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She's a different person

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lostandlonelydad · 23/08/2021 13:39

Firstly, I apologise for not using many abbreviations as I'm new here, and secondly I appreciate this in mumsnet not dadsnet.

WHere do I start. We met via an online app/agency thing, exchanged messages, met, got on, got married - that the first 2 years in a sentance.
She was an accountant, who then become an FD, was earning more than me then gave up work a little under a year before our first born arrived. Absolutely no issue with that, as they have a wonderful bond and he is a great kid because of this. Three years later, and number two arrived, and she got similar amounts of love and attention. During this time, there were comments about my spending of money (and one conversation about money spent and earned before we had even met, that she resented the fact I would spend money on certain things) but thngs moved on.
She decided to start work again, but not in the same role, area or anything, but working with animals, on farms - something she has grown up with, and was a complete change of direction. Very poor pay, very long hours but she loves it.
All the while I still work, don't travel as much as I used to, which is great, but do pay 80% of my salary into a joint account that pays for everything, the other 20% pays for phone/internet/cars etc. so not much left at the end of each month.
When needed, I will help out on the farm, doing jobs, fixing things, anything that she needs, I'll stop what I'm doing and help - I don't make plans for the weekends usually, since there are too many things to do, and if she needs something, anything I may have planned gets postponed or cancelled.
We got to our 10 year anniversary, she suggested a weekend in London, watch a play/movie, take the kids, but ONLY if my credit card/bank balance would support it. So, I booked the weekend away, organised an apartment out of town so the kids could enjoy/endure a tube ride, got tickets for a show, and put it in the diary in the kitchen that is used to ensure all activities are planned/known.
She crossed it out - meaning no, we're not doing it - so I cancelled all plans, accomodation, tickets etc. To be told later that I hadn't done anything, hadn't organised etc. to which I pointed out the crossing out in the calendar - no reasonable response to that, just well, you probably can't afford it.
We argued about other odd things, an afternoon/evening after collecting the kids from school - I met a dad while collecting the kids, who told me that there were plans (I wasn't aware), and we would all be meeting at the pub, so I went there, met two other families, ordered a round of drinks, sent her a message letter her know where the kids and I were, and asked what she wanted to drink when she got there, and the reply was NO, bring them home. So, I did as requested, she then got them changed, then went out - to the pub, leaving me behind. A little later, the dad I had met came over, as he had borrowed my car for a week, and dropped it off and said - XXXX mentioned something about you having gone to the pub inspite of her....what does that mean?
Got a message later, can I take my son and his friend to cricket? Sure, take him there, but I@m really pissed off now with the odd comment, just being left out (when I got there other dads were there, but I'm not invited), anyway - roll on a few weeks..
I get negativity from her all the time - if I worked 7 days she would go mad at me - why don't I talk to HR, why do they make me do this, why the long hour, don't they care? She doesn't have those rules, and yes, she could ask for less hours and no weekends.
There is no recognition that I have sacrificed all my hobbies, sold my car, sold my 4x4, and have no friends or social life, so I am working to pay for the house as her £10/hr job doesn't quite cover any of the bills, and none of what she earns really contributes to our household costs.
Her change of lifestyle is great for her, exactly what she wants to do, and she seems happier - unless I'm in reasonable proximity - but nothing positive comes to me from her, she even told me that I don't do anything - despite every weekend being filled up with a succession of jobs inside and out, and taking care of the kids and all the dogs she has accumulated, just assumes I can do everything, but I get nothing.
We sleep in seperate rooms, which she seems more than happy about - this is because I became convinced she was having an affair, always on her phone, always messaging, never to me, never got a nice word for me, just negativity, criticism, etc. and I confronted her about it (based on having had to go through exactly the same before we met, and found out my partner had been having an affair for 3 years), so we are kind of seperated but in the same house, she even complained that the room I'm in looks more like a bedsit than just somewhere to sleep, since all my things are in there, as she had made enough comments about seeing anything of mine in the house, so I gathered all my stuff and put it in 'my room'.

So, no rules apply to her, all apply to me - she does what she wants, doesn't need to let me know, goes where she likes, and when, we will be in the living room each evening, before she goes upstairs and I go in the hell, but she's not present, as the phone is there the whole time.
I have become more and more withdrawn, less responsive, and now this is being pushed on to me as another negative - why are you so miserable all the time?? Well, I wonder - is it because I am desperately lonely? Is it because I don't know the person on the other side of this room?

I'm really proud of her, how she has completely changed her life from finance to farming, and of the stories she has from her days at work, the things she knows and can do - she's absolutely amazing, but she doesn't seem to care about me at all, no interest in my day, my feelings, thoughts, desires - none of that. There has been no intimacy in three years, nothing at all - not even holding hands or a kiss on a message..
I am so desperately lonely and unhappy, I feel utterly unappreciated (this weekend's "you don't do anything" comment really cemented that) and frankly, if it weren't for my kids, I wouldn't be here today typing this, I would have hung myself in my gym the day she told me we were separated, and she wanted the house in her name only - that very nearly killed me that day, and months of counselling has put me on a more even keel, but even now, two years later, - well, it's still in the forefront of my mind.

OP posts:
Bettercallsaul1 · 23/08/2021 18:19

This is one of the saddest posts I’ve read on here. Please listen to all the good advice, OP, and get out of this barren, loveless marriage. No-one deserves to live like this. I’m glad you’re finally facing up to the reality of your situation - your posting here is proof of that. Now take the next steps and plan your escape. You deserve so much better than this.

inigomontoyahwillcox · 23/08/2021 18:20

Do not put the house into her name, get legal advice ASAP (this doesn't necessarily mean getting the ball rolling with divorce - but you at least need some advice). I suggest calling the Men's Advice Line for some support and perspective, as it sounds like you are being abused.

COPPER3 · 23/08/2021 18:25

This is unanimous here, we are all on your side. MANIPULATION, CONTROL, EMOTIONAL ABUSE..your so-called wife has just about knocked all the stuffing out of you. As already said, make moves and plans to leave and open that new door to a happier, calmer, contented life. Good luck my love

AcrossthePond55 · 23/08/2021 18:30

Get to a solicitor NOW regarding the house and other assets. You need to know exactly where you stand. Do or say nothing until you've educated yourself. Once you have that information and have followed a solicitor's suggestions, get the hell out of Dodge. Then get the legal ball rolling

But do start now to pull back emotionally. It's not easy, but try. Stop asking her what she thinks or feels about things. Stop telling her your thoughts or opinions. Stop trying to 'do things' for her, if she suggests doing something 'for you' politely decline, even if it's just picking up the dry cleaning. Begin to live a separate emotional life. Invest yourself in your children. Begin to plan how you will parent as a lone parent and start taking small steps to do so.

You say you aren't close to your family. Stop and think....has it always been so or has she isolated/separated you from them with her criticism of them or perhaps engineered disagreements with them in which you have 'had' to take her side? Many abusers isolate their victims in order to keep them away from support. The same with your friends. Did you have friends before and she disliked them so you stopped seeing them? At any rate, if any of that rings true, contact them. They probably already know the truth and they've been waiting for your call. You may hear a few "We told you so"s but it'll be worth it in the end.

One thing I'll mention, and it may not be a 'thing' for you. But please do not let your eye or heart wander. It's very easy when you're unhappy to look for solace 'elsewhere'. Don't. There will be time enough later. Right now you need to concentrate on yourself and your emotional well-being.

Counseling may not be a bad thing. And the courts won't take it to mean you're an 'unfit' father. Quite the opposite. They can see it as you trying to find your way forward in the best possible way and least disruptive way for yourself and your children.

itsgettingwierd · 23/08/2021 18:32

Excellent post by Enid above.

Read and really take note.

You need to find a life where what you want counts too.

RusholmeRuffian · 23/08/2021 18:38

Life is too short to tolerate this kind of shit. You sounds like a decent human being and she sounds bloody horrible. Leave and don't look back.

Bythemillpond · 23/08/2021 18:41

I know the advice is to leave but I think there will be a lot of rewriting of history especially if you gave her the house.

The children need you there. I wouldn’t be surprised if you left and she then moved someone else in. The clearing of your things into just one room sounds like they could have been a giveaway for a facade she has created.

GreatestShowman · 23/08/2021 18:48

Oh OP this was so hard to read. I'm so sorry.

You sound like a decent, kind man.

Please don't continue to allow her to treat you this way, I wouldn't be doing sod all on the farm for her for a start.

You've had some good advice here that I can't add to but I just wanted to wish you well. There is more to life than this and you deserve to be happy, you and your kids.

inigomontoyahwillcox · 23/08/2021 18:58

Very good advice from AcrossthePond55

WhateverHappenedToFayWray · 23/08/2021 19:10

You are worth more than this. Please consider leaving.

HummingBeeBox · 23/08/2021 19:16

This is heart breaking. I agree that you need legal advice, pull back and sort out your plan to leave. Your children will benefit from a better version of both of you. I have very clear memories of both my mum and dad being happier and being pleased with their divorce. I was only 6 but was fully aware they were sad together.

yourestandingonmyneck · 23/08/2021 20:03

God that is so sad.

You sound like a nice guy. Just move on. You'll still have your kids, and you will be free to rekindle your old life / friendships or make new ones. A new relationship, in time, if you want it.

Hope you're ok. You've got a lot going for you. Get yourself out there x

Yesitsbess · 23/08/2021 20:14

You've had lots of good advice and support here. You sound exhausted and drained and trying to keep it all together whilst second guessing the needs of someone who can't be pleased, or even mollified by the sounds of it.

Start getting your ducks in a row (not her ducks though, she can deal with her own ducks from now on!) and reclaim your weekends for restarting your hobbies, fun time with the kids, and making some new friends.

BSideBaby · 23/08/2021 21:44

I do not want to disrupt my kids lives

But your kids lives will have to be disrupted if you're going to get them to a better place. The disruption will be fleeting and their gratitude will be lifelong (I'm speaking from experience).

Cosmos123 · 23/08/2021 21:54

Life is too short.
You clearly both aren't happy.
Make a plan and get out.
One day you can meet someone you can share your life with and enjoy your children grow up.

What you have is not healthy. It will be tough but worth it.

Penistoe · 23/08/2021 22:08

Op I hope you come back to tell us you are ok. Your post is truly heartbreaking.
You deserve better and sound like a lovely man.

Lostmarbles2021 · 23/08/2021 22:10

OP you sound like a kind, thoughtful man who is a good dad and husband. Google Coercive and controlling relationships and see how many boxes yours ticks.

Advice above to get some good legal advice is good, even if you don’t leave.

Start keeping a diary.

You need to rediscover yourself. What you like. What’s important to you. If you want to stay in the pub with your kids and the other parents and kids you can. You don’t need permission. They are your kids.

Best of luck. Hang in there. Everything changes and life can get better and your kids need you. Focus on your relationship with them and start looking after yourself in whatever way nourishes you best.

Good luck.

gg12346 · 23/08/2021 22:53

She is a self centric person,I would say quit .Its hard specially when kids are involved but you might go into depression like this.

Coyoacan · 24/08/2021 02:44

Another one saying leave. Is this response unanimous?

I'm not condemning your wife, but you are so obviously unhappy and you should not be living with someone who doesn't appreciate you, that is soul-destroying.

By the way, parents cannot give themselves the luxury of suicide or allowing life to defeat them. We have to set a good example to our children and staying in a toxic relationship is not a good example either.

lostandlonelydad · 24/08/2021 09:37

Just a little update. She hasn't got the house in her name, it was something she said she wanted to do/wished she had as she has better control over money than I do - hence the comment, but we have never missed any bills, even when I couldn't get a job for over a year.
I am keeping a diary, have been for a while, to catalogue some of the worst moments, when I get really low.
And - @Coyoacan, you are right, as a parent I don't have that option, and the more I've thought about this situation, and the more I've learned, the clearer it is that my kids need me, and I will not allow them to have a life where I'm not there.
I have no interest in starting another relationship, not even a fling, that's not what this is about, I don't want to have to go through this again, or even a slim shadow of it.

I'm reading up on coercive control, and have an initial appointment with a family law solicitor next week to discuss the situation.

In terms of my family, we've never really been close, so that isn't one of her levers that she has pulled, but she won't come to see my folks - we used to live just down the road from them, and she would be there quite often with my mum, but since we moved away, she will always find a reason not to visit.

I do want to thank each and every one of you on here for your comments and advice, and this is why I came to this site over any other, for completely balanced and impartial comments, so thank you.

OP posts:
3luckystars · 24/08/2021 09:41

All the very best to you. Expect her to change dramatically in panic when she realises that the bank is closing. I call this ‘the sting of the dying wasp’ don’t lose heart no matter what she does. You can see her now and hopefully see yourself too.
Good luck.

Nonicknamesforcatapillars · 24/08/2021 10:00

You are just a cash cow to her, that’s all. Leave now. Your relationship is over and has been for a long time by the sounds of it. You are doing your kids no favours by staying in this situation, it’s toxic and must be horrible to live through day in day out.

Yesitsbess · 24/08/2021 10:09

Thanks for the update OP, you sound like you already have some more clarity.

KarmaStar · 24/08/2021 10:15

Hi op,I'm so sorry,you don't need anyone on here to tell you she is a selfish bully using you to find her lifestyle.
Now is the time to gather your strength and say " no more ".
See a solicitor,get your finances straight and decide what you want for your future with your dc.
No more helping her,no more being nice.
It stops now.
Do not give in if she gets all friendly and loving,she will just be trying to get you back under her thumb.
She is abusing you.
Not assume everyone will side with her,there will be one of two that can clearly see how you are being used and disrespected.
Once you are resettled things will very much improve for you and you will find yourself smiling,content and happy,humming away as you drive,wondering how life can be so good.
Ring that solicitor now and look forward with optimism,don't look backwards,you'll not be able to move forwards if you do.🌈🌻

ConstanceGracy · 24/08/2021 10:37

I’m glad you have an appointment to get the ball rolling.
She sounds abusive and manipulative and although you mentioned you were worried about her getting the sympathy vote, I bet money when you do finally leave your friends will be like “yeah I could see she wasn’t a nice person” People like her can’t always hide it that well 100 % of the time!
Get out and don’t look back, your kids as well as yourself will be better off for it!