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She's a different person

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lostandlonelydad · 23/08/2021 13:39

Firstly, I apologise for not using many abbreviations as I'm new here, and secondly I appreciate this in mumsnet not dadsnet.

WHere do I start. We met via an online app/agency thing, exchanged messages, met, got on, got married - that the first 2 years in a sentance.
She was an accountant, who then become an FD, was earning more than me then gave up work a little under a year before our first born arrived. Absolutely no issue with that, as they have a wonderful bond and he is a great kid because of this. Three years later, and number two arrived, and she got similar amounts of love and attention. During this time, there were comments about my spending of money (and one conversation about money spent and earned before we had even met, that she resented the fact I would spend money on certain things) but thngs moved on.
She decided to start work again, but not in the same role, area or anything, but working with animals, on farms - something she has grown up with, and was a complete change of direction. Very poor pay, very long hours but she loves it.
All the while I still work, don't travel as much as I used to, which is great, but do pay 80% of my salary into a joint account that pays for everything, the other 20% pays for phone/internet/cars etc. so not much left at the end of each month.
When needed, I will help out on the farm, doing jobs, fixing things, anything that she needs, I'll stop what I'm doing and help - I don't make plans for the weekends usually, since there are too many things to do, and if she needs something, anything I may have planned gets postponed or cancelled.
We got to our 10 year anniversary, she suggested a weekend in London, watch a play/movie, take the kids, but ONLY if my credit card/bank balance would support it. So, I booked the weekend away, organised an apartment out of town so the kids could enjoy/endure a tube ride, got tickets for a show, and put it in the diary in the kitchen that is used to ensure all activities are planned/known.
She crossed it out - meaning no, we're not doing it - so I cancelled all plans, accomodation, tickets etc. To be told later that I hadn't done anything, hadn't organised etc. to which I pointed out the crossing out in the calendar - no reasonable response to that, just well, you probably can't afford it.
We argued about other odd things, an afternoon/evening after collecting the kids from school - I met a dad while collecting the kids, who told me that there were plans (I wasn't aware), and we would all be meeting at the pub, so I went there, met two other families, ordered a round of drinks, sent her a message letter her know where the kids and I were, and asked what she wanted to drink when she got there, and the reply was NO, bring them home. So, I did as requested, she then got them changed, then went out - to the pub, leaving me behind. A little later, the dad I had met came over, as he had borrowed my car for a week, and dropped it off and said - XXXX mentioned something about you having gone to the pub inspite of her....what does that mean?
Got a message later, can I take my son and his friend to cricket? Sure, take him there, but I@m really pissed off now with the odd comment, just being left out (when I got there other dads were there, but I'm not invited), anyway - roll on a few weeks..
I get negativity from her all the time - if I worked 7 days she would go mad at me - why don't I talk to HR, why do they make me do this, why the long hour, don't they care? She doesn't have those rules, and yes, she could ask for less hours and no weekends.
There is no recognition that I have sacrificed all my hobbies, sold my car, sold my 4x4, and have no friends or social life, so I am working to pay for the house as her £10/hr job doesn't quite cover any of the bills, and none of what she earns really contributes to our household costs.
Her change of lifestyle is great for her, exactly what she wants to do, and she seems happier - unless I'm in reasonable proximity - but nothing positive comes to me from her, she even told me that I don't do anything - despite every weekend being filled up with a succession of jobs inside and out, and taking care of the kids and all the dogs she has accumulated, just assumes I can do everything, but I get nothing.
We sleep in seperate rooms, which she seems more than happy about - this is because I became convinced she was having an affair, always on her phone, always messaging, never to me, never got a nice word for me, just negativity, criticism, etc. and I confronted her about it (based on having had to go through exactly the same before we met, and found out my partner had been having an affair for 3 years), so we are kind of seperated but in the same house, she even complained that the room I'm in looks more like a bedsit than just somewhere to sleep, since all my things are in there, as she had made enough comments about seeing anything of mine in the house, so I gathered all my stuff and put it in 'my room'.

So, no rules apply to her, all apply to me - she does what she wants, doesn't need to let me know, goes where she likes, and when, we will be in the living room each evening, before she goes upstairs and I go in the hell, but she's not present, as the phone is there the whole time.
I have become more and more withdrawn, less responsive, and now this is being pushed on to me as another negative - why are you so miserable all the time?? Well, I wonder - is it because I am desperately lonely? Is it because I don't know the person on the other side of this room?

I'm really proud of her, how she has completely changed her life from finance to farming, and of the stories she has from her days at work, the things she knows and can do - she's absolutely amazing, but she doesn't seem to care about me at all, no interest in my day, my feelings, thoughts, desires - none of that. There has been no intimacy in three years, nothing at all - not even holding hands or a kiss on a message..
I am so desperately lonely and unhappy, I feel utterly unappreciated (this weekend's "you don't do anything" comment really cemented that) and frankly, if it weren't for my kids, I wouldn't be here today typing this, I would have hung myself in my gym the day she told me we were separated, and she wanted the house in her name only - that very nearly killed me that day, and months of counselling has put me on a more even keel, but even now, two years later, - well, it's still in the forefront of my mind.

OP posts:
Hankunamatata · 23/08/2021 16:01

If you dont want to split start by selling the house. Move into something smaller and more affordable.

gonnabeok · 23/08/2021 16:01

You are doing all the giving, she is doing all the taking. It will not change. she is not the person you thought she was. Please wake up and smell the coffee. First things first, go and get some legal advice re your options. Take details of your income, the value of your house and assets and her income with you. You need to leave this situation. She ended your relationship a long time ago. You need to get your self respect back. You can still be a good parent but not live there.

Have your wages paid into your own account - not a joint account. A solicitor may suggest mediation. You pay £120 for an inital apointment. The govt pay £500 towards other sessions. It is designed to keep couples out of court and to reach a separation agreement without the cost of expensive legal processes.

You must be free to find someone who loves and appreciates you. All that will happen if you stay will be that your mental health will continue to suffer. If you do not have much support in real life look at getting yourself a divorce counsellor to support you through the process. Your children are much better off with a happier dad then one who is depressed and downtrodden. Life is too short to subject yourself to this misery.....

Blue4YOU · 23/08/2021 16:03

This is so sad to read. You are the person who sounds amazing, not her.
As pp say get legal advice and free yourself from this abuse (at the very least it’s emotional and financial abuse)

Tooshytoshine · 23/08/2021 16:05

Leave, heal and start anew.

Your wife has a life she loves, you need to find a life you love too. It isn't with her.

Some people a incredibly self centered and use others to facilitate their own needs and wants. You aren't playing by the same rules in this supposed partnership.

I hope you look back on this in a few years from a position of strength and happiness

fruitbrewhaha · 23/08/2021 16:07

I got as far as the bit about her having an affair and the separate rooms. I didn't need to read any further.

It's over. You need to make plans to leave or for her to leave. See a solicitor and get the ball rolling.

Eclairesarethebest · 23/08/2021 16:07

If it takes time to leave the family home (or her leave whatever you decide) get your wages paid into your own account, don't delay do it today.
Spilt the bills equally and refuse anymore than that - if she can't afford it, then tough she needs to get used to it.
She's using you for your wages; so cut her off.

3luckystars · 23/08/2021 16:09

Go back to your counsellor and get support. Go every week. You don’t need to explain anything to anyone else, if something doesn’t feel right then it’s not right.

Look after yourself. Your children need you to be here so please please get some support to strengthen yourself up and go and have a nice life.

All the very best.

Myla2 · 23/08/2021 16:09

I mean this in the nicest way op

GET A BACKBONE

You are clearly being used and trampled on here. None of this arrangement benefits you and she is walking around taking in all the rewards whilst you suffer.

Even all your op and updates are based around her. Stop making this woman who COULDNT GIVE A FLYING TOSS ABOUT YOU enough to even ask how you are. Start revolving your life around yourself!

Myla2 · 23/08/2021 16:10

*sorry I meant to say stop making her the centre of your world when it isnt reciprocated. It's sad to read.

starfro · 23/08/2021 16:11

She wants you to be the one to split up with her and your failure to do that is just making her more and more miserable and horrible to you.

Leave.

Cakepop9 · 23/08/2021 16:13

This is awful. You have to leave but be smart about it - see a solicitor first and sort yourself out financially and for the kids. Be ready, she sounds like she will go to war and take it all.

baroqueandblue · 23/08/2021 16:19

Please @lostandlonelydad take on board some of the helpful practical and emotional suggestions other posters have offered and put all thoughts of suicide as far from your mind as possible. Your children would be absolutely devastated if they lost you and what's more you deserve another chance to find a partner who will value you for yourself, not what you provide financially. It's very positive and commendable that you sought counselling for yourself when you did and have stayed there while you found some relative inner stability. Please continue to see your counsellor for the time being at least if you know that it helps. Once you make and action some decisions about your future the counselling relationship will help sustain you through any bumpy bits, but more importantly will help keep you focused on the sort of relationship you want to have with your children post-separation & divorce. It really does sound as though you deserve a loving partner who'll reflect back to you the commitment and affection you offer in abundance, but first you must face the tasks of formalising the future arrangements with the children's mother.

I repeat, please value yourself enough to stick around for your own sake and the sakes of your children. If your counsellor doesn't offer much or anything in the way of contact between sessions, please consider making contact with an organisation like CALM or the Samaritans if events bring you to a lower ebb. Reaching out to them can often make a huge difference that gets you through the lowest points.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 23/08/2021 16:21

She doesn't want you around any more.
She doesn't really like you, let alone love you.
The thing about making sure you're excluded from all social events was a real humdinger - she really doesn't want you having anything, does she. :(

She's not nice. She's not amazing. She's being really unkind to the point of cruelty and you need to get out.

How old are your children? You can't "stay for the kids", it's not healthy, especially as it's messing with your mental health to the extent it is. Obviously you'd need to stay relatively close to still see them, but I'm sure once you're out of her control, you'll be able to make friends with other people, as you'll be able to socialise without her say-so.

I hope you can find a way out of this, for yourself and your kids.

Stickyjamhands · 23/08/2021 16:28

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Hummingbird1950 · 23/08/2021 16:32

Why are you putting up with this? Your marriage is dead, she resents your existence, treats you like staff and she's only staying because your earnings fund her chosen lifestyle. She's treating you like dirt and using you for money.

Start tomorrow with getting your hobbies and friendships back, make plans and stick to them, you don't have to cancel because she wants you to do something else.

Use the joint account for the bills but keep some money back for your own enjoyment. She's the one with the low paid job and if you're splitting up she's going to have to get used to living on her wages. Some of her wages should also be going into the joint account for household/family bills. Just because she earns less doesn't mean she should pay nothing.

It's unclear whether she has a smallholding or is a employee on someone else's farm, but either way stop doing odd jobs there. If it's her hobby then let her learn how to do the jobs and if it's her employer then why are you giving up your spare time for free to prevent some farmer having to pay someone else to do their odd jobs?

Talk to the other parents at the school gates and start making friends, spending time socialising with them, playdates for the children etc. You've a right to a social life too. You didn't need to go home from the pub just because she wanted it, you weren't doing anything wrong.

See a solicitor on the quiet and start getting your ducks in a row because she's not going to be happy if you start living life as your own person and not just as her skivvy, so your marriage will get worse because she's not getting what she wants. I also think you're right she's having an affair. It's pretty obvious that she mentally checked out of the marriage years ago.

LimitIsUp · 23/08/2021 16:35

End it

OnceTheyDid · 23/08/2021 16:37

You need to leave OP, you really do. How do you think your children are viewing all this ?

maddening · 23/08/2021 16:40

She is a dick, do what you want to do and let yourself detach from her emotionally. I would get your ducks in a row for divorce and get out, leave her to it imo.

JulesCobb · 23/08/2021 16:42

It sounds like you've already separated. Speak to a Solicitor.

stepupandbecounted · 23/08/2021 16:44

Imagine for a moment that your child is now an adult and having a relationship similar to the one you describe, in a small bedsit room and paying for the privilege of being ignored and treated badly? How would you feel? Happy? Comfortable?

No, I didn't think so.

You deserve to be loved, to have a full life and to feel valued. I would plan slowly to end it, start building up friendships and hobbies now, get your wages paid into your account immediately and start taking control of your life. Your children need to see a father that is confident and happy and not a broken shell of a man. Plan how you are going to do this, and go through with it and tell your family and friends the truth about the last three years. I am not sure they will see her as the 'victim' for much longer.

SwimmingUnderwater · 23/08/2021 16:45

Why on earth are you putting up with this? Just leave her and don’t look back. She sounds truly awful.

BillMasen · 23/08/2021 16:48

Mate, that was tough to read and you’ve had some good advice. It does look like it’s over (or really should be) and she’s treating you as the cash cow to enable her new lifestyle. You’re not on the same team any more.

It’s tough, trust me I know, to split, but I think it’ll be the making of you. You’ll be free, able to find yourself again and your kids will be so much better off if you’re happy (and her too). Life as a divorced dad is different, but ultimately as rewarding so please try and see how good your new life would be.

You’re in a strong position financially so start prepping for it, take some control, as others have said, get your money paid to you (but don’t be a dick about it, you’ll have obligations going forward). Not that it sounds like you would be.

squeaver · 23/08/2021 16:52

I hope you didn't put the house into her name.

JustAnother0ldMan · 23/08/2021 16:53

Oh mate, that’s awful, you’re being used as a wage packet only.
As others say, see a solicitor on the qt and get your divorce going, stay strong in the meantime, stop helping on the farm and put yourself/ kids first, everything @Hummingbird1950 says

Have a pint on me 🍻

Plumtree391 · 23/08/2021 16:55

@JesusIsAnyNameFree

She has fallen out of love and is keeping you around just to pay the bills/deal with the kids. Sorry, OP.
I think that too.
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