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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To feel like being a mum is easier than being a wife?

120 replies

BrownBrownHi · 04/09/2021 21:06

And to think marriage requires more commitment than having kids?

If you have a child your identity remains the same as always, your goals, your dreams, aspirations don’t have to be any different than before you had them, you are always the same person you always were before having children, and you don’t have to change your name or have your identity become Mrs Someone, only thing that changes really is that you have an additional person or more people to take care of other than yourself.

Meanwhile when you marry, your goals are no longer your own, you job/career plans have to be carefully adjusted so they can match his because in a marriage you always have to compromise on everything, where you live, where you work, what type of house to buy and where and women end up compromising the most. You lose a lot but gain very little. Which is why I think marriage rates keep declining throughout the years because women have realised there’s not much to gain from being married and it’s not guaranteed to be a lifelong commitment anyway. It’s a lot of hard work for no real reason. AIBU?

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aSofaNearYou · 05/09/2021 09:07

I think YABU. Being a parent is much harder and has much more of a toll on your personal goals and identity than being married (at least it should do, an adult should not have a huge negative impact on those things).

I think a key difference is you have to force yourself to want to commit to your spouse, because you don't naturally have to. That can be difficult, and is less often the case with your child.

FartleBarfle · 05/09/2021 09:12

Weird post... Either you aren't married or you married the wrong person. My husband fully supports me and my goals and has helped me achieve them every step of the way. We are a partnership and I wouldn't be where I am in my career or my life without him. I didn't become Mrs - HisSurname either - that's not a requirement for marriage at all. Marriage has probably declined as society has changed and you don't NEED to be married to live together and have a family anymore. It's personal choice.

My kids have enhanced my life for sure but slowed down progress I was making and changed my priorities and direction. Not that I'd ever want to, but there isn't really a way out of being a parent unless you want your kids taken away from you. It's definitely a bigger commitment than being married 😂😂😂

bumblingbovine49 · 05/09/2021 09:15

I feel completely the opposite. I am who I am and feel comfortable in my own skin around DH . With DS I often feel awkward and not who I am supposed to be .Motherhood is definitely not my calling . I'm not saying being a wife is either buy I definitely feel more myself in my relationship with DH than in my relationship with DS

Chikapu · 05/09/2021 09:16

You're talking nonsense.

Sleepyquest · 05/09/2021 09:18

Are you joking? My life barely changed when I married! But now we've had children, our lives have been turned upside down!
But then again, I didn't marry someone I just met. We'd been on the same path for 4 years before we tied the knot Smile and still are

wombforanotherone · 05/09/2021 09:19

I think all the posts having a go at the OP saying there must be something wrong with her marriage are a bit harsh.

I think before you have children maybe it's not so hard to be married but the combination of children AND marriage does make marriage hard. For example if you are not the breadwinner, you may have to move across the country or even internationally for your husbands career, because he earns the money, and therefore you are sacrificing yourself there both for marriage and children. When you have children you do have to compromise with your spouse about who gets to do which activities and when. Yes this is to do with kids but also to do with marriage. You do have to take their needs into account all the time in a different way to if you were a single parent and it is exhausting - people often say it's easier to have the kids when their partner is out. Obviously most people think on balance it's easier to have a partner that's why many people stay in their marriages when they're not totally happy, but that doesn't mean it doesn't involve sacrifices.

VodselForDinner · 05/09/2021 09:20

What a bizarre thread.

What prompted you to ask the question, OP?

I’d see the situation as the opposite to you.

I’m happily married, and happily childfree. I didn’t take my husband’s surname, I’ve never adjusted my ambitions around my husband. If anything, the emotional and financial security that my marriage has provided me has meant I’ve been able to take bigger risks in my career so have progressed well.

Ultimately, I’m in this marriage because I wake up every morning and choose to be. I could walk away from it at any stage but I’m very happy to stick around.

I don’t know a single person who has not been changed by having children and has had to adjust their life plans around their children. I think it’s probably one of the biggest life changes you can go through and it has lifelong consequences on pretty much every aspect of your life.
Having children is a tie- to them, to their father, to their lifestyle.

DeadButDelicious · 05/09/2021 09:35

My husband makes a wonderful contribution to my life, yes we sometimes have to compromise but that's the case in many different relationships. I have never felt that that he has taken anything away from me or my life. He makes it better by being a part of it.

Having children however has been completely different. I have sacrificed my body, my mental health, everything I do now has to factor in my daughter. Do not get me wrong, I do it gladly, I love being her mum and being able to stay at home with her has been an absolute privilege but it's also been hard. I have not been 'free' in the way I was before I had her. She will always factor in my decisions because I'm her mum. I have a connection and a responsibility to her that I don't have to my husband.

Hardbackwriter · 05/09/2021 09:50

@HereticFanjo

It's doing both roles is the killer. I can be a great wife or a great mum - trying to be both I fail at both.
I just don't really understand the idea of being a wife as something I actively do in the way I'm a mum. Having children makes it harder for DH and I to have as much alone time as we'd like but I don't see that as me failing to be a good wife (or him failing to be a good husband) and I don't know what else I'd be actually doing in the way of 'wifing' that children could prevent?
SeriouslyISuppose · 05/09/2021 09:53

@VodselForDinner

What a bizarre thread.

What prompted you to ask the question, OP?

I’d see the situation as the opposite to you.

I’m happily married, and happily childfree. I didn’t take my husband’s surname, I’ve never adjusted my ambitions around my husband. If anything, the emotional and financial security that my marriage has provided me has meant I’ve been able to take bigger risks in my career so have progressed well.

Ultimately, I’m in this marriage because I wake up every morning and choose to be. I could walk away from it at any stage but I’m very happy to stick around.

I don’t know a single person who has not been changed by having children and has had to adjust their life plans around their children. I think it’s probably one of the biggest life changes you can go through and it has lifelong consequences on pretty much every aspect of your life.
Having children is a tie- to them, to their father, to their lifestyle.

This, entirely, but as someone with a child, I’d say that the significantly reorienting your life around a child is temporary and primarily in the early years of the child’s life. These days, DS is a pleasant addition to my life, doing his own thing a lot.
allofthecheese · 05/09/2021 10:26

Being a mother a million times harder than being a wife. Definitely.

Somuddled · 05/09/2021 10:30

Utter tosh.

BiBabbles · 05/09/2021 10:30

It's not unreasonable to feel one is easier than the other - I find it goes back and forth for me depending on what's going on - but like others, I find the reasoning given odd.

Having cared for adults and children, and having had to be cared for myself as an adult, I find the "only thing that changes is that you ave an additional person to take care of" really dismissive. Caring for someone dependant on you takes a lot - there is no "only" there. Many find their goals and even sense of self has to be put aside to deal with the needs of caring. With most children, this level of caring is only a few years, but even as someone who wasn't the "main carer" when most of my kids were at that stage, I wouldn't call it "only" caring.

Yes, my identity changed when I had kids. Not only do my kids call me mum, so do random adults. "Are you mum?" has been a regular occurrence for me for almost 17 years now. I've never been asked "Are you wife?" Having eloped, there was a time when most people in my life didn't even know I was married, it went largely unnoticed unlike my having a baby. No one thought I was entirely different.

Even when I changed my entire name, no one really thought I was entirely different. I was just using a different name (though I'd been planning to change my whole name since I was small so few who knew me were surprised). My identity shifted less from a full name change than it did from having kids.

I find what life has thrown at me outside of marriage and kids has changed my goals dreams and aspirations far more than either my marriage or my kids. I've just changed a lot in the years since. What my spouse and I planned before we got married, very little of that came true and practically none of that is because of my spouse.

Some women do compromise a lot in marriage, but that's not to do with marriage itself but the culture around it in some communities and homes where the expectation is the wife follows the husband's lead. Marriage doesn't have to be like that and really, I don't think people should get married if they haven't discussed and found their future ideals to be aligned even knowing those are likely to change with life circumstances. It's working through those issues that help lay down the foundations when those changes almost inevitably happen. Sadly, that's not always a choice.

I don't think you are seeing things differently. I think you are doing things differently.

This.

I get the idea that being a wife at times can be harder, as many others said - our adult relationships often gets the leftovers after caring for children and work and everything when having responsibilities towards anyone else can feel like a drain.

Generally I find I'm happier when I spend more energy towards my spouse and our marriage - it's just hard to have it sometimes. I don't feel I've lost anything in my marriage, I've gained an entire different life I wouldn't have had otherwise. While I'm also happier when I spent more time with my kids, I can't say the same thing about having not lost anything - my body was altered and the pregnancies caused health issues and far more of my frustration in life is down to worrying about my kids.

KurtWilde · 05/09/2021 10:34

I find being a mum a million times easier than being a wife. I've been separated for a good few years now and I intend to keep it that way.

CoalCraft · 05/09/2021 11:30

Couldn't disagree more. I love my DD but everything I do for her is unidirectional and will be for years to come. With my DH there is no "work" or sacrifice made that is not repaid in kind. We look after each other and help each other.

NowEvenBetter · 05/09/2021 11:37

Wtf?! The sole point of a relationship is that it’s meant to be fun, it’s meant to enhance your life. Did you pick badly?

All I ever hear from people who chose to have a kid is complaining and sympathy seeking, so…

Squirrelblanket · 05/09/2021 11:46

I think you have a very bizarre idea of marriage. Confused

Almost like you think wife means the same as employee.

Newmumatlast · 05/09/2021 11:48

For me, neither one has changed who I am or my ability to do things. Obviously I have to consider other people but we are a team. Yabu

toconclude · 05/09/2021 11:50

@badgerswitharms

Oosh. You've either married the wrong person or I've birthed the wrong kids.

Me and my husband have similar aims and interests. Neither which involve 400 episodes of paw patrol or a Lego marathon over a country walk.

So very much this except I quite like Lego, and to substitute the hour and a half I'll never get back "watching" the Pokémon Movie for Paw Patrol
scarpa · 05/09/2021 20:38

Agreed with pretty much everyone else: being a parent is way more lifechanging than being married.

It's the primary reason I'm not having children - all the things you mention in your OP are things that (as far as I've seen) change when you have children and I don't want that.

your goals are no longer your own - have to consider how your life goals now match up with being a parent/putting your children first

you job/career plans have to be carefully adjusted - so that you can accommodate having parental leave/needing childcare/being around to parent

where you live, where you work, what type of house to buy - for good schools, hours that work with childcare, whether you have enough room for children in your house

Sure, there are people who have kids while living out of vans in a freewheeling relaxed lifestyle because that's who they were pre-baby. But the vast majority of people adjust their lives to suit their children when they have them.

Not to mention the countless threads on here where people talk about how their attitude toward the world, toward risk, towards love and fairness and empathy and all kinds of things change when they have children.

I love my husband enormously, but he hasn't changed my entire life. He adds to it, but he hasn't created an enormous shift in my worldview and my priorities. Everyone I know who has children has experienced this.

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