Is anyone else considering switching to a life of militant environmentalism

[Saveourearthuk]

Me and DH are absolutely petrified and can no longer in any good conscience collide in the selfish shitshow that is modern life destroying the plannet. We are thinking of in the next few years
-selling most/all of our possessions
-selling the house
-moving to a small shack in the woods
-we would forrage for food and drink from a well
-we would use no modern technology and essentially shun the outside world.
While this might seem radical we are willing to bravely make this sacrifice to save our glorious planet. Is anyone else considering this?

Do you have/ are you gonna have kids?
Because that would defeat the purpose.

@SchrodingersImmigrant

Tsk tsk.

Amateur. I sold ALL my possesions, I use rhubarb leaves to.make myself a cover for private areas, my home is a cave like thing I dug in the woods myself and fortified it with locally sourced fallen timber. My want to be so so so carbon neutral, was really being tested by my love of internet. By the sheer power of want I managed to create a somewhat telepathic skills so I can now browse online just by thinking about it hard enough.
Now THAT'S carbon neutral.
Also by foraging, you are taking valuable food from wildlife. Shame on you

When we want heat, we rub two squirrels together to make a fire.

OP has gone to live on Fantasy Island.

In answer to your question….no.

If you want to make change find ways to make money off of environmental improvements. Seek the win:win.

Er, no. I would genuinely rather die than do that.

China is busy making products for us. Can't really blame them as we buy it all.

Anyone who suggests foraging for food has never grown their own. I garden but usually a crop of say, beans, carrots would last a few weeks max (if eaten with other foods). You need several fields. Or to seriously drop your daily calories. And the local supply of deer and squirrels would be depleted pretty quickly.

In your shoes I’d go vegan, get rid of the car, recycle, buy any necessary items second hand (eBay, charity shops, car boots) sell existing house and buy small compact home that has the potential to be self sufficient with space to grow veg, polly tunnels, well, have solar panels or small turbine. Also join environmental groups and write to politicians, supermarkets and companies about making changes. Education is critical and so why not consider working with environmental groups to go into schools to educate primary and secondary children about the environment and the small changes they can make as a family

We need to go back to the 50s /60s. But one problem is heating, modern heating heats the house, then it heated one room (albeit often with a coal fire). Food was wrapped in greaseproof paper, brown paper bags, hessian sacks. You walked and cycled more, not many had cars. Bussed to work then walked.
We would still have all modern technology but life would be much slower.
You don't have to live in the woods to improve things.

Well I might be able to if the shack was a reasonable size, with a separate lounge and a large kitchen/diner/family room. Four bedrooms, each with an ensuite.
I'd need a smaller shack for the car, of course it wouldn't use petrol or electricity, I would have the engine and part of the floor removed and 'drive' it like Fred Flintstone.

@Saveourearthuk

Me and DH are absolutely petrified and can no longer in any good conscience collide in the selfish shitshow that is modern life destroying the plannet. We are thinking of in the next few years -selling most/all of our possessions -selling the house -moving to a small shack in the woods -we would forrage for food and drink from a well -we would use no modern technology and essentially shun the outside world. While this might seem radical we are willing to bravely make this sacrifice to save our glorious planet. Is anyone else considering this?

So just looking out for number one then? Go for it, the sooner the better.

Mushrooms? Luxury! We dreamed of having mushrooms. The best we could manage was to suck on a bit of damp moss clawed off the cave wall. But we were lucky.
I can't help what grows in my cave! 😔.be kind, will ya like?

When we want heat, we rub two squirrels together to make a fire.
Fire is horrible for environment! People like you are the reason we are in this situation 😔 When you need heat you eaither get close with your companion or find recently deceased animal to climb imto. Fire👀 oh my😔

no. you lost me at militant.

Hello OP, my husband and I have the same thoughts. However, we have 3 kids to think about. So we are trying to achieve some kind of balance. It’s hard, we feel SO GUILTY when we put out rubbish bins.

I would only consider something to be environmentally friendly and sustainable if everyone could do it

What you are suggesting is not, and you would damage the forest faster than you could replace it

@User112

Hello OP, my husband and I have the same thoughts. However, we have 3 kids to think about. So we are trying to achieve some kind of balance. It’s hard, we feel SO GUILTY when we put out rubbish bins.

Why guilty when you out the bins out?

You are disposing of it properly.

Surely, if you are going to feel guilty. It would be when you are buy the items with packaging?

This is a romantic dream based on the lies told that make you think your individual actions can turn this ship around. Big corporations make waste, produce plastic, destroy the environment, etc, why do we "recycle" so much? I'm not making those items, are you?

-selling most/all of our possessions

Except there may not even much of a market for your possessions nd a lot could end up in landfill. You would be better keeping your possessions and not changing them or buying any more. As there seems to be massive house building at the moment, perhaps you could live in part of your house equivalent to a shack and rent out the rest. You are extremely unlikely to be able to feed yourself by foraging, so would have to hunt as well.

there's a great programme about living in a shack in the middle of the woods, without electricity or plumbing.
If you want to learn about it all watch "Manhunt: Unabomber".

top tip: watch your language

DH and I earn good money and pay taxes. Our taxes keep the lights on, pay wages etc. Also help with the identification of new technologies to assist with global warmingI guess. I certainly can use my vote to direct things in that direction.
The wholesale collapse of society that would result from us all deciding to go off grid is unlikely to do much for the planet in the short term, although I guess a lot of people would die, so that would be good in the end.. as long as it’s not anyone I know and love obviously..!

Have you ever shat in the woods? Try it for a few weeks and see how sustainable it is.

Do it if you want to live in a hut, it might help with the cognitive dissonance but it won’t save the world.

@AccidentallyOnPurpose

Have you ever shat in the woods? Try it for a few weeks and see how sustainable it is.

I actually found it relaxing in my camping days😂 now I am serious. You must dig a hole though otherwise you just end up surrounded by piles of shit😂

I'm absolutely sure that op is joking. I think the "bravely" gives it away somewhat.

Playing along though, I would suggest that there are some major holes in that plan. You can't just build a dwelling anywhere you like. There are rules about that sort of thing and someone is guaranteed to report your shack.

Also if everyone did this I can only imagine the scene. Overcrowding of shacks in woodland and entire cities of empty buildings. Millions of people fighting over well water and the last fungi. That would be very odd and very apocalyptic.

Is that you, Lou?