Page 27 | To think the royal family are a bloody embarrassment

MariaAngustias · 2021-09-12T08:53:28+00:00

Just that - why are we paying for this bunch when we could be spending the money on essential services? Let the Queen continue then after her just get rid of the whole bloody lot of them. We have and alleged paedo, a whinging multi millionaire in his 30's moaning constantly, an allegedly corrupt heir to the throne meeting dodgy russians for money....... just go, enough. Seriously - this is all Jeremy Kyle for poshos.

Threewheeler1 · 14/09/2021 16:01

Yes. Get rid.
Can't stand the deference they are given, and for what? So many people have so little. And the royals are like overfed, bloated parasites. These people are supposed to be our superiors because they were born 'extra special'. How does that idea even work in a democratic society? Not seeing any evidence of the fact that tourism revenues are generated by the actual people themselves, rather than the places and royal palaces.
People always bring up the Trump argument when they talk about heads of State but at least we could vote a dud out rather than watching them live the life of riley, dodge laws they don't like and demand special treatment.
OP yanbu.

ancientgran · 14/09/2021 16:04

If we are going to reclaim stuff off the royals can we reclaim some other things? I'd vote for reclaiming the slave reparations from rich families. I'm nearly 70 and for most of my working life my taxes were going to repay these loans, even more annoying for my husband as he was paying all of his working life and he's descended from slaves. Maybe it would help with funding the NHS/Care instead of NI going up, or it could fund the £20 for UC.

Not sure what else we could reclaim.

HarrisonStickle · 14/09/2021 16:12

@herecomesthsun

They went to see the family, had the children playing with their grandchildren, organised days out, sent presents to the HCPs, it did sound a bit over and above.

If I had a personal piper I may well do the same.

Still not sure why you have sympathy for her.

HarrisonStickle · 14/09/2021 16:15

Frankly I think it would be ridiculous to crown a King of that age or even much older in reality, just so he ‘gets a go’.

But that's how the monarchy thing works! We've just been lucky to have a woman doing it for 70 odd years who knows (more or less) how to keep her nose clean.

StoneofDestiny · 14/09/2021 16:27

A few years ago I was involved in a visit by a very minor Royal who still occasionally appears on the balcony - lots of work in preparation and no one I spoke to felt buoyed or encouraged by the visit, most felt it a waste of time

Knowing someone who regularly prepares for visiting major royal - the thinking is the same - snore fest, but the fact it also disrupts other important proper work, involves unnecessary paint jobs etc to 'just in case' areas they never visit and costs a fortune on nonsense like red carpets, flowers etc. The preparation beforehand is extensive and expensive, checking security, state of roads, meetings about what this royal will tolerate - serious oddball peculiarities. A huge strain on public purse for what can be minutes of a visit.

Then we moan about increases in NI, state of LA housing, state of our roads, state of NHS, state of schools etc etc

CathyorClaire · 14/09/2021 16:30

The coronation would cost many Millions so let’s ‘invest’ that in a younger King

Even better not to 'invest' in one at all.

Passing the crown to William with Kate as his consort would give the country the opportunity of a younger Monarch, which may capture the imagination of the younger population who seem to be the ones most disillusioned with the Royal Family. Slim the ‘working royals’ right down to include Princess Anne and possible Prince Edward

Wills is pushing forty already, Anne's only a couple of years younger than Charles and Edward is closer to sixty than fifty.

Charles will never stand aside but what makes you think this set-up would be more popular with the younger population if he did?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/09/2021 16:57

If she lives to 101 like her Mother, Charles will be nearly 80

Even more reason to stick with "God save the Queen" ... as also said I'll be amazed if Charles makes it past 80, and it could well be that her last duty was to save us from having him as King

StoneofDestiny · 14/09/2021 16:59

Passing the crown to....................You see that's what is wrong. Why not pass it to me? Or you?

Better idea - why not pass it to people like this; - I have some impressive friends who've worked in public service all their lives for limited reward. Their commitment is so deep they now volunteer at homeless shelters, medical rehab centres and with the Red Cross. They have character and commitment that is proven as it's not done for fame, fortune, multiple mansions, a battery of cooks, nannies, butlers, cleaners, dressers, publicists etc etc. Their 'holiday' last year was to a war ravaged area that has an AIDS crisis - they had no security to support them and - they paid their own fare there.

I'd love to see any member of the royal family do a quarter of what they do - real public servant, great ambassadors for the UK and no personal benefit to them.

Stop passing on a free 'pass' to wealth, privilege and jobs for life to people who think they are entitled to it by birth or marriage. There are thousands of genuine public servants out there. These royals are not - public service never earns those trappings of wealth in real life.

StoneofDestiny · 14/09/2021 17:03

The coronation would cost many Millions so let’s ‘invest’ that in a younger King

It's not an investment by any real definition of the work. It's a complete waste of public money. Millions thrown at this nonsense than to the appointment of our elected head of government. It's a jewel encrusted Pantomine.
Let remember we are in the 21 Century

Blossomtoes · 14/09/2021 17:20

I wonder what the cost benefits of a coronation would be? Income from selling the broadcasting rights world wide, the tax from a massive hike in the price of every hotel room in London and all the memorabilia sold. I doubt it would be insignificant.

ponyexpress22 · 14/09/2021 17:42

There probably wouldn't be any money made from a coronation if you put it against the lack of revenue from lost working days.. But it's the ongoing costs that are concerning. Paying for the royals is like a bottomless pit. There's so many of them too.

GeorgieFlame · 14/09/2021 17:55

I think Charles is an embarrassment rubbing shoulders with that creature, Saville. Guilty by association

aquashiv · 14/09/2021 18:30

How do you get rid of a royal family. Beheading or sending them into excile seems rather extreme. The knobs that run the country would never entertain it...Wed have squewed opinion poles telling us they make our country great....

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/09/2021 18:30

I think Charles is an embarrassment rubbing shoulders with that creature, Saville

As I've just pointed out on another thread, there's Mountbatten, Laurens van der Post and most of all Peter Ball too, and they're just the ones we know about

Just what it is about our princes and their fascination with sex offenders? And how does it fit with Charles supposedly being a caring, sensitive, decent man and future monarch?

Farfalle88 · 14/09/2021 18:38

@Puzzledandpissedoff

I think Charles is an embarrassment rubbing shoulders with that creature, Saville

As I've just pointed out on another thread, there's Mountbatten, Laurens van der Post and most of all Peter Ball too, and they're just the ones we know about

Just what it is about our princes and their fascination with sex offenders? And how does it fit with Charles supposedly being a caring, sensitive, decent man and future monarch?

Good question.

PicsInRed · 14/09/2021 18:45

@aquashiv

How do you get rid of a royal family. Beheading or sending them into excile seems rather extreme. The knobs that run the country would never entertain it...Wed have squewed opinion poles telling us they make our country great....

I believe Boris would write to Charles on behalf of the taypayer, advising that a planned restructure is proposed which may put his job at risk of redundancy, outlining the consultation process, and any redeployment opportunities available within the firm.

Poetrypatty · 14/09/2021 18:46

Passing the crown to William with Kate as his consort would give the country the opportunity of a younger Monarch, which may capture the imagination of the younger population who seem to be the ones most disillusioned with the Royal Family

In many if not most cases, young people have no hope of buying a home in their own lifetime, let alone having a selection of mansions and 3 kids in private schools. I really don't think that people are as deferential as they used to be or that William and Kate will be popular unless they really modernise like the European Royals and give away significant amounts of their assets. Which looks highly unlikely given how they currently behave e.g. wearing a new designer coat for each occasion.

Livingtothefull · 14/09/2021 18:51

Just a reminder that there is a precedent for a royal refusing to cooperate with an investigation into sex offences:

www.newidea.com.au/prince-charles-refuses-to-give-evidence-in-sex-abuse-inquiry

Any decent (and innocent) person would be falling over themselves to help victims in achieving justice. I don't want to believe they are not decent....but the facts are speaking for themselves.

CathyorClaire · 14/09/2021 20:40

Just a reminder that there is a precedent for a royal refusing to cooperate with an investigation into sex offences

Charles has batted his eye lashes in horror when his acquaintances' misdeeds come to light so often it's amazing they haven't fallen off.

StoneofDestiny · 14/09/2021 21:04

I think Charles is an embarrassment rubbing shoulders with that creature, Saville
As I've just pointed out on another thread, there's Mountbatten, Laurens van der Post and most of all Peter Ball too, and they're just the ones we know about

He's still got a bust of Van der Post in the garden at Highgrove and it's cheerfully pointed out to visitors!

Farfalle88 · 15/09/2021 00:09

@Puzzledandpissedoff

If she lives to 101 like her Mother, Charles will be nearly 80

Even more reason to stick with "God save the Queen" ... as also said I'll be amazed if Charles makes it past 80, and it could well be that her last duty was to save us from having him as King

This made me chuckle!

OhGiveUp · 15/09/2021 00:34

@Aquashiv We could always do it the Sue Townsend way (her hilarious boom, The Queen and I ) and put them in council houses on benefits.
The only difference would be the change of address from Pall Mall to Hell Close.

OhGiveUp · 15/09/2021 00:35

Book, not boom!

Brefugee · 15/09/2021 07:20

The coronation would cost many Millions so let’s ‘invest’ that in a younger King.
I would think more of Charles if he passed the Crown on to William, but I can’t imagine for a moment he would. With the behaviour of him and Camilla in the past I have no interest in them being crowned.

As has been repeatedly pointed out in this thread and elsewhere - if you want a monarch you have to accept the fact of (currently male) primorgeniture and that's your lot.

Her Maj won't abdicate, which would be sensible for so many reasons and she should have done it at 65, because she honestly believes God made her queen. From what I've read about Charles he feels the same. Abdication not an option because that would be going against god's wishes. It is flipping ridiculous.

At least in The Netherlands the last 2 queens have abdicated at retirement age and passed the crown (of a slimmed down modern monarchy) to the next generation. There is no reason to think the current king won't do the same. A Dutch style monarchy would do for me for one monarch to prepare for a republic. But I am now at the point where if it doesn't end with the current monarch, and they won't go quietly, we have to push. Hard.

HarrisonStickle · 15/09/2021 09:31

Her Maj won't abdicate, which would be sensible for so many reasons and she should have done it at 65, because she honestly believes God made her queen. From what I've read about Charles he feels the same. Abdication not an option because that would be going against god's wishes. It is flipping ridiculous.

Other folk should try this if their employer tries to make them redundant. It would make them sound utterly barking, yet we're supposed to respect these people.

William and Kate need to get out there and get jobs. She in particular has barely done a day's work in her life. At least he's done a bit in the past.