Aibu to be really cross about this breakfast club situation?

[Henni19]

My 3yo started at the school nursery on Thursday, his 5yo brother went into y1.
On Friday I put them into breakfast club as I had work.
School are still operating bubbles and all other restrictions (i am annoyed about this, although from a thread I posted the other day many disagreed with me).
Anyway it turns out my 3yo is the only child in the nursery bubble in breakfast club so they made him sit at a table on his own for the whole hour, while his brother sat the other side of the hall with his friends.
My eldest saw him crying asking for me and asked if he could sit with him but was told he wasn't allowed.
Only 2 staff work there and they both greeted us so no confusion over them being brothers, sounds like just taking the bubble rule to the extreme.
I cant work out if I am more devastated or bloody fuming about it.
Aibu to send an email to school asking them to use some common sense?
2 days in and 3yo already doesn't want to go back ☹

@EKGEMS

Actually, *@Theworldishard*, I've had to enforce covid quarantine with my patient's families and it was horrible. This isn't about me because reading how a poor little 3-year old was crying in forced segregation from his classmates and brother made me feel sad yet your response was "Lots of children cry it isn't child abuse" that is why I wrote that and all your further posts were unfeeling

Perhaps I could have worded it better but I meant lots of children cry and we comfort as best we can but it's not us being 'abusers' as another poster suggested. We do care, but children cry and nine times out of ten they settle down and are ok.

Henii, your employers should be a little more flexible with hours. It isn't your fault that they are not but - it makes me cross. I expect it makes you cross too.

English schools aren’t operating in bubbles anymore. It seems Covid has caused mass hysteria, turning people into emotionless robots. The poor 3yo on his own. Too young to understand why the adults aren’t letting him play with other DC

Quick afterthought... do required staff ratios come into play in this scenario?

Common sense has abandoned humanity as has humanity.

All of those kids could go to a party in a hiuse but can't have breakfast together. Pathetic.

I would be furious as well. Poor kid.

I'd also be wondering if these people have the competence to look after my children if they can't apply the most basic common sense to a situation like this. Utterly ridiculous.

Hope you get it sorted out soon.

@Fubitch

Tbh they didn't want the hassle from a moaning parent. We get it, albeit rarely

You're such a cheeky mare playing the victim and saying you are being ganged up on. This was your vile response to my posting about complaining. You started the horrible posts.

I'm sorry but your offensive language was quite jarring and immediately set me off on the bad foot. If I am wrong I apologise but maybe think about your language in future. It really doesn't make you come across well.

That's ridiculous. Yes, letting children in the nursery bubble sit with children in other bubbles would in theory defeat the purpose of bubbles, but these two children live together. If 3yo got covid from someone else in nursery, 5yo will get it from him at home and potentially expose the rest of his bubble regardless. Letting 5yo sit with 3yo for lunch doesn't make that more likely.

Anyway I'm off to bed with my DH, got to be up early for my LO. Good night. 💗💗💗💗💗💗

“Would you tell a nurse/Dr that isn't allowed to let relatives to see their dying ones cold and heartless?”

Hard and absolutely awful as that was and still is, there was a fairly obvious rationale for it. The situation in OP is totally different.

And I wouldn’t expect a doctor or nurse talking to someone very upset and describing being unable to visit their dying loved ones to start talking about how it could have been worse if they’d been at their hospital, because and didn’t they know that sometimes people did just die alone anyway.

@Plumtree391

Henii, your employers should be a little more flexible with hours. It isn't your fault that they are not but - it makes me cross. I expect it makes you cross too.

@Plumtree391 it's caused me many sleepless nights, unfortunately it's a really well paid job which I also really enjoy and this is the only thing that let's them down ☹ I'm kind of trapped due to the money element

Mixing and ‘bubbles’
We are no longer recommending that it is necessary to keep children in consistent groups (‘bubbles’). This means that bubbles will not need to be used for any summer provision or from the autumn term.
You should make sure your contingency plans (outbreak management plans) cover the possibility that in some local areas it may become necessary to reintroduce ‘bubbles’ for a temporary period, to reduce mixing between groups.
Any decision to recommend the reintroduction of ‘bubbles’ should not be taken lightly and would need to take account of the detrimental impact they can have on the delivery of education.

From www.gov.uk/government/publications/protective-measures-for-holiday-or-after-school-clubs-and-other-out-of-school-settings-for-children-during-the-coronavirus-covid-19-outbreak/covid-19-actions-for-out-of-school-settings guidance for breakfast clubs

@shouldistop

It's like "computer says no" - totally thick. Where is the extra Covid risk of allowing brothers to play together.

Yeah, this.

Ridiculous. They're together at home.

That is shit. I'd lay out your understanding of what happened in an email to the head, ask her/him to investigate & respond with her/his thoughts ASAP

There's a website that helps with female work flexibility issues due to childcare-will try to find a link, although a well paid job that you enjoy is important & rare.

I'm sorry but your offensive language was quite jarring and immediately set me off on the bad foot. If I am wrong I apologise but maybe think about your language in future. It really doesn't make you come across well

Absolute tosh! I used no bad language whatsoever until you wrote your shitty response to me about the school probably just wanting to shut up a moaning parent. Really rude.

@Kolo thank you. I will get drafting tomorrow!

I'm trying to see if I've kept any of the previous versions of the guidance, whilst bubbles were required. Because even then, there was flexibility to avoid a bubble of 1.

How do you know this was the case? Are you basing this off what your 5 year old told you?

6. Minimise contact between individuals and maintain social distancing wherever possible.

We have organised children into bubbles following school bubbles as much as possible, but balancing that with our own individual circumstances to promote wellbeing by avoiding having a bubble of 1 child alone at any session. Our bubbles are all smaller than individual class sizes, the biggest being ## households. On any one day, we do not have all the children from a bubble attending, our biggest bubble size on any one day is 9 children and the smallest 3. We have reduced the total number of children in any session so that we can space out inside the building (average ## children per session instead of our normal ##) and we will be encouraging children to play outside as much as possible to reduce the risk of transmission. Children from the same household will also be able to play together but not mix bubbles. We will be encouraging the children to socially distance as much as possible, and especially between bubbles and staff will also socially distance as much as possible.

This is from my own settings system of controls for sept 2020.

(Blanked out some numbers for anonymity)

I would be so upset to hear this about my 3 year old. This would be the sort of thing to cause her great anxiety and stop her from wanting to go back.

No common sense at all, and demonstrates a complete lack of compassion towards your son. Even if they couldn’t break bubbles they could at the very least have allowed his big brother to come and sit with him, or even a member of staff.

I’m so sorry OP. How awful for your little one x

@Theworldishard

Don't take it out on me that schools aren't run as you would like. I do my best, I work so hard with the children. But it is my job at the end of the day and if my headteacher says they can't cross bubbles, I have to adhere to that.

History is filled with people who have done immoral and awful things because they were told to and “it is my job at the end of the day”.

I’d rather be unemployed than among their number. You either have a conscience and a backbone or you don’t.

History is filled with people who have done immoral and awful things because they were told to and “it is my job at the end of the day”.

More recently, filled with people who are powerless to do the awful and immoral things but would like to, and find some validation in pretending to have done them on the internet.

That's bloody cruel. I have a three year old and would be horrified if this was happening to her. Really not acceptable for a child of that age. I would definitely try to make them see sense but if they're determined to be idiots I'd have to pull him. Awful thing to do to a tiny child.

[quote EKGEMS]@Theworldishard We are not "ganging up" on you at all,we are, however, wondering how a person so cold and unfeeling has reached adulthood and cannot empathize with a little three year old in distress. I feel sorry that you have no insight in child development and early education. You are like a hollow chocolate bunny [/quote]
You are so bloody rude.