Aibu to be really cross about this breakfast club situation?

[Henni19]

My 3yo started at the school nursery on Thursday, his 5yo brother went into y1.
On Friday I put them into breakfast club as I had work.
School are still operating bubbles and all other restrictions (i am annoyed about this, although from a thread I posted the other day many disagreed with me).
Anyway it turns out my 3yo is the only child in the nursery bubble in breakfast club so they made him sit at a table on his own for the whole hour, while his brother sat the other side of the hall with his friends.
My eldest saw him crying asking for me and asked if he could sit with him but was told he wasn't allowed.
Only 2 staff work there and they both greeted us so no confusion over them being brothers, sounds like just taking the bubble rule to the extreme.
I cant work out if I am more devastated or bloody fuming about it.
Aibu to send an email to school asking them to use some common sense?
2 days in and 3yo already doesn't want to go back ☹

Nanny and john, I don’t know anyone who has got in trouble for other people getting covid

This is the type of thing that happens in nanny’s fantasies. Not real life.

Why is the school even still operating bubbles?

So you've been arguing with people on the thread because you misread the op?

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@Theworldishard We are not "ganging up" on you at all,we are, however, wondering how a person so cold and unfeeling has reached adulthood and cannot empathize with a little three year old in distress. I feel sorry that you have no insight in child development and early education. You are like a hollow chocolate bunny

I'm sorry for offending everyone by explaining how a school works.

Maybe how you're school works, but definitely not most of them. It's not what's in the government guidance and not what most schools are doing.

I also found your post about parents raising their concerns with the school quite unpleasant. I don't think that was a misunderstanding of 'tone'.

Anyway, I'm not offended and I definitely don't want you to feel ganged up on. Equally I don't want anyone who reads your posts to think your description of school os reflective of other schools.

[quote EKGEMS]@Theworldishard We are not "ganging up" on you at all,we are, however, wondering how a person so cold and unfeeling has reached adulthood and cannot empathize with a little three year old in distress. I feel sorry that you have no insight in child development and early education. You are like a hollow chocolate bunny [/quote]
How do you know I'm cold and unfeeling?
Would you tell a nurse/Dr that isn't allowed to let relatives to see their dying ones cold and heartless? Genuinely curious.

When our schools breakfast club first opened again the children sat in class bubbles or sibling groups. Can't see why they couldn't do the same here.

@Jumpjumpjumper

Thank fuck you don't run the wrap around care at my school, Theworldishard.

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“Yes in our school there was two of us watching the whole school at lunchtime, over 150 children.”

What, in a primary school with kids as little as four, while they were eating inside and playing outside just two members of staff were on duty?! One in and one out? What happened if a child hurt themselves? What about those with SEN? If this happened as anything more than an absolutely exceptional one off I would expect you as school staff with a duty of care to report such unsafe practices not just shrug. No you don’t make the rules but to just state that a sobbing three year old on just his second day of school being left completely alone for an hour isn’t the worst thing that could have happened is pretty heartless. I bet it felt that way to him poor kid.

you are in fact just as bad as how yoy consider myself to be.

Of course you’re school staff.

I think the school isn't the right place for a three year old. I think in nursery they have a key person attached to them. I think at school they'll be in positions like this possibly left with non-teachers in a breakfast club where maybe it isn't as clear to them why a three year old absolutely shouldn't be forced to sit alone at a table while an 8 year old might be able to bear it although still annoyed I'm sure.

A doctor not allowing family members in is (apparently) a matter of life and death so. Whatever.

A 3 year old crying alone because he can't mix with others, when there are no longer meant to be these restrictions, is insanity.

That is fucking ridiculous. To leave a little boy crying? These people should not be working with children.

That was to theworldishard

That’s heartbreaking, I would complain!

Actually, @Theworldishard, I've had to enforce covid quarantine with my patient's families and it was horrible. This isn't about me because reading how a poor little 3-year old was crying in forced segregation from his classmates and brother made me feel sad yet your response was "Lots of children cry it isn't child abuse" that is why I wrote that and all your further posts were unfeeling

@Plumtree391

You're not unreasonable but why does it take a whole hour for a child to eat breakfast? I'm quite shocked that no members of staff attended to a crying little child and I would say that. It's ridiculous that his brother wasn't allowed to sit with him.

However I think breakfast club on second day at nursery school for a three year old is a bit much, frankly. Small children have to be eased into things. What's done is done, I hope matters improve.

Presume OP is working and needs the care for that rather than paying for breakfast club for an extra couple of hours in bed. Realistically, not many people have enough annual leave to have covered the summer holidays and then take more time off when term starts.

@621CustardCream438

“Yes in our school there was two of us watching the whole school at lunchtime, over 150 children.”

What, in a primary school with kids as little as four, while they were eating inside and playing outside just two members of staff were on duty?! One in and one out? What happened if a child hurt themselves? What about those with SEN? If this happened as anything more than an absolutely exceptional one off I would expect you as school staff with a duty of care to report such unsafe practices not just shrug. No you don’t make the rules but to just state that a sobbing three year old on just his second day of school being left completely alone for an hour isn’t the worst thing that could have happened is pretty heartless. I bet it felt that way to him poor kid.

We were very short on MSAs. At one point I was pregnant and on minimum wage as an MSA and expected to watch over.and hold responsibility for over 100 children as there was so few staff and unlike you'd expect other staff, aka teachers and TAs don't want to miss their lunch break and they don't offer to step in (is that cold and heartless?).

@Plumtree391

You're not unreasonable but why does it take a whole hour for a child to eat breakfast? I'm quite shocked that no members of staff attended to a crying little child and I would say that. It's ridiculous that his brother wasn't allowed to sit with him.

However I think breakfast club on second day at nursery school for a three year old is a bit much, frankly. Small children have to be eased into things. What's done is done, I hope matters improve.

@Plumtree391 he's been in a private nursery for 2 years from 7.45am till 5pm , 4 days a week so I'm hoping the breakfast club isn't an issue. It doesn't take him an hour to eat, it's an hour childcare essentially before school so I can get to work on time. I agree it isn't ideal but unfortunately my work are being completely inflexible with regards to my start time.

Awful, poor little boy.

@Bunnycat101

To be honest I don’t think the care setting is suitable for a 3 year old if they can do that to him. I’d be having some serious thoughts about taking him out and putting him in a private nursery. You can just leave a 3 year old on their own crying. That would just be completely unacceptable to me.

That 100%.

Lockdownpudding: Schools are highly unnatural in my opinion. We've developed ourselves a very odd society, if you think about it, and have been conditioned to think it's normal.
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That's a good point, Lockdown.

What a load of shit.

Totally unacceptable.

No reason why the brothers can't sit together. Anybody who didn't use common sense and do this must be thick.

You're not unreasonable but why does it take a whole hour for a child to eat breakfast? I'm quite shocked that no members of staff attended to a crying little child and I would say that. It's ridiculous that his brother wasn't allowed to sit with him.

Quite a lot of wraparound clubs based in schools put the children in class tables for meals and for doing activities in their attempts to implement their interpretation of the guidance alongside being able to staff it. So they might have 6 groups of tables in the hall, one table per year group, and the kids had to stay on their table for the duration, doing some colouring or something, while you could get the minimum number of staff in to meet ratios and oversee the whole room. If you had each group in a classroom, you'd need a member of staff for each room.

Tbh they didn't want the hassle from a moaning parent. We get it, albeit rarely

You're such a cheeky mare playing the victim and saying you are being ganged up on. This was your vile response to my posting about complaining. You started the horrible posts.

@Theworldishard You should not be working with children OR parents. 'Moaning parent'? How derisory. These are people you are dealing with. Small children.