To ask how people will cope with Universal credit cut.

[ponyexpress22]

Surely they aren't going ahead with cutting it by £20 a week? I'm shocked that the government could stoop this low. What the hell are they doing.

@Cinderss

Ah, I see the race to the bottom has begun.

Those on legacy benefits were welcome to switch to UC at any point, in fact they’ve been encouraged to do so.

Those earning too much to qualify for benefits, I wish it wasn’t such a bitter feeling. I hate that our circumstances the last year have got so bad that we’ve had to claim. I hope the bitterness doesn’t leave too much of a bad taste.

I wasn't allowed to switch yet while on carers. New claims only.

@Readerimarried to you too. I hope you're in a better place now.

I'm actually crying remembering how awful that time was. I used to go to bed at 8 with the dc because it meant I wasn't using electric/heating and i could forget that I was hungry.
They look back on it with fond memories of all the fun we had together.

I get UC.

I shall manage the same way I managed before.

I have enough to pay my bills and eat without using foodbanks.

I find the fetishisation of people on benefits, reducing us all to virtual scavengers just so that Mumsnetters can virtue-signal their compassion, quite repulsive.

Most of us are adults capable of budgeting & get by that way. It’s not easy but life isn’t.

What did they do before Covid? All freeze and starve?

Um... yeah. People have died due to benefit cuts.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56819727

Careers haven’t been given extra help, tax credits working tax credits didn’t even get half of what UC did and they are all people working to like those like to point out a lot of UC claimants are. Wages haven’t gone up for people on UC or not on UC.

And that is the fault of people on UC is it?

@vivainsomnia

Yes, they were probably attending food banks. They will probably need to again. They will possibly not put their heating on when they are cold And the majority managed fine, didn't need food banks and kept their house warm. There is no reason for them to continue to receive more. We all have to face an increase in NI, we can't afford for everyone on NI to receive £20 a week more on-goingly.

Indeed, use the money to support the genuine vulnerable. No issue with that, but others will rightly need to go back to how it was before. It's not a cut, it's not news, it was always going to be the case, but entitled people will always want more.

You have absolutely no idea. No idea at all. I’m embarrassed for you.

@TrueCrimeWave

I get UC.

I shall manage the same way I managed before.

I have enough to pay my bills and eat without using foodbanks.

I find the fetishisation of people on benefits, reducing us all to virtual scavengers just so that Mumsnetters can virtue-signal their compassion, quite repulsive.

Most of us are adults capable of budgeting & get by that way. It’s not easy but life isn’t.

To be fair if you have low rent you maybe able manage ok. But if you don’t have social housing and rent is way above 30% limit that housing element will pay (only pay up to 30% of mean rents in your area) you could easier be having fine hundreds extra a month to make up the shortfall.

And yet people still vote Tory!

As usual the poorest and most vulnerable will suffer

@vivainsomnia

Yeah, right on! Fuck all those entitled fuckers expecting luxuries like food and heating. What did they do before Covid? All freeze and starve? We are getting back to normality, there is no reasoning for continuing funding something that was specific to coping with Covid.

Put the money is supporting social care, schools, healthcare.

Yep. roughly 2.5 million people used food banks over the last year.

Roughly 14.5 million people were in poverty before the pandemic, thats about 1 in 5 people.

On average we pay MPs expenses of £6903 a year.
A single claiment over 25 on UC can get £325 a month, thats £3900 a year.

How about we stop paying expenses ontop of their wages and put that into social care, schools, healthcare

@TrueCrimeWave

I get UC.

I shall manage the same way I managed before.

I have enough to pay my bills and eat without using foodbanks.

I find the fetishisation of people on benefits, reducing us all to virtual scavengers just so that Mumsnetters can virtue-signal their compassion, quite repulsive.

Most of us are adults capable of budgeting & get by that way. It’s not easy but life isn’t.

Oh, well if you can do it, everyone must be able too! There’s obviously no difference in people’s rent amounts, living costs that can’t be cut, emergencies that require spending...

Think a bit.

No but when those who did get the extra help want to them moan that the uplift that was only ever for a short while is going maybe they could also think of those who where on there arses but didn’t get any extra help and have managed to get though increased prices and issues.

No but when those who did get the extra help want to them moan that the uplift that was only ever for a short while is going maybe they could also think of those who where on there arses but didn’t get any extra help and have managed to get though increased prices and issues.

I don't know which is worse here, the irony or the hypocrisy.

Have you missed the multiple posters saying the price of food, electricity and gas have gone up? People were in trouble before they had the extra £20 a week, the price rises and the rise in National Insurance payments
And many families will have to cope without being entitled to UC, being just above the threshold. Continuing with the increase would see these families worse off yet not be entitled.

We all are going to tighten our belts. We always knew this would be the case. We all are going to cope to recover. Families will have to make difference choices.

This is why temporary help is avoided by governments because it’s so hard to reverse. No good deed goes unpunished.

DH is on legacy (health) benefits. No uplift for him, but the same covid constraints.

@Horst

No but when those who did get the extra help want to them moan that the uplift that was only ever for a short while is going maybe they could also think of those who where on there arses but didn’t get any extra help and have managed to get though increased prices and issues.

Yes, because one section of the poor blaming another section of the poor is the intelligent thing to do, isn’t it? Just think for five minutes.

Money being taken away from anyone is never going to feel good, but this was only ever supposed to be temporary.

It would be nice if people in this country could just for once be thankful that we have a benefit system and a safety net and be grateful for the fact that during the pandemic they were given an extra £20 every week for nothing.

It would be nice if people in this country could just for once be thankful that we have a benefit system and a safety net and be grateful for the fact that during the pandemic they were given an extra £20 every week for nothing.

It's a shame that you can't can't eat gratitude or use it to heat your house or clothe your children.

It’s absolutely disgusting I work with complex needs children aged 18/24 they are expected to live on £260 a month it’s a joke most are in supported housing which they have to contribute to £40 a month and before anyone says they can get a job well actually they can’t most of them are completely fucked and even if they’re not they can’t get a job as their rent is too high - it’s an absolute cluster fuck I have children every day crying threatening suicide prostitution dealing drugs through county lines it’s a joke

We all are going to tighten our belts. We always knew this would be the case. We all are going to cope to recover. Families will have to make difference choices.

But this is bollocks though. The wealthy will still buy privilege, avoid paying their fair share, and not even think of tightening their belts. That’s who represent us in Government.

@ponyexpress22

Boris said he wants to concentrate on people who are working, but nearly half of all claimants are working.

You are being unreasonable assuming anything other than the very worst of this government.

We all are going to tighten our belts. We always knew this would be the case. We all are going to cope to recover. Families will have to make difference choices

What about people whose belt is already on its last notch? Or who don't even have a belt let alone one that can be tightened? What choices should they make that are different?

@vivainsomnia

They said from the beginning that it would be a temporary uplift. They meant it. This! This £20 a week as not something they did because they thought UC was too low but because of an assumption that most would face difficulties during covid. It was always made very clear.

Yet here we go. Instead of being grateful for it for that long of a time, many who didn't see any additional costs during that period, some even found themselves better off, but no, some people still want want want and of course took that extra for granted and are now moaning because it ends.

Some people are just so entitled by nature and never satisfied. It's quite depressing really.

What I find depressing is the bitterness and jealousy on this thread and the absolute lack of awareness or compassion for how many people, including the vulnerable, are going to struggle.

Some of the comments make it abundantly obvious why we have the government we've got.

Sometimes people make me sick.

We all are going to tighten our belts. We always knew this would be the case. We all are going to cope to recover. Families will have to make difference choices.

I suppose I could sell my son, I am sure its only a matter of time before workhouses come back into force. He is a good strong lad.

@NailsNeedDoing

Money being taken away from anyone is never going to feel good, but this was only ever supposed to be temporary.

It would be nice if people in this country could just for once be thankful that we have a benefit system and a safety net and be grateful for the fact that during the pandemic they were given an extra £20 every week for nothing.

A decent welfare system is a basic tenet of a civilised society. Gratitude shouldn’t come into it.

What I find depressing is the bitterness and jealousy on this thread and the absolute lack of awareness or compassion for how many people, including the vulnerable, are going to struggle.

Some of the comments make it abundantly obvious why we have the government we've got.

Sometimes people make me sick.

Well, exactly. Some people actually seem to get a sexual thrill to think that someone else below them in society is getting a bit of a kicking. Plenty of evidence of this in the thread.