To think the royal family are a bloody embarrassment

[MariaAngustias]

Just that - why are we paying for this bunch when we could be spending the money on essential services? Let the Queen continue then after her just get rid of the whole bloody lot of them. We have and alleged paedo, a whinging multi millionaire in his 30's moaning constantly, an allegedly corrupt heir to the throne meeting dodgy russians for money....... just go, enough. Seriously - this is all Jeremy Kyle for poshos.

It’s the sheer obscene extravagance, and greed that gets me. Charles and his mistress/wife, have use of 7/8 castles, mansions and stately homes that we know about. He travels with his own furniture and staff between these various residences living a lifestyle of privilege and excess.

I don’t want this man , and what he represents, to represent me.

@Sloth66

It’s the sheer obscene extravagance, and greed that gets me. Charles and his mistress/wife, have use of 7/8 castles, mansions and stately homes that we know about. He travels with his own furniture and staff between these various residences living a lifestyle of privilege and excess.

I don’t want this man , and what he represents, to represent me.

Well said!

@Blossomtoes

We’re all out for ourselves at the end of the day. Why would we expect the RF to be any different?

If we go along with your assumption for a moment, why all the cap-doffing and public funding of the RF, so? If they’re just like everyone else, why give them birthright privileges other people don’t have?

@Sloth66

It’s the sheer obscene extravagance, and greed that gets me. Charles and his mistress/wife, have use of 7/8 castles, mansions and stately homes that we know about. He travels with his own furniture and staff between these various residences living a lifestyle of privilege and excess.

I don’t want this man , and what he represents, to represent me.

Don't forget that Charles takes along his own chef to cook his Duchy-farmed organic food for him. Couldn't possibly have a Prince of the Realm eating nasty common food.

He doesn’t look very well on it. He’s very red in the face. Very swollen hands . He looks unwell and quite stooped.

Farfalle88 I thought that a while ago - I wondered if he might have Long Covid.

Charles has aged very badly for a man of such privilege.

He looks years older than he is.

Do people even wear caps, let alone doff them? Bowing and curtsying is optional now, I understand and, in any case it’s like saluting in the armed forces - to recognise the rank, not the person.

@SquirryTheSquirrel

Farfalle88 I thought that a while ago - I wondered if he might have Long Covid.

I saw him a few years ago at an event. He looked old and unwell then.

@Sloth66

It’s the sheer obscene extravagance, and greed that gets me. Charles and his mistress/wife, have use of 7/8 castles, mansions and stately homes that we know about. He travels with his own furniture and staff between these various residences living a lifestyle of privilege and excess.

I don’t want this man , and what he represents, to represent me.

But the tons of rich people of people live with massive multiple houses. The Beckhams have a massive LA mansion, That huge Bechkingham Paiace , one in the Cotswolds, several properties in London, Dubai, Europe… At least the Queen is looking after history and working for the benefit of the nation. Why is that considered to be less work than a football career. Supporting the monarchy is pennies over year. Football ticket is hundreds. Beckham kids don’t even have to work given they’ll inherit the lot. I’d rather have Charles and Edward who feel duty bound than a load of kids exploiting their parents talents making a buck.

@Blossomtoes

Do people even wear caps, let alone doff them? Bowing and curtsying is optional now, I understand and, in any case it’s like saluting in the armed forces - to recognise the rank, not the person.

But you’re buying into the whole nonsense by acceding to its continuance, even if you’re not one of the (almost invariably poor) people who camp out over night on royal wedding routes to wave little flags at people who’ve benefited from unimaginable privilege.

You’re even, depressingly, a ‘subject’.

I know I’m a subject. It’s only a word. 🤷‍♀️

You’re even, depressingly, a ‘subject’

Not since 1983 for most of us ... it's complicated, but there's a bit about it here:

www.whatpassport.com/countries/United-Kingdom/Passport_and_Nationality/Citizen_of_the_UK_and_Colonies_Passport_(CUKC)

@Echobelly

What's mostly embarrassing is that presumably the rest of the world thinks Brits all love and go on about the royals when most are totally indifferent.

God no. The rest of the world is watching the show while munching on popcorn. It's very entertaining.

Although the queen herself is well respected.

I think he was forced to work part time because he still had functions to perform as a Royal. He didn’t want to give up his job, he was needed to step up to take the load off other members of the family and get in training for his eventual fate as King.
He probably hates the constrictions of his life but has no choice

He wasn't forced to work part time, he chose to. He preferred to be a stay at home(s) dad with his stay at home wife. No reduction in his lifestyle!
He isn't even the heir to the throne - his dad is. Ridiculous he would give up work for a job he isn't expected to have til after his dad! His dad is 72 and still hasn't had a job outside the home.
He has a choice - of course he has. He isn't in shackles - he said so after his brother suggested he was!

Charles is the heir apparent. Wills is the heir presumptive. So he is an heir, if not The Heir.

And any pretence of him doing a 'real' job, personal security in tow, would be an expensive taxpayer-funded performative act.

@Jaysmith71

Charles is the heir apparent. Wills is the heir presumptive. So he is an heir, if not The Heir.

And any pretence of him doing a 'real' job, personal security in tow, would be an expensive taxpayer-funded performative act.

That's not true. There is only one heir, and that's Charles. William is simply his eldest son.

The queen was 'heir presumptive' until the day she became queen. That's because, theoretically, her parents could still have had a son who would have outranked her. That's not a risk for Charles, so he is heir apparent.

Charles is the heir apparent. Wills is the heir presumptive

Is Wills heir presumptive? The 'presumptive' bit (I thought) meant there is a possibility someone could go in front of him. E.g. if Charles had become King before William had children, William would have been heir apparent and Harry heir presumptive (because the possibility always existed that William would have children, bumping Harry down the line, even before it happened).

Queen Elizabeth was only ever heir presumptive because of the possibility George VI could have had a son, who would (as the rules went then) have preceded her in the succession.

There's no possibility William can lose his place in the line of succession, as even in the theoretically possible event that Charles had more children, they would not precede his first born son.

By my reckoning, the heir presumptive would currently be Princess Charlotte, as she's the first one in line whose place could be bumped downwards (as it will be if/when Prince George has his first child).

I'm happy to be corrected in this theory, though.

x-post with IcedPurple.

Reluctantly agree, I love the queen but now Prince Andrew is refusing to even acknowledge that he has received the court papers is appalling. The queen is supposed to represent the country but her protection of Andrew has to me proves that she thinks he is above the law.

Dry your eyes you clown

I think he was forced to work part time because he still had functions to perform as a Royal. He didn’t want to give up his job, he was needed to step up to take the load off other members of the family

A quick look at the court circular and its acres of empty days between 'engagements' (which might be just a phone or video call) will tell you all you need to know about the 'load' Workshy Wills has taken on.

@Farfalle88

He doesn’t look very well on it. He’s very red in the face. Very swollen hands . He looks unwell and quite stooped.

With those bloated features he looks very like a man in the advanced stages of alcoholism.

Alex Ferguson had the same look.

And any pretence of him doing a 'real' job, personal security in tow, would be an expensive taxpayer-funded performative act

So, we have to put up with centuries more of the idle rich and their endless children living of the hard work and taxes of the rest of us?

The Queen has 4 unemployed adult children who had or have 4 unemployed partners, 8 Grandchildren and 11 Great Grandchildren - imagine how many kids they will all produce?

If it became the norm that they worked, there would be less attention on them. Other royal families manage it in other countries.

They are costing us a fortune in security just for them to turn up with their entourage for a short moment to 'see the people'. It's costs us a fortune for the. To traipse between their homes for the different seasons, for the shoots, horse riding, carriage riding, polo....not to forget Andrew 'airmiles' to play golf via a helicopter flight! Funny how they never curtail their hobbies, just the chance of proper work.

I think all the attention - and thanks to the modern media unpleasant attention - is partly due to the rest of the celeb world being stuck at home due to covid.
I've never known this much stuff about the RF. I suppose The Crown and various Diana tv progs have added to it.
Normally there would be endless celeb weddings and babies, divorces etc etc
The Daily Mail headlines are jabs for children and Andrew Neil retiring - what's happened to the scandal - there doesn't seem to be much.