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lostandlonelydad · 23/08/2021 13:39

Firstly, I apologise for not using many abbreviations as I'm new here, and secondly I appreciate this in mumsnet not dadsnet.

WHere do I start. We met via an online app/agency thing, exchanged messages, met, got on, got married - that the first 2 years in a sentance.
She was an accountant, who then become an FD, was earning more than me then gave up work a little under a year before our first born arrived. Absolutely no issue with that, as they have a wonderful bond and he is a great kid because of this. Three years later, and number two arrived, and she got similar amounts of love and attention. During this time, there were comments about my spending of money (and one conversation about money spent and earned before we had even met, that she resented the fact I would spend money on certain things) but thngs moved on.
She decided to start work again, but not in the same role, area or anything, but working with animals, on farms - something she has grown up with, and was a complete change of direction. Very poor pay, very long hours but she loves it.
All the while I still work, don't travel as much as I used to, which is great, but do pay 80% of my salary into a joint account that pays for everything, the other 20% pays for phone/internet/cars etc. so not much left at the end of each month.
When needed, I will help out on the farm, doing jobs, fixing things, anything that she needs, I'll stop what I'm doing and help - I don't make plans for the weekends usually, since there are too many things to do, and if she needs something, anything I may have planned gets postponed or cancelled.
We got to our 10 year anniversary, she suggested a weekend in London, watch a play/movie, take the kids, but ONLY if my credit card/bank balance would support it. So, I booked the weekend away, organised an apartment out of town so the kids could enjoy/endure a tube ride, got tickets for a show, and put it in the diary in the kitchen that is used to ensure all activities are planned/known.
She crossed it out - meaning no, we're not doing it - so I cancelled all plans, accomodation, tickets etc. To be told later that I hadn't done anything, hadn't organised etc. to which I pointed out the crossing out in the calendar - no reasonable response to that, just well, you probably can't afford it.
We argued about other odd things, an afternoon/evening after collecting the kids from school - I met a dad while collecting the kids, who told me that there were plans (I wasn't aware), and we would all be meeting at the pub, so I went there, met two other families, ordered a round of drinks, sent her a message letter her know where the kids and I were, and asked what she wanted to drink when she got there, and the reply was NO, bring them home. So, I did as requested, she then got them changed, then went out - to the pub, leaving me behind. A little later, the dad I had met came over, as he had borrowed my car for a week, and dropped it off and said - XXXX mentioned something about you having gone to the pub inspite of her....what does that mean?
Got a message later, can I take my son and his friend to cricket? Sure, take him there, but I@m really pissed off now with the odd comment, just being left out (when I got there other dads were there, but I'm not invited), anyway - roll on a few weeks..
I get negativity from her all the time - if I worked 7 days she would go mad at me - why don't I talk to HR, why do they make me do this, why the long hour, don't they care? She doesn't have those rules, and yes, she could ask for less hours and no weekends.
There is no recognition that I have sacrificed all my hobbies, sold my car, sold my 4x4, and have no friends or social life, so I am working to pay for the house as her £10/hr job doesn't quite cover any of the bills, and none of what she earns really contributes to our household costs.
Her change of lifestyle is great for her, exactly what she wants to do, and she seems happier - unless I'm in reasonable proximity - but nothing positive comes to me from her, she even told me that I don't do anything - despite every weekend being filled up with a succession of jobs inside and out, and taking care of the kids and all the dogs she has accumulated, just assumes I can do everything, but I get nothing.
We sleep in seperate rooms, which she seems more than happy about - this is because I became convinced she was having an affair, always on her phone, always messaging, never to me, never got a nice word for me, just negativity, criticism, etc. and I confronted her about it (based on having had to go through exactly the same before we met, and found out my partner had been having an affair for 3 years), so we are kind of seperated but in the same house, she even complained that the room I'm in looks more like a bedsit than just somewhere to sleep, since all my things are in there, as she had made enough comments about seeing anything of mine in the house, so I gathered all my stuff and put it in 'my room'.

So, no rules apply to her, all apply to me - she does what she wants, doesn't need to let me know, goes where she likes, and when, we will be in the living room each evening, before she goes upstairs and I go in the hell, but she's not present, as the phone is there the whole time.
I have become more and more withdrawn, less responsive, and now this is being pushed on to me as another negative - why are you so miserable all the time?? Well, I wonder - is it because I am desperately lonely? Is it because I don't know the person on the other side of this room?

I'm really proud of her, how she has completely changed her life from finance to farming, and of the stories she has from her days at work, the things she knows and can do - she's absolutely amazing, but she doesn't seem to care about me at all, no interest in my day, my feelings, thoughts, desires - none of that. There has been no intimacy in three years, nothing at all - not even holding hands or a kiss on a message..
I am so desperately lonely and unhappy, I feel utterly unappreciated (this weekend's "you don't do anything" comment really cemented that) and frankly, if it weren't for my kids, I wouldn't be here today typing this, I would have hung myself in my gym the day she told me we were separated, and she wanted the house in her name only - that very nearly killed me that day, and months of counselling has put me on a more even keel, but even now, two years later, - well, it's still in the forefront of my mind.

OP posts:
OverweightPidgeon · 23/08/2021 14:43

Agree with all of the above-you need to leave, don’t worry about the being labelled as ‘mental’ , divorce lawyers have heard it all before.

I wish you luck, please don’t carry on with this sham of a marriage.

Coronado2 · 23/08/2021 14:44

Just leave. Rebuild your life, regain some self worth. She's keeping you around because it's convenient to her.

1forAll74 · 23/08/2021 14:48

What a sad read this is, but you have clearly highlighted so many things that have gone wrong in this relationship, so you will be able I am sure, to, at some point, be in the frame of mind,as what you would like to do about all things now.. Your children of course,will be your main worry, as your wife and yourself, are now on a different page concerning most things in life..

Don't think of harming yourself because of all your worries and distress.

I myself, went through a divorce many years ago, for different reasons, we had two young children then, but after all the hassle of the divorce, we decided to stay friends thereafter. and so we did, for 30 years, until he died a few years ago.

Franklyfrost · 23/08/2021 14:51

You sound very sorry for yourself and at no point in your story do you mention what struggles your partner was having, what was lacking in her life or how you could be at fault in any way. I suspect she’s doing something similar.

If you’re not happy with the money/weekends situation then sort it out. What arrangement would be fair? You could have one day each of the weekend to do as you want. What jobs are you doing all weekend? Are they really necessary repairs? If not then don’t do them. Work out your living costs and contribute 50/50 to them or contribute the same percentage of your wage. There are solutions to your problems but having a big sulk in your bedroom isn’t one of them. What are you doing coming home from the pub because she demands it? Was it an emergency? If not then, really, what are you doing?

3scape · 23/08/2021 14:53

Leave. She sounds horribly critical and is just using you to sub her lifestyle. You'll be doing the kids a favour. Respect should be obvious and observable in a relationship. The kids aren't seeing that in action

Bretoony · 23/08/2021 15:00

She's doing farm work alright, milking the cash cow.

Branleuse · 23/08/2021 15:01

sounds like youve grown apart. Very far apart. I wouldnt want to live like this.

NoNotYou · 23/08/2021 15:07

LTB

LuaDipa · 23/08/2021 15:18

Her behaviour is abusive and you need to leave.

MsTSwift · 23/08/2021 15:20

Upsetting read. Get out!

ThanksIGotItInMorrisons · 23/08/2021 15:25

Leave. Take the kids and leave. Apply for divorce. Sell the house. She is being emotionally abusive. Do not waste your ONE LIFE any further. Love and cherish your children the way you always have. I’m sorry this is happening to you. You sound like a lovely person and now she’s taking advantage. She’s keeping you around for convenience and to pay the bills. You are worth more than that.

Fudgein · 23/08/2021 15:28

She has explicitly told you she wants the relationship to be over, you decided against this & now the situation is that you are still living together but in her mind you are separated. I really do feel for you but I think you saying you would 'hang yourself in the garage' when she asked to separate is not healthy & she probably now feels trapped incase you decide to take your own life. This is not healthy for either of you, secure your finances and separate. Surely you can see there is nothing worth hanging on to now?

2Hot2Handle · 23/08/2021 15:30

It certainly sounds like you’re really unhappy and not getting anything from being in this marriage right now, but maybe don’t write it off just yet, given that you have DC to think of.
Have you tried laying it all out for her about how unhappy you are? I don’t mean off-the-cuff arguments, or spontaneous conversations. I mean arranging a proper time to talk. Phones off and bring a list of things you need to talk about with you. Ask her if she would give you the chance to just talk and then tell her how you feel and what you want. If you want to have counselling, make that clear. Do your best to keep calm and avoid blame. If she loves and cares for you, hearing you say how unhappy you are, should make her want to do something about it. She may have her own list of things that she’s unhappy about and could be putting lots of effort in, feeling unrecognised and appreciated the same way you do.
Her reaction will tell you whether or not she is prepared to fight for your marriage, or not. Then you can go from there.

Bigtruth · 23/08/2021 15:31

OP, this woman has beaten you to within an inch of your life. I guarantee that you're not the same man you were when you met, you've lost touch with friends, you don't have any confidence anymore and the only way you look for approval is through your wife.

She's abusive and you're in an abusive marriage, she's killing you and you can't even see her as the villain but it looks like that's changing for you now.

She's taking you for a mug. She knows you're a good person, someone who wants to do right by his family and she's using that as a stick to beat you.

You need to leave, it's best for you, it's what she wants and it's best for the children as well.

When your confidence eventually comes back you'll recognise what's happened here, I'm so so sorry for your suffering.

Unravelling2021 · 23/08/2021 15:32

Show her what you typed here and leave. NEVER LOOK BACK.

arethereanyleftatall · 23/08/2021 15:33

I'm sure her side of the story would paint a very different picture. But, it doesn't matter whatsoever. She doesn't like you at all, hasn't for years, so it's irrelevant who did/said what. Leave.

Tohaveandtohold · 23/08/2021 15:34

Certainly you need to LTB.
You only have one life to live and this is no way to live it surely

ANameChangeAgain · 23/08/2021 15:42

Although a different perspective is useful,
@Franklyfrost is a bit harsh and proves the point that mens mental health isn't always taken seriously. Everyone else though seems pretty unanimous that you need to separate. You aren't doing the children or yourself any favours by staying together. Work out a proper schedule for co parenting and work out who stays and who goes.

motherofcatsandbears · 23/08/2021 15:42

She is using you in the worst possible way. Is the house in joint names? Have you suggested marriage counselling together or singly?
If I’m brutally honest, it sounds like she’s keeping you for your income, the marriage is well and truly over and you need to start looking for a divorce lawyer.
Make sure you keep notes of what she says/ does, any witnesses, money earned and outgoings just so you know where she stands.
Please please please don’t consider suicide - one of my brothers killed himself over something very similar in 1986 and I’ve never got over it. Help is always available x

DrSbaitso · 23/08/2021 15:47

You ate being used and this is heartbreaking.

LaikO · 23/08/2021 15:54

She is abusive, the epitome of controlling. She's forced you into giving up everything to support her life choices, and treats you like crap. It almost sounds like she enjoys hurting you (the pub incident in particular, that was plain nasty).
If I were you, I'd leave her.

Itsokay2020 · 23/08/2021 15:54

This is awful to read, it’s so toxic. I agree that you should leave, you’re getting nothing from this marriage. All the time you stay, your mental health (and probably your physical health) is taking a hammering.

A relationship should enhance you, bring company and contentment, security and respect. You shouldn’t be lonely, downtrodden and questioning your self worth. You have so much to give, yet it’s not appreciated.

As others have said, get legal advice before making your next move. Understand your assets etc it will give you clarity. In the meantime, do things for you and if she’s not disclosing her whereabouts to you then I see no reason why you need to declare yours. Make contact with friends from the past, go out, make plans, breathe, focus on what’s important to you. Build your strength, eat and sleep well (if you can), write things down if it helps to clear your mind.

Each day is a new day, aim to make it better than the day before, plan your amazing future, look forward to not feeling like this again. You can do this, OP

Eclairesarethebest · 23/08/2021 15:58

She's being abusive, toxic and down right using you. Leave.

vixeyann · 23/08/2021 15:59

Leave and get yourself a life you will enjoy rather than an existence.

Chocaholic9 · 23/08/2021 16:01

You need to leave her.

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