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auferste · 2021-08-03T15:25:49+00:00

My son is 7 months old, he went to his dads on Saturday overnight and his dad brought him back Sunday afternoon. Today, he messaged saying he can't see DS as he has to self isolate as his younger brother has tested positive for covid. DS would've been in contact with the brother. WIBU to not isolate with him? I live alone so I'd have to Isolate as well and DS is fine.

Trampolean · 04/08/2021 06:38

[quote LunaMuffinTop]@Trampolean going to assume that your just trying to be a goady fucker and probably one of those people who thinks that if something doesn’t have an affect on them then it’s ok to do whatever the hell they like that’s a great attitude to have no wonder we are in such a mess. Your no better than the OP. It’s better that the op and her baby just stay at home for 10 days instead of risking going out and while people won’t be able to catch the virus from a baby op has been round her baby so they could easily pick it up from the OP like I said it’s better to just isolate even if they don’t have the virus is it really worth risking spreading it to other people.[/quote]
Nope, I've isolated everytime I've had to, always taken the recommended precautions and been over cautious if anything, had both vaccines as soon as I could. Of course it's better if they stay home, but the risk of taking baby out in pram is tiny. Also not sure how many times, op doesn't have to isolate which is the rules of....the government!

kittykaty · 04/08/2021 06:48

Delta variant produces 1000 times the viral load of the original strain. Even a tiny baby could be highly infectious! Baby has to isolate!

AngelDelightUk · 04/08/2021 06:54

I was at an event at the weekend which was in a barn. Someone there, who I wasn’t particularly near, has since tested positive. I was pinged on the app, and I’ve self isolated. It means I’m not working so I’m earning no money (again!), my 16 month old DD and baby foster DD/niece will have to stay in, plus my three large breed dogs. It’s making me mad when people don’t abide by the rules, and that includes some who were at the event and aren’t staying in due to not having the app so they weren’t pinged.

Meanwhile for me it’s ten days of no income and occupying a baby, toddler and three Newfoundlands!

Spikeyball · 04/08/2021 06:56

"that’s a great attitude to have no wonder we are in such a mess."

The law says the baby should stay in, the mother can do as everyone else does. We are not "in this mess" because people who are meant to be self isolating have been out for walks keeping away from other people. It's only not allowed because some people don't social distance and won't not mix with others. If you want to apportion blame look at things like the mixing at Christmas which was legally allowed.
Come the 16th you are going have to start using some common sense with your behaviour.

Pootle40 · 04/08/2021 07:10

Don't test a 7 month old baby. What is the world coming to.

NatalieH2220 · 04/08/2021 07:25

You know they've been in contact so either test him or isolate.

I have an 8m old and I wouldn't want to get him tested either so I would therefore isolate instead. Why risk spreading it?

Sounds like an opportunity to break the habit of only napping in a pushchair so may even help you out in the long run.

User5827372728 · 04/08/2021 07:28

I think we are in this ‘mess’ because 2/3s of people are asymptomatic.

So if I currently have covid but don’t know, in the last few days I’ve been to the gym, changing rooms, cinema, swimming, nursery pick up and drop off, my parents house and food shopping. That’s a lot of people I’ve been near

roses2 · 04/08/2021 07:31

@AngelDelightUk

I was at an event at the weekend which was in a barn. Someone there, who I wasn’t particularly near, has since tested positive. I was pinged on the app, and I’ve self isolated. It means I’m not working so I’m earning no money (again!), my 16 month old DD and baby foster DD/niece will have to stay in, plus my three large breed dogs. It’s making me mad when people don’t abide by the rules, and that includes some who were at the event and aren’t staying in due to not having the app so they weren’t pinged.

Meanwhile for me it’s ten days of no income and occupying a baby, toddler and three Newfoundlands!

You are not legally obliged to isolate so why put yourself through misery if you are don't have to? You didn't go near this person.

MangosteenSoda · 04/08/2021 07:42

OP doesn’t need to isolate because she wasn’t in contact with the brother.

If the problem is baby naptime, I’d definitely put baby in a pram and push him around outdoors. No shops, no groups, no people. Very easy to keep the baby isolated in practice, keep his sleep and keep your sanity. I had a non sleeper apart from being in a constantly moving pram and don’t know how I would have survived 10 days inside with him. And that’s not an exaggeration.

We have now just finished isolating. DC is now 6 and autistic which in our case explains why the baby days were so extreme. I took a lateral flow every day and upon receiving the negative, took my son for a drive to calm him down. Round and round the block and isolated from others.

I know this is a 1st degree crime in MN land, but it’s probably the only thing that actually kept us away from other people. If my son had been locked in the house for 10 days, he would have injured himself trying to break out/flinging himself around and would have probably ended up needing an intervention.

Sometimes you need to apply a bit of common sense to your situation. The rules are a blunt instrument because the government assumes people cannot be sensible. The thing is, the people who cannot be relied on to be sensible, will also break all the rules anyway and not care about it.

miltonj · 04/08/2021 08:07

@AngelDelightUk

I was at an event at the weekend which was in a barn. Someone there, who I wasn’t particularly near, has since tested positive. I was pinged on the app, and I’ve self isolated. It means I’m not working so I’m earning no money (again!), my 16 month old DD and baby foster DD/niece will have to stay in, plus my three large breed dogs. It’s making me mad when people don’t abide by the rules, and that includes some who were at the event and aren’t staying in due to not having the app so they weren’t pinged.

Meanwhile for me it’s ten days of no income and occupying a baby, toddler and three Newfoundlands!

Wow, extreme and unnecessary.

Spikeyball · 04/08/2021 08:14

" I took a lateral flow every day and upon receiving the negative, took my son for a drive to calm him down. Round and round the block and isolated from others."

I did the same a couple of weeks ago and with the full approval of ds's social worker who agreed it wasn't realistic or safe to keep ds in for 10 days and I should do what I thought was necessary in terms of drives and walks to keep him safe. Our entire life is about balancing risks and this situation was no different.

MiddleParking · 04/08/2021 08:52

@AngelDelightUk

I was at an event at the weekend which was in a barn. Someone there, who I wasn’t particularly near, has since tested positive. I was pinged on the app, and I’ve self isolated. It means I’m not working so I’m earning no money (again!), my 16 month old DD and baby foster DD/niece will have to stay in, plus my three large breed dogs. It’s making me mad when people don’t abide by the rules, and that includes some who were at the event and aren’t staying in due to not having the app so they weren’t pinged.

Meanwhile for me it’s ten days of no income and occupying a baby, toddler and three Newfoundlands!

You really don’t need to self isolate and lose ten days income because of an app ping. Don’t make that choice for yourself or for your kids and dogs.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 04/08/2021 09:38

@MiddleParking

Don’t make that choice for yourself or for your kids and dogs.

Maybe make 'that choice' to prevent someone vulnerable catching it and dying!?

curlyLJ · 04/08/2021 09:54

@MangosteenSoda

OP doesn’t need to isolate because she wasn’t in contact with the brother.

If the problem is baby naptime, I’d definitely put baby in a pram and push him around outdoors. No shops, no groups, no people. Very easy to keep the baby isolated in practice, keep his sleep and keep your sanity. I had a non sleeper apart from being in a constantly moving pram and don’t know how I would have survived 10 days inside with him. And that’s not an exaggeration.

We have now just finished isolating. DC is now 6 and autistic which in our case explains why the baby days were so extreme. I took a lateral flow every day and upon receiving the negative, took my son for a drive to calm him down. Round and round the block and isolated from others.

I know this is a 1st degree crime in MN land, but it’s probably the only thing that actually kept us away from other people. If my son had been locked in the house for 10 days, he would have injured himself trying to break out/flinging himself around and would have probably ended up needing an intervention.

Sometimes you need to apply a bit of common sense to your situation. The rules are a blunt instrument because the government assumes people cannot be sensible. The thing is, the people who cannot be relied on to be sensible, will also break all the rules anyway and not care about it.

This!

The whole Covid issue has literally stopped people from being able to think for themselves and make a LOGICAL decision and weigh up actual risk.

The baby isn't going to be standing around having conversations with anyone, he is in the pram.
OP go for walks, but obviously not into crowded areas/baby groups.

I took my 7yo DD out for isolated walks in the forest when her class bubble burst, for the sake of our mental health!

LibrariesGiveUsPower45321 · 04/08/2021 10:10

Yes your baby has to isolate. You don’t, but I can’t imagine it’d be safe for you to go out and leave baby at home alone. You never know what booby traps he might set up whilst you’re out.

RealBecca · 04/08/2021 10:17

How would you feel if someone knowingly came into contact with your son knowing they had been in close contact with a case?

MiddleParking · 04/08/2021 11:23

[quote GreenFingersWouldBeHandy]@MiddleParking

Don’t make that choice for yourself or for your kids and dogs.

Maybe make 'that choice' to prevent someone vulnerable catching it and dying!?[/quote]
Or maybe don’t, since in 12 days time you wouldn’t be expected to anyway and that poster openly says she wasn’t even really near the positive case? Losing ten days income and isolating yourself, two young kids and three Newfoundlands should be an absolute last resort, not something you do just to be on the safe side and gain approval on mumsnet. People are going to need to start employing some common sense.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 04/08/2021 12:05

@MiddleParking

I give up. You are a selfish idiot.

gain approval on mumsnet

I don't give a flying crap about approval on Mumset. I care about being 'on the safe side' and NOT infecting people with a disease that is now avoidable if people actually bother to self-isolate when their child has been exposed to it and is therefore a potential carrier.

And a lot can change in 12 days.

I"m out of this pointless conversation.

MiddleParking · 04/08/2021 12:33

[quote GreenFingersWouldBeHandy]@MiddleParking

I give up. You are a selfish idiot.

gain approval on mumsnet

I don't give a flying crap about approval on Mumset. I care about being 'on the safe side' and NOT infecting people with a disease that is now avoidable if people actually bother to self-isolate when their child has been exposed to it and is therefore a potential carrier.

And a lot can change in 12 days.

I"m out of this pointless conversation.[/quote]
You’re about 17 months too late for ‘selfish idiot’ shouts to be effective. You’ve got less than a fortnight to wrap your head around the end of close contact self isolation, you might still manage it if you start working on it now.

Pinkandpink · 06/08/2021 10:52

LondonJax
Oh that’s quite worrying. My son 11 had a bad sneezing fit the other day. I just put it down to visiting a relatives kittens.

megletthesecond · 06/08/2021 10:57

I would not go to shops but I'd go for a walk somewhere quiet with the pushchair once a day. Just do LFT's.
(Disclaimer, double masker and still haven't been to a gym or restaurant in 18 months but think outdoor transmission is low risk).

AveryGoodlay · 06/08/2021 13:35

Even when it isn't a legal requirement my family and I will be isolating because we care about other people. I work in care and wouldn't want to put anyone at risk. One lady has not had the vaccine as she doesn't want it.

Aside from that people seem to forget that whilst adults can access the vaccine, children can't and may children fall into the critically extremely vulnerable group.

OP whether you do or do not isolate is going to come down to what type of person you are. I've been a single parent, one of my children had health issues which meant we were all stuck inside together for a lot longer than 10 days. My advice is plan your days, keep them structured and have a routine. That is as much for you as well as the children.

What we all do now and across the next few weeks is crucial. I don't believe we've had the last of our lockdown. I also think if there is/are other lockdowns people will riot.

AveryGoodlay · 06/08/2021 13:41

Please at least do LFTs on both of you every morning if you refuse to isolate. That would be better than nothing.

Obviously if either of you have symptoms you'll need to do a PCR instead asap.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 06/08/2021 14:04

I was going to say further up- if you’re going to go out, go for walks in quiet, isolated spots (hopefully you drive?) or at early and late times rather than going to shops or anywhere in doors/ where you’ll come into contact with people.

There are ways of effectively isolating without staying in your house.