Is anyone else considering switching to a life of militant environmentalism

[Saveourearthuk]

Me and DH are absolutely petrified and can no longer in any good conscience collide in the selfish shitshow that is modern life destroying the plannet. We are thinking of in the next few years
-selling most/all of our possessions
-selling the house
-moving to a small shack in the woods
-we would forrage for food and drink from a well
-we would use no modern technology and essentially shun the outside world.
While this might seem radical we are willing to bravely make this sacrifice to save our glorious planet. Is anyone else considering this?

No.

Nope.
Unsure you'd survive/thrive on just foraged food as well....

I don't think that will be practical

No.
Have you much experience of farming/hunting/foraging?

... but I do think that we should all be up in arms about climate change

Go for it.

You do you boo.

If everyone decided to shun the outside world and live in the woods what would we do? How does this benefit the environment or society?
What would you do about heating and cooking? It would no doubt involve more inefficient use of fuel.

Erm, no. Particularly not the “small shack in a wood” bit. And just as a hint, you’re not going to find much food in a well unless you like moss.

No. Where are you planning on living where forging will provide you with a well rounded diet?

I assume you don't have kids.

But how will you access medical help should you or your dh need it?

I don't think there's an issue in doing this a such. I think doing it to the extent you want to do, is unrealistic.

Yeah, go for it

Nah. Until the big companies get their act together even if I lived the rest of my life carbon neutral, it would be pissing in the ocean.

I'll do what I can but I'm not throwing my life away for something that will make fuck all difference in the grand scheme of things.

What impact do you think this will have?

If its just about making you and DP feel better you'd be better off finding a job that pays you to make a difference somehow.

Tbh this sounds a bit selfish. Like it's not your problem. You go hide in the woods and let us deal with the mess, the sick, the elderly, the homeless, the kids...

Tsk tsk.

Amateur. I sold ALL my possesions, I use rhubarb leaves to.make myself a cover for private areas, my home is a cave like thing I dug in the woods myself and fortified it with locally sourced fallen timber. My want to be so so so carbon neutral, was really being tested by my love of internet. By the sheer power of want I managed to create a somewhat telepathic skills so I can now browse online just by thinking about it hard enough.
Now THAT'S carbon neutral.
Also by foraging, you are taking valuable food from wildlife. Shame on you

I just don't get how this works in the UK.

When your clothes can move longer be worn, how are you making new ones? Out of what?

What are you using for heat and cooking?

What about if you chop a finger off? How are you getting health care?

What about replacing shoes? Thermals for winter?

What if your cooking utensils all break? Buckets and cups break for the well?

Who built the well?

Home steaders, usually do have contact with the outside world.

How do you keep the hit in livable condition with no screws, treated wood etc.

How is this saving the planet?

How do you live in a hut on land you don't own. If you own it, you aren't off grid.

I find this fascinating.

@SchrodingersImmigrant

Tsk tsk.

Amateur. I sold ALL my possesions, I use rhubarb leaves to.make myself a cover for private areas, my home is a cave like thing I dug in the woods myself and fortified it with locally sourced fallen timber. My want to be so so so carbon neutral, was really being tested by my love of internet. By the sheer power of want I managed to create a somewhat telepathic skills so I can now browse online just by thinking about it hard enough.
Now THAT'S carbon neutral.
Also by foraging, you are taking valuable food from wildlife. Shame on you

I hope you also weave your own yoghurt...

I hope you also weave your own yoghurt...
Unfortunately not😔 i am fully eartan though. I only eat soil and what i can grow. My cave is very good for mushrooms, which i unfortunately hate😔
Worth the sacrifice tho

YABU

Running away solves nothing

The kinds of radical change we need can only be put in motion by the leaders of the most powerful countries and corporations. We need political activism, economic pressure, boycotts etc. Not people living in the woods while the world burns.

Nah

Presume you are joking, but there are people who live off grid but use technology and solar power etc.

Anyway, it's the big corporations that need to make changes.

I think that is a terrible idea. But if you are committed to changing your lifestyle, then think it through more carefully.

For example, there is a young couple who decided to live completely off their land and things they foraged or caught in the sea. They did it successfully for a year.

www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/pender-island-living-off-the-land-1.6128690

How would selling your house and the things you already have help the environment?

What consequences would you forsee from all 63 million brits moving into the woods and foraging?

On the basis that small shacks in the woods near wells are not readily available, I'd say no! But definitely carry on the other stuff - minimal air travel, no single use plastic, recycle or reuse wherever possible, etc. Don't put plastic grass in your garden! Eat more vegetarian/vegan meals than lest ones.

How is that militant? I don't get it.

I know of someone who tried to do similar. Ended up depending on friends for charity.

A lifestyle you suggest sounds idyllic but would be hard work - imagine a cold, snowy January day. What will you forage? How will you find enough to eat & keep warm. In the past hunter-gatherers migrated to ensure they had a supply of food - following herd migrations etc. How will you provide fuel for cooking etc - true you can coppice trees but what if more of us decide to do same- wouldn't be enough trees to keep us all. Tree wars instead of oil wars? Are you planning seasonal work to earn even a modest income to buy things you need? How will that leave you time to forage for the calories you need to stay alive without vitamin deficiencies etc? What if more of us decide to forage? Plants, fungi, wild game etc would be decimated in no time. Are you going to be like the person I referred to previously - freeloading off friends who have to stay part of modern society so they can support you as well as themselves?

I suppose I'm different from you - I also want to stop climate change, want rewilding, want to preserve/restore the environment, believe we have a responsibility to the Earth & all that lives here - but I put my faith in technology to help do those things.
I want more money put into research for "clean" energy, research into bacteria to clean up water courses, more organic & sustainable agriculture & more permaculture, less factory farming, land reform to make it easier for small, sustainable groups to produce local food for local markets etc. Much better, imo, to campaign & work for those things than try to drop out.

I assume this is what all the protestors next week will be doing