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To want to know if my Dad’s dead to stop his stepdaughter getting my inheritance?

196 replies

AbandonedDaughter · 31/07/2021 17:02

Sounds horrible I know!

My father left when I was young. Refused to pay any maintenance despite coming into a very large lump sum shortly after my parents divorce and promptly married someone else who had a daughter of a similar age to me. We had no further contact after that and I never met his new wife or her daughter.

When he finally met again in my late 30’s he told me that his stepdaughter was his first priority as she’d been in his life for longer Hmm. She was preparing to get married at that time and he all he talked about was her wedding. That was extremely hurtful as he wasn’t at mine. He didn’t seem remorseful that he’d left me with my mother, who was abusive as he knew very well as that was his reason for leaving! He didn’t seem interested in the impact it had on me and just wanted to move on and forget the past.

I tried to get past it and wanted him to meet my DC so they’d know their grandfather but it was very difficult as contact was sporadic and we didn’t seem able to build a proper relationship. Too much time gone and we were strangers. He didn’t even get me a birthday card in the time we were in contact.

He then told me, when I told him about my mother’s abuse, that my mother had told him I wasn’t his. I kind of hoped I wasn’t (I couldn’t believe I could be related to someone who abandoned their kid) so wanted to do a DNA test before we went any further and he met my DC. He refused as apparently he didn’t want to think I might not be Hmm so I decided to cut him out if he couldn’t even do that simple thing for me. He was the one who put that doubt in my head anyway!

The last time we spoke I asked him for a picture of his mother, my grandmother, as my mother had always compared me to her (very disparagingly) and I wanted to see what she looked like. He said he’d send me one (via messenger, he didn’t even have make the effort to post it!) but 3 months later he still hadn’t so I blocked him.

That was 2 years ago and I had occasionally looked him up on Facebook as he was a regular poster. Just to check he was still alive.

A few months ago, I noticed his Facebook profile had disappeared, can’t be because he suddenly decided to block me, as I have used other people’s account to look him up. His Facebook account is definitely gone. I noticed on his stepdaughter’s account, she posts lots about having bad days etc, that people were asking how she’s coping with her ‘loss’ and she hasn’t posted anything about him for months. Her mother died a few years ago.

I am assuming he’s dead. He was a drinker and smoker, mid 70’s. Could have been Covid related. I can’t find a death record as you need date of death and where and I don’t know that.

I have never spoken to his stepdaughter and don’t want to now. She would inherit all his money I assume and this makes me quite angry. She wouldn’t be able to contact me unless through Facebook to tell me he’s dead, and she may not have because of the inheritance. Not that it’s her fault but she had his investment in time and money for years which should have been mine. I suffered greatly, financially and having a shit childhood with my mother due to him not being there. Her mother was a single mum when they met and they opened a business together with my fathers money.

AIBU to feel like this?

Any ideas on how I can find out if he’s dead without contacting her? I’ve googled death notices in his local paper but it wouldn’t necessarily have been in there.

OP posts:
Bahhhhhumbug · 31/07/2021 19:02

Even if he died intestate wife trumps adult children unless the estate is worth more than a certain amount then the balance above whatever that amount is (not sure, used to be 200k l think) is divided among children then survinig parents , then siblings (l think that's the order)

AnneShirleysNewDress · 31/07/2021 19:02

www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

This site will let you search death records in England and Wales if that's where he lived.

SionnachRua · 31/07/2021 19:03

I can't see why OP shouldn't go after money as part of moving on tbqh (assuming that she's able to). People will say "it's only money" but that money could help set her up with counselling to process what her father did to her. Of course it could be upsetting for stepdaughter but the blame for that upset comes back to OP's dad abandoning her all those years ago.

SionnachRua · 31/07/2021 19:05

Having said that, I'd advise OP to think carefully before going down this road because it could become very costly and he may well have nothing. But I have no issue with her trying to get a chunk of his assets, whatever they may be.

kirinm · 31/07/2021 19:05

@ConsuelaHammock

If he never adopted her then you’re his next of kin. If you’re not mentioned at all in his will then I think you would have a case to contest it. Try to find a copy of the will first. I don’t blame you for wanting his money.
No she wouldn't. If he has no will then the intestacy rules will apply and she would be entitled to money. If there is a will that doesn't name her, she doesn't.
SeasonFinale · 31/07/2021 19:08

@imamule

You need to see the will & see the wording. You can make a claim though if left out of the will.
No she can't as she hasn't been maintained by him
Sweetchocolatecandy · 31/07/2021 19:09

If he told you that his step-daughter was his priority and he was all wrapped up in her wedding etc the chances are he has left everything to her, which is why you haven’t heard anything. Surely you would have been contacted by probate if he had left you anything?

AllTheSingleLadiess · 31/07/2021 19:10

The rules are different in Scotland and England. I'm not a legal bod but I've been here long enough to know that's the case so some of the advice might not be appropriate.

I hope that you manage to find the will so you can get closer to a resolution. Thanks

imamule · 31/07/2021 19:11

@SeasonFinale she can make a claim

BertramLacey · 31/07/2021 19:11

You only need a rough year of birth to able to find whether a death is registered. Use the link AnneShirley posted. You can then use GRO to order a copy death certificate for £11. (Assuming he's UK based).

I do think you perhaps need some kind of therapy to help you let this go. He has prioritised his stepdaughter over you. I cannot imagine why he did this or how much it must hurt. But unless he died intestate there's little you can do, and if he did die intestate you would just have a fight on your hands that could get you nowhere.

HedgeVeg · 31/07/2021 19:12

No one is entitled to an inheritance. Ever.

My Dad is similar to yours, and actually did far worse.
It's shit and he's a shit person, but if he died I wouldn't feel any entitlement of his money.
If anything, I wouldn't want a penny from him as I'd like to be connected to him as little as possible.

Try and turn around your feelings on the matter - you don't need his help or his money, live your life entirely free of him.

imamule · 31/07/2021 19:12

She may not win & it will certainly cost but disinheriting biological children can be quite complicated.

Callingallskeletons · 31/07/2021 19:13

Jesus OP it’s a shit situation and I truly feel for you and everything you’ve been through - but try to think about it from her perspective, As far as she was concerned he WAS her dad - he may not have even told her you were ever back in contact (and if you blocked him over 2 years ago I’m not sure you can claim you were tbh) so as far as she knew the pair of you hadn’t spoken in decades

You have no idea what she may have dealt with during his final years, was she caring for him? Maybe he had treatment etc that she was taking him to/from and supporting him through - I don’t think it’s fair to assume she’s just living it up on his “money”

Im afraid the “blame” here is to be laid with your DF, not his stepdaughter

RedToothBrush · 31/07/2021 19:15

Im saying that if he didn't have a will, then someone will still do the probate...

... And she would have had to have been contacted legally in that scenario.

The step daughter will know of the OPs existence and legally if the OPs parents were married at the time of the OPs birth then the father denying paternity wouldnt mean shit and the burden would be on the step daughter to prove that the OP wasn't his or was dead. Or would have to lie. If she was even entitled to his estate in the first place which isn't a given.

Now maybe the step daughter has gone down this route - but unless she was legally adopted by him, she wouldn't have an automatic claim to the estate either if there is no will, especially if her mother died before her step father.

In that scenario I find it hard to believe that heir hunters / lawyers wouldn't be involved if theres an estate of any value, because the emphasis would be to prove he didn't have children (which wouldn't be hard to find out on marriage certs). Ironically in this situation the step daughter may be in a position where she would make formal arrangements such as funeral, but wouldn't legally be a beneficiary of anything anyway.

If he did formally adopt the step daughter, then the OP is making the assumption that the step daughter has lied. Thats a series of assumptions with no basis in facts the OP has.

The OP at this stage doesn't even know if her father is dead never mind if there is an estate / probate issues.

Besides this, just cos she may be entitled in the absence of a will, it doesn't mean the op is justified in crashing in like a bull in a china shop to 'fuck over her father' in a petulant manner that only has the guarantee of causing pain.

It all comes back to the OP wanting to put the boot in with innocent parties which will make fuck all difference to her father. And have no guarantee of any financial benefit anyway.

Onehotmess · 31/07/2021 19:19

I’d stop worrying about the money. For all you know, he could have pi**ed all his money up the wall. I’d just message the SD and say. ‘ I haven’t heard from my Dad for a while, is everything ok?’

imamule · 31/07/2021 19:20

@RedToothBrush who knows what the stepdaughter is thinking. If the OPs father has died I think it's incredibly odd that the stepdaughter hasn't informed the OP.

IndiaMay · 31/07/2021 19:22

@beigebrownblue that find a will is interesting. Is everyones grant of probate listed? I'm not seeing something I expected to

Angelofchaos · 31/07/2021 19:24

[quote imamule]@RedToothBrush who knows what the stepdaughter is thinking. If the OPs father has died I think it's incredibly odd that the stepdaughter hasn't informed the OP. [/quote]
She might not even know ops name.

She may have been asked by the ops dad, not to since op cut him off.

There could be lots of reasons She hasn't contacted op. Including that he may not be actually dead.

No point assigning any motive to her actions as op has no clue about her motives at all.

imamule · 31/07/2021 19:24

Besides this, just cos she may be entitled in the absence of a will, it doesn't mean the op is justified in crashing in like a bull in a china shop to 'fuck over her father' in a petulant manner that only has the guarantee of causing pain.

She doesn't need to crash in like a bull in a china shop but if she's entitled she's entitled. Regardless how delicate she handles that it will still cause pain.

imamule · 31/07/2021 19:26

@Angelofchaos I don't disagree hence why my answer to the other poster was "who knows what the stepdaughter is thinking" because none of us know the motives.

KindnessMyFriends · 31/07/2021 19:27

@RedToothBrush

Im saying that if he didn't have a will, then someone will still do the probate...

... And she would have had to have been contacted legally in that scenario.

The step daughter will know of the OPs existence and legally if the OPs parents were married at the time of the OPs birth then the father denying paternity wouldnt mean shit and the burden would be on the step daughter to prove that the OP wasn't his or was dead. Or would have to lie. If she was even entitled to his estate in the first place which isn't a given.

Now maybe the step daughter has gone down this route - but unless she was legally adopted by him, she wouldn't have an automatic claim to the estate either if there is no will, especially if her mother died before her step father.

In that scenario I find it hard to believe that heir hunters / lawyers wouldn't be involved if theres an estate of any value, because the emphasis would be to prove he didn't have children (which wouldn't be hard to find out on marriage certs). Ironically in this situation the step daughter may be in a position where she would make formal arrangements such as funeral, but wouldn't legally be a beneficiary of anything anyway.

If he did formally adopt the step daughter, then the OP is making the assumption that the step daughter has lied. Thats a series of assumptions with no basis in facts the OP has.

The OP at this stage doesn't even know if her father is dead never mind if there is an estate / probate issues.

Besides this, just cos she may be entitled in the absence of a will, it doesn't mean the op is justified in crashing in like a bull in a china shop to 'fuck over her father' in a petulant manner that only has the guarantee of causing pain.

It all comes back to the OP wanting to put the boot in with innocent parties which will make fuck all difference to her father. And have no guarantee of any financial benefit anyway.

I don't think OP wants to 'put the boot in on innocent parties'. She just wants her fair share of an inheritance from a father who has damaged her badly by treating her in a cruel manner. I hope you get what is yours OP. I'm sorry your father has been so unkind to you and I wish you good luck and happiness for your future. 🍀
Soontobe60 · 31/07/2021 19:28

@AbandonedDaughter

I don’t feel resentment to her as obviously she had no control over my father marrying her mother. I would be very angry if he is dead and she hasn’t informed me so she can keep his money though!

I suppose it’s not her responsibility to inform me, but surely you would try to seeing as she knows we were in contact? That would be the decent thing to do? Although I don’t know what he told her of course.

I’m not even sure if he legally adopted her as in that case everything would go to her and I wouldn’t have a legal claim anyway.

I suppose if he wrote a will leaving it to her, I wouldn’t have a claim anyway?

You said you cut all contact with him after he refused to do a DNA test. Maybe he told his Sd to not inform you of his death. If he had a will, you would not get anything if you weren’t mentioned in it.
butterpuffed · 31/07/2021 19:30

[quote imamule]@RedToothBrush who knows what the stepdaughter is thinking. If the OPs father has died I think it's incredibly odd that the stepdaughter hasn't informed the OP. [/quote]
She may not know of Op's existence.

imamule · 31/07/2021 19:31

and equally she may, we don't know!

Angelofchaos · 31/07/2021 19:32

[quote imamule]@Angelofchaos I don't disagree hence why my answer to the other poster was "who knows what the stepdaughter is thinking" because none of us know the motives. [/quote]
But then you don't know. You has assigned the step daughters lack of action as odd. It may not be.

That's my point. How can it be odd, if op doesn't even know if he is dead. She is assuming because his Facebook is gone and the strap daughter might have lost somebody close to her.

My brother closed his Facebook the week before my friend killed herself. If someone had tied those 2 things together and assumed dbro was dead I would be baffled.