Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to be pleased with the Ofcam ruling on Piers Morgan

621 replies

TeloMere · 01/09/2021 12:51

Even though I can't stand the bloke?

OP posts:
Thread gallery
10
mustlovegin · 02/09/2021 19:06

loved 'Clarkson's Farm'

Great series, and very educational too

Haywirecity · 02/09/2021 19:14

@derxa
There are millions of people around the world who agree with the Taliban. They're on Twitter unlike Katie Hopkins and Donald Trump

I never thought of that. Katie Hopkins broke the hateful conduct policy. Abhijeet Bhattacharya used insulting language towards women. Neither of them hurt anyone. Meanwhile the Taliban are searching out people to execute, and are enforcing child marriage and therefore child rape. But they can tweet as much as they want. Gotta love SM.

Haywirecity · 02/09/2021 19:20

@mustlovegin

How on earth they (Clarkson and Morgan) ever became so popular is a mystery to me

The problem nowadays is that due to cancel culture, it seems you have to be (or appear to be) a bit of a thug to be brave enough to speak your mind. More mellow people do not dare speak earnestly for fear of being deplatformed, shouted down, losing their jobs, etc. It's a shame, really

I agree. Some of the things they say resonate with a lot of the public. The ones that don't shout up on SM or mouth off in public. They just agree, keep it to themselves, and then those who are busy criticising 'the thugs' are taken aback at polls and election results.
Viviennemary · 02/09/2021 19:32

The way Brexit was covered in the media (including opinions on MN) you wouldn't think the leave vote stood a chance. Shock horror it did. Leave won the day.

VladmirsPoutine · 02/09/2021 19:33

It's unsurprising that men like Clarkson, Eamon Holmes and Piers Morgan capture so much of the public mood and anyone who disagrees with them is vilified as being 'woke'. It's tedious but there we go.

derxa · 02/09/2021 19:53

@VladmirsPoutine

It's unsurprising that men like Clarkson, Eamon Holmes and Piers Morgan capture so much of the public mood and anyone who disagrees with them is vilified as being 'woke'. It's tedious but there we go.
I follow Morgan and Clark on Twitter as well as people such as Ash Sarkar and Dawn Butler. Morgan gets huge abuse, Clarkson is deified by his fans, Ash has an adoring fan club and Dawn Butler gets a mixture of abuse and adoration. I don't think you can generalise.
teaandcrumpets35 · 02/09/2021 20:25

@VladmirsPoutine it's so tedious! How can we overcome this!

adawong · 02/09/2021 20:38

it's so tedious! How can we overcome this
How about listening to people instead of instantly shouting them down.

Nightlystroll · 02/09/2021 20:46

[quote teaandcrumpets35]@VladmirsPoutine it's so tedious! How can we overcome this! [/quote]
Overcome what? 🤔

teaandcrumpets35 · 02/09/2021 20:56

@adawong lol if you'd read my previous posts you'd see that I'm totally in favour of that! But team Piers et al just shout 'woke' and 'snowflake' whenever anyone offers a different viewpoint to their 'telling it as it is'. It is completely tedious.

CorianderBee · 02/09/2021 21:33

@ilovemydogandmrobama2

I seriously don't understand why Piers is so triggered by Meghan Confused
He was the first person she met when she came to London. As a friend, but she soon ditched him when she became entangled with Harry.

I think he's always felt it was an insult.

DottyHarmer · 03/09/2021 09:00

Some posters on here sound rather sinister. Only the “correct” views are to be tolerated. What is the correct view? What if someone found with a knife in their hand and a body on the ground says, “I’m innocent” ? Do we have to believe them, or are we allowed to express doubts and attempt to prove them guilty?

What about Prince Andrew? His truth may well be that he was in the Woking Pizza Express at “the time in question” . Do we believe him? By some posters’ logic, yes we should.

ajandjjmum · 03/09/2021 09:37

I don't think you'll find too many posters defending Andrew @DottyHarmer

The only thing I will say is that he hasn't been charged - let alone found guilty - of anything YET.

ohtobeyoungagain · 03/09/2021 09:42

He was the first person she met when she came to London. As a friend, but she soon ditched him when she became entangled with Harry.

I think he's always felt it was an insult.

That Cundy woman says she was the first, and feels quite insulted too.

MM also met Millie Mcintosh from MIC, and I think this was all before any of these people. But she is rather low key and keeping it as they all should, instead of making themselves relevant on MM's name.

ajandjjmum · 03/09/2021 09:50

Before 'the wedding' wasn't it suggested that Millie McIntosh was going to be bridesmaid? I remember a photo of them cycling together at Soho House, the implication being they were great friends. As it was, I don't think she was invited to the wedding.

My opinion is that Meghan was spreading her net far and wide to see who she could use to advance her career/life. Nothing awful about that if it's celebrity that you're after, but I bet should couldn't believe her luck when Harry appeared.

ohtobeyoungagain · 03/09/2021 09:51

I see that GMB did not make as much of a song and dance as I expected about this case - albeit what can they say. But they tend to dissect everything regarding H&M.

ITV said they would keep on working with Piers with Lifestories etc. but not GMB. I wonder if he overplayed his hand. He thinks he is a great presenter, but the truth is that he was over the top, talking over everyone (it got to the point where the MPs were getting away with not answering the questions, on the excuse that they can't get a word in. This has not been overlooked by the public who want answers). No doubt he costs a fortune, so I wonder if on balance having different guest presenters like Ravin etc. it was not concluded that they did the job (possibly for less money, shrill etc.).

His main audience must have gone to that GBnews channel I guess, but they are too poor to pay his ego. I see that his little round around the US right wing channels does not seem to have gone as he had hoped. He was a guest to Tyler something on Fox - but he is their Piers, so no space for him there.

Other than DM, what is his regular high profile job, cause he thrives on public attention. No wonder he wants to go back to GMB, but I suspect the bosses now have the upper hand and may undercut his pay check. Depends if he ego can take it.

MaMelon · 03/09/2021 09:52

@ajandjjmum

Before 'the wedding' wasn't it suggested that Millie McIntosh was going to be bridesmaid? I remember a photo of them cycling together at Soho House, the implication being they were great friends. As it was, I don't think she was invited to the wedding.

My opinion is that Meghan was spreading her net far and wide to see who she could use to advance her career/life. Nothing awful about that if it's celebrity that you're after, but I bet should couldn't believe her luck when Harry appeared.

The beautiful woman who just sort of tripped and fell into his life you mean? Yeah, right HmmGrin
ajandjjmum · 03/09/2021 10:00

@ohtobeyoungagain He's still being paid by GMB, so I suppose there's no rush!

ohtobeyoungagain · 03/09/2021 10:06

Oh, how is that possible when he resigned? How long would they carry that on for? Considering they are a commercial channel, you would think they keep an eagle eye on finances, especially as I say, he must cost a lot.

FreddyKreugersWife · 03/09/2021 11:08

@ajandjjmum

Before 'the wedding' wasn't it suggested that Millie McIntosh was going to be bridesmaid? I remember a photo of them cycling together at Soho House, the implication being they were great friends. As it was, I don't think she was invited to the wedding.

My opinion is that Meghan was spreading her net far and wide to see who she could use to advance her career/life. Nothing awful about that if it's celebrity that you're after, but I bet should couldn't believe her luck when Harry appeared.

Here we go with the sexist 'the woman is a gold-digger' misogynistic rubbish. Lets be honest, you wouldn't accuse a man of "casting a net" and looking to "advance his career/life". The sexism, misogyny simply shows women are our own worst enemies. She fell in love with Harry. It is as simple as that. No need to think the worst of a woman and accuse her of being a gold digger and 'casting her net' (ffs Hmm ). Men are quite capable of treating women as gold digging manipulators without women perpetuating this disgusting sexist misogyny.
Serenster · 03/09/2021 11:13

@ohtobeyoungagain

He was the first person she met when she came to London. As a friend, but she soon ditched him when she became entangled with Harry.

I think he's always felt it was an insult.

That Cundy woman says she was the first, and feels quite insulted too.

MM also met Millie Mcintosh from MIC, and I think this was all before any of these people. But she is rather low key and keeping it as they all should, instead of making themselves relevant on MM's name.

I’m not no sure about Millie Mackintosh keeping it low key, ohtobeyoungagain! If you’d look at articles like this in the Mail (there was similar coverage in the Mirror etc) gushing about how close they were, and suggesting she may be helping plan the wedding….well, given she didn’t, and she was’t even invited in the end, that story clearly didn’t come from Meghan Markle. Which leaves us with… Grin

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5373859/Mille-Mackintosh-Meghan-Markles-wedding-fixer.html

Serenster · 03/09/2021 11:29

Lets be honest, you wouldn't accuse a man of "casting a net" and looking to "advance his career/life"

Actually that’s exactly what Prince Phillip was accused of when he got engaged to the then Princess Elizabeth - the fact he was penniless and with a troubled family background was one reason why her family and the government weren’t at all keen on him as her husband.

Also, men and women have made personally advantageous marriages in all walks of life for centuries!. Katherine Woodville, Henry VII and William of Orange are good examples in the royal family alone. It would be ridiculous to deny that meeting and falling in love with Prince Harry wasn’t, from Meghan Markle’s perspective, a spectacularly good outcome for someone who clearly aspired to be wealthy and famous.

MistySkiesAfterRain · 03/09/2021 11:31

He's no longer on GMB so the situation is a win as far as I'm concerned.

MaMelon · 03/09/2021 11:39

I suspect he’ll be back in some form - he was too popular.

ohtobeyoungagain · 03/09/2021 12:07

DM and Millie are not the same thing.

The DM were using MM name for profit as always.

I saw Millie in an interview being questioned about it, she was very brief, and did not try to overplay the friendship. She just said she was among other actresses that she had been introduced to. She found her nice and they had a good time, but she most definitely did not make it any more that what it was. She may have mentioned the bike ride, but did not say anything about the wedding.

Swipe left for the next trending thread