away from the friendship and although I felt stupid and angry, I did feel better for it. Recently he messaged out of the blue offering the money back (in one go) and apologising. We have been trying to arrange a meet up but both of us have been guilty of trying to cancel so I'm not blaming him for this part.

The thing is, rather than just transfer it, he's saying he wants to do it 'in person' i.e. hand over an envelope of cash 'because it feels more appropriate/respectful to our friendship/I can apologise properly/sincerely' blah blah. The reality is I suspect 1) he's tax dodging and doesn't use his bank, and 2) it's another power play, the big gesture of him being so magnanimous to return the money.

I'm happy to indulge his stupid power games if it gets me the lump sum, but we were due to meet yesterday and he bailed 30mins before we were due to meet, saying he was stuck at work may or may not be true. We've rearranged for this evening.

He doesn't know that if he bails again I'm walking away for good. I'd already written the money off, this feels like 'free money' now but I am not engaging in any more power plays.

So, sorry this is long but based on the above, how do you think today will go?

YABU - He'll turn up tonight and pay in full
YANBU - He'll bail or stand me up and I'll get nothing

Option C - he'll hand over some and then bleat about regular payments again trying to suck me into the power cycle again not happening

Or something else? Anyone saying 'walk away from the drama', I will, but I am really curious as to how this plays out today.

OP posts:
LadyEloise1 · 23/09/2021 18:10

I don't know why you are being so patient with someone who treats you like sh*t.
It would be small claims court for me or big burly friend.

MattHancocksSexTape · 29/09/2021 18:19

@Sparklfairy - 50p says he’s not been in touch again?

shrugshrug · 03/10/2021 10:14

@Sparklfairy
I've read your thread.
What a horrible "friend"
Did he pay up ?

Eralos · 03/10/2021 11:22

Did he pay?

ElsieMc · 03/10/2021 11:35

I am having this with a neighbour who has owed me a similar sum since late 2018. I have asked for it on numerous occasions and during August she said if I resubmitted the original invoice for works we agreed on she would pay. Guess what, I am still waiting.

Her dh also said he thought I had let them off! No, he just didn't want to pay.

I am going to send a final letter before action but I dont hold out much hope. Op, I think you have to send this before you apply to the courts and also offer mediation to show you are reasonable. It is clear you have been more than and you also have your texts showing his avoidance tactics.

I don't think you will ever get this back and even if you get a judgement, he still won't pay. I had a liability order against my gs's dad and he still didn't pay and bailiff's had to go round. They simply agreed a miniscule payment plan.

Sorry if this is negative op and I do hope you get it back. The person who owes me money is a local councillor as well!

WheresYourSnickers · 03/10/2021 11:46

I hope you're not still waiting @Sparklfairy, but definitely go via small claims court - you've nothing to lose now anyway, certainly not a friend!

Sparklfairy · 04/10/2021 10:10

Okay, well, slight update. Due to the fuel crisis I didn't go to mum's, but he did come over yesterday and gave me £300 cash with 'more to come' so I guess it was option C but even if I write it off as £300 it's still more than I had before Grin I'm happy for now.

OP posts:
WheresYourSnickers · 04/10/2021 13:57

300 is a lot more than you had before yesterday. To be honest, at this stage I'd write off the balance & never talk to him again.

Billybagpuss · 04/10/2021 14:05

Well that’s better than the fiver he was arsing about with to start with.

HappyDays101010 · 04/10/2021 14:17

That's a result! Would be tempted to block him now!

Sparklfairy · 04/10/2021 14:51

Well.

Proper update.

He transferred the rest to my account.

So he's paid up.

I may have fainted. Grin

OP posts:
BruceAndNosh · 04/10/2021 15:11

Result!
Let's hope he's not buttering you up to lend him a grand for Christmas!

shrugshrug · 04/10/2021 15:38

So glad for you @Sparklfairy
You have the patience of a saint.
Certainly a lot more than me Smile
My late aunt used to say "Everything comes to those who know how to wait"

ChargingBuck · 04/10/2021 15:53

Nice one Sparkl

Now you can send the strongly worded text of your choice, & fuck him off for good :)

Sparklfairy · 04/10/2021 18:25

From what he said i really wouldn't have got anywhere going to small claims. Dodgy as hell. Paid in cash and benefits dodging Confused I'm so pleased he paid but yes, will be distancing myself from now!

OP posts:
RandomMess · 04/10/2021 22:19

Hurrah!!!

What an unexpected turn of events.

KaycePollard · 04/10/2021 22:50

Wow! Congratulations - I'd been wondering what would happen (weird internet stalker ... Grin ) So pleased you have your dosh - I hope you can find something fun to spend it on.

NotImpossible · 04/10/2021 23:08

Glad you got the money. I wonder if HMRC would appreciate any information about his working habits / benefit claims...

(Yes, slightly evil maybe but I really dislike people who don't play by the rules.)

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