Covid vaccines for healthy 12-15 year olds

[Nootkah]

So it looks likely the roll out of vaccines for healthy 12-15 year olds will be agreed next week. I'm consenting, and my teen wants it.

What about you?

YABNU - Yes, Im co senting too
YABU - Nope

Ds1 (aged 15) and Ds2 (aged 13) will both be having it.

I support it and Dd will be having it. She’s at a slightly higher risk from covid due to asthma, and for me it outweighs the risk of myocarditis.

If the risk for boys is so much higher than for girls, why aren’t they considering each group separately rather than lumping them together? Could be approved for girls first.

No, my 12 year old will not be having it- not yet anyway. I am fully vaxxed.
It’s not only the sort term side effects but the unknown long term effects that bother me. For a virus that is incredibly small risk to him.
If even one non CEV 12-15 year old teen dies and it’s deemed as a result of the vaccine the government have blood on their hands.
It’s not been reccommended by the JCVI for a reason!

@Getawaywithit

Ds 15 is already eligible (severe learning disability) but is still waiting for his

Mine is on the new 12-15 priority list and there seems to be nothing at all out there as to what the timescales might be. I do think, however, if they agree all 12-15 year olds, they will just roll it into schools which will likely be quicker than waiting for the GPs to manage it.

The thing is with the 12-15 vulnerable list they are eligible to have 2 doses 8 weeks apart. I am am still waiting to know how they will have it as you can't book online or go to walk in and GP has stopped doing them as supply is with vaccine centres. The wider 12-15 year olds would be eligible for one dose I believe.

DS14 and DD12 will be having it. I only wish their younger sibling could.

I can't wait until my 10 year old is eligible. Bring it on.

Honestly, I think anyone who would give the vaccine to otherwise healthy children are insane. The risk of serious complications and death from covid in children is miniscule, we have completely lost the plot - if the government approve this against scientific evidence then they will have blood on their hands if even one child dies as a result of the vaccine.

How many cases of myocarditis require hospitalization?

I think it’s good for people to have a choice (and ideally it should be joint between parent and teen). Pregnant women had a choice and had support from midwives and gps to discuss this. Both having the vaccine and not having it can be reasonable.

No, my 13 year old will not be having it for now , may re think in the future ,tested positive earlier in the year -mild symptoms for 1 week, fully recovered.
Both me and her father double vacc.
Have put loads of thought into this and have concluded we are not prepared to take a risk however small at the moment .

I'm afraid I'm going with the even more cynical "If we want to travel we'll need the vaccine" so my 12yo and 15yo will be getting it.

@GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing I agree with you. DD is only 9 but I would have her vaccinated if she could be. I’m just don’t think I’m prepared to accept the higher side effect risk with my son. It maybe more research comes out which reassures me, but for now, I think we will be a no thank you.

@Willyoujustbequiet

No. We have family history of sudden onset thrombocytopenia ( the clotting condition that has caused the deaths) and I had a horrendous reaction to AZ. On balance the vaccine is more of a risk given what I know so far.

Not to alarm you but catching covid is a far, far bigger risk for this. You should speak to a specialist.

My 14 yr old really wants it. I wish they'd make their minds up

From the same article as linked, ' evidence from studies show it is unlikely for boys to suffer either heart problems from the vaccine or be hospitalised by Covid."

The problem is that young males were identified as asymptomatic spreaders in Israel and in other research. Covid is a risk to everyone, not the physical getting of it, but the effect in wider society. Anyone can be diagnosed with cancer, have a serious accident and if our health systems are overwhelmed, including the ambulance service,then everyone is at risk. I've read of people from teenage dying while waiting for an ambulance. Likewise the restrictions in education etc. That's aside from possible mutations.

@HeyDugeesCakeBadge

Honestly, I think anyone who would give the vaccine to otherwise healthy children are insane. The risk of serious complications and death from covid in children is miniscule, we have completely lost the plot - if the government approve this against scientific evidence then they will have blood on their hands if even one child dies as a result of the vaccine.

Didn't your healthy babies have any of their childhood vaccines? As the JCVI is passing the decision onto the actual decision makers probably this week (JCVI is only an advisory think tank remember- doesn't make any clinical decisions) and the UK is again going it alone with its eclectic Covid policies yet almost always follows the rest of the western world a couple of weeks down the line, I think we can prepare for all over 12s to be offered the jab pretty soon.

Yes they did have all their vaccines but these have been tested over many many years and to prevent serious illnesses in childhood. Covid has minimal impact on children so why on earth would I risk my children's health for a vaccine that has no long term data at all for an illness that doesn't impact them.

@GeneMachine

You're ignoring the fact that the 'vaccines' are in experimental stage, and that they tamper with the child's genes. There's no telling what complications may arise in five years time. Why disregard the 99.8% survival rate? Once in, you'll never get it out. The 'vaccine' doesn't prevent infection, re-infection or transmission. Madness to use your child as a guineapig when they are not at risk. The average age for UK covid deaths is 83 years, I believe

Could you provide a link please showing that?

[quote GeneMachine]The average of age of those dying from covid is 83: www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/averageageofthosewhohaddiedwithcovid19[/quote]
True.
How did all those dead old people catch it?
Clue: it wasn't, largely, from vaccinated people.

Everyone who is able should be getting them.

www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-mrna-gene-idUSL1N2PH16N
There's a quick fact check about the gene bollocks.

[quote GeneMachine]86% of Children suffered an Adverse Reaction to the Pfizer Covid Vaccine in Clinical Trial
rightsfreedoms.wordpress.com/2021/06/02/86-of-children-suffered-an-adverse-reaction-to-the-pfizer-covid-vaccine-in-clinical-trial/[/quote]
That's a conspiracy theory blog.
Is there a scientific paper about this?

Though in fairness it talks about a bit of a temperature after the vaccine. So same as for any other one.