Nine years for starving a baby to death

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I’m struggling to see the justice here. This sorry specimen will be out in five years no doubt. Devastating.
Teen mother, 19, bursts into tears as she is jailed for nine years

The apologists on this thread make me sick.

She left that poor baby to die so she could socialise and party... For 6 days!!

She did not give a damn. She lied. she knew what she was doing. She should have received a sentence for murder.

She should have received a sentence for murder

She shouldn’t. There was no intent to kill and a trial for murder would have seen her walk free for lack of evidence. I just hope all the other prisoners make her life hell.

I really don't see any relevant mitigating circumstances here. I'm sure her defence team worked hard to get her as lenient a sentence as possible. If she was under duress or being trafficked as some have suggested, you bet the judge would have got to hear about it.

9 years is a big sentence to to give to a teenager even though, personally, I don't think it's long enough. If the judge was in any doubt as to her culpability or mental health she would have got less, or a hospital order.

IMO (as somebody who has lived through a childhood full of the factors people are suggesting Verphy may have been subject to) it's a clean cut case of her being exceptionally selfish and self serving.

That little girl 'cramped her style' and being a mother wasn't conducive to the type of life she wanted to be living, out partying for days on end.

I said the same about being tried for murder yesterday on this thread , but apparently she might have ' got off ' completely if the police had taken this route, which would have made it even harder for people to understand why she didn't end up in prison.
It is the difference between manslaughter and murder and why she was only tried for the former ( according to this thread )

@MiddleAgeWoman, well said 👏🏼 👏🏼

Unless she was seriously mentally challenged (in which case she should've already had the child taken away) even an idiot knows a baby requires food and water to live. Her past isn't an excuse to be lenient. She should be locked up for life for what she did.

This reminds me Declan Hainey, his mother used to leave him alone for days to go and take heroin, he was little more than one year old

www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-15826713.amp

Also has the dad been mentioned?
It's usually teen mum who seems left with baby but dad can bugger off and enjoy life.
Where is the dad in this.

Why are these young girls having babies at all.
What support is in place to guide you them towards terminations because they are too young and unstable to have dc.
Even the most educated, caring, wealthy, supported women find child rearing relentless and tough.
I've seen rich women with several nannies, gardeners, amazing dh as well cry with desperation due to the needs of the dc on them.

Where is the education to tell young girls in general how hard it is to have dc?

It’s absolutely horrendous

The fact she called 999 because the child wasn’t responsive shows some degree of care…. did she intend not to be away for so many days do we think but just become out of it with drink/drugs?
Just can’t imagine what was going through her mind 😞

Also has the dad been mentioned?
It's usually teen mum who seems left with baby but dad can bugger off and enjoy life.
Where is the dad in this.

She was 15 when the baby was conceived, and being sexually exploited from the age of 14.

My guess is the Dad was an abuser who shouldn't have been allowed near a 15 year old vulnerable child never mind a baby.

Also has the dad been mentioned?
It's usually teen mum who seems left with baby but dad can bugger off and enjoy life.
Where is the dad in this.

I get your point as I was a teen parent too, no involvement from the dad, it can be overwhelming and resentment can build. But at the same time, nobody is forced to be a parent- she could've given the child to SS or her family if she really wasn't coping. And considering SS were already involved at some point, she knew this was an option. She was let down herself, but she still had free will at the same time

@NautaOcts

It’s absolutely horrendous

The fact she called 999 because the child wasn’t responsive shows some degree of care…. did she intend not to be away for so many days do we think but just become out of it with drink/drugs?
Just can’t imagine what was going through her mind 😞

@NautaOcts but she didn't call 999 as soon as she got back, she waited 2hrs and tidied up, she didn't check on her child for 2 hrs despite having abandoned them for 6 days! I don't care what went through her mind.

she didn't check on her child for 2 hrs despite having abandoned them for 6 days!

She did check, discovered she was dead and tried to cover her tracks. When the emergency services arrived she lied.

Ah right, thanks @Blossomtoes not much better though.

Also has the dad been mentioned?
It's usually teen mum who seems left with baby but dad can bugger off and enjoy life.
Where is the dad in this

You only have to read one newspaper report to know that she became pregnant aged 15 as a result of sexual exploitation / rape.

That flaming candle true.

If she knew there was help why oh why didn't she use it.

Re 14 year old abused, why did she go onto have the baby.
It beggars belief.

Actually marriane it wasn't clear

I thought that had been suggested but not actually confirmed.

@MichelleScarn

Ah right, thanks *@Blossomtoes* not much better though.

Worse, I reckon.

I wish people wouldn't harp back one thing that made the headlines many years ago

@GreatAuntEmily tough. I will never forget Baby P, Kaylee-Jayde, Asiah, Stanley Davis and all the other defenceless kids killed at the hands of those who were meant to care for them.

www.theguardian.com/society/2009/aug/16/baby-p-family

@Panickingpavlova

That flaming candle true.

If she knew there was help why oh why didn't she use it.

Re 14 year old abused, why did she go onto have the baby.
It beggars belief.

• Living a totally chaotic life and didn't realise she was pregnant was too late
• buried her head in the sand and hoped it would go away
• wanted to go through with it because she thought the dad would stay with her
• thought the baby would be a cool accessory/toy like a doll to dress up and play with. From her photos she abd the girl are well turned out so this is quite probable - and she had no idea how hard parenting is
• she thought it would finally be the first person in her life that would actually love her unconditionally

Just a few thoughts as to why she didn't terminate

Oh why couldn't she have left the child in the care of somebody else? She had no family, but couldn't she have asked for someone from the home to look after her? As I understand it, she was in a home for vulnerable mothers. She doesn't seem to have had the capacity to look after a child, shouldn't somebody else have been helping her?

One thing that I did think spoke volumes was that the leaving of the baby alone seems to have begun only a couple of months before Asiah's death. I wonder if there was some change in her life around this time that precipitated the sudden increase in negligence which culminated on the 11/12 - eg. MH crisis, involvement with gang/county lines activity or more likely a new boyfriend. It seems that she was holding up ok in her parenting until that point (or one would hope she wasn't in an accomodation option which is a stepping stone to independent living) and maybe some external factor has triggered the decline.

I dont understand people saying there was no intent to kill? If someone left an adult tied to a chair in a room for almost a week with no food or water it would show that they wanted them to die. That would be murder wouldnt it?

I can't think what her intent could have been other than for the child to die.

@carriehagshaw maybe she'd originally intended to go for a couple of days then come back - the pattern of previous abandonments have a couple of lengthy absences so maybe as she'd done it before with no obvious physical harm coming to the baby she thought it was fine. And en stayed away longer than the original intention. As each previous absence was discovered by someone else maybe she thought exactly the same would happen again, someone would look after the little girl and she would have to face the consequences when she got back - but as 6 absences didn't lead to thr girl being removed maybe she didn't think any consequences would be severe

Or maybe she just didn't give a fuck

One thing that I did think spoke volumes was that the leaving of the baby alone seems to have begun only a couple of months before Asiah's death. I wonder if there was some change in her life around this time

@DaphneDeloresMoorhead It coincided with the move into her own flat apparently:

“They went to live with Kudi's mother Asiah Batrane but three months before the tragedy - in September 2019 - Kudi and Asiah were moved by the council to a flat in a sheltered residential block for vulnerable families.”

“Kudi settled in well in the flat but the court heard she began to abandon her daughter alone in the flat to meet up with friends and go out to parties.

“In the three months leading up to her death there were at least six other occasions she left Asiah alone in the flat - once for two whole days.”

Full article: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9871273/Teen-mother-19-left-starving-baby-11-times-two-months.html