Would a £50 McDonalds voucher encourage people to have the jab?

[KhalliWhalli]

This is my colleague’s proposed solution to the issue of anti-vaxxers and others who don’t want to have the jab. He figures that as these people are generally of low intelligence, they fit the demographic of people who eat McDonald’s. Ergo if you bribe them with a £50 McDonald’s voucher at the time of vaccination, you would have hordes of people turning up for their jab.

He has a professional interest in this, so I have given it a bit more thought than I would usually.

I dunno, what do you guys think?

[quote Ilovechinese]@Kendodd because I do not want to take an experimental jab that has been known to cause blood clots and other conditions. If I wanted the jab I would have it, I wouldn't need to be bribed and blackmailed into it. It should be peoples ien free choice if they want it or not.[/quote]
do you ever get in a car.. uk road stats
There were 24,470 killed or seriously injured
casualties (KSIs) in reported road trafc accidents
reported to the police, for the year ending June 2020.
This is a statistically signifcant decrease of 11%
compared to the year ending June 2019 (27,471).
• The total number of casualties of all levels of
severity decreased by 16% to 131,220.
Vaccine stats
399 cases of blood clots are after an estimated 24.6 million first doses, and 21.5 million second doses of the vaccine. Of the 399 people who developed blood clots, 71 died.

I feel like everyone should have a right to choose. Having the views I have about animal welfare, I’ve definitely been subjected to some abuse about this, so I have sympathy for anyone struggling to have the vaccine for whatever reason. We need to respect each other.

Presently, the jab scares me more than anything else. Shitty food offer? Not good enough.
But if my cruise holiday would go ahead as planned - i'd think about it.

Utterly disgraceful. Many people that will not have the jab are basing it on research. Personally I had the vaccine but mu brother will not. He has pointed out that based on age and general health he is highly unlikely to suffer seriously from covid. However whilst the jabs have low risks his in the age category where they are the highest risk. He feels why should he put a drug n his body with possible longterm side effects that are still not known. His always been fitness conscious and wouldn't touch a McDonald's if his life depended on it. I only has mine to make it easier to travel then the bloody holiday was cancelled anyway. My kids however will not be having the vaccine until more is known about the risks because one child already has a heart condition I do not want to chance the vaccine making it worse.

So she’s planning to encourage people to do something that is supposed to be good for the general health of the population by giving them something that supports bad health habits. What next? Encouraging people to stop smoking by giving them bottles of vodka?

The people I know who aren’t are mainly saying ‘I won’t put junk I don’t know about in my body’. For them that includes McDonald’s

He’s an idiot. The people that i know that don’t vaccinate in general, I dint mean just covid are intelligent people. No amount of money or bribes could convince them to vaccinate themselves or their children.

@Dogvmarmot that’s a terrible analogy. Most car accidents are the result of someone doing something reckless, be it speeding, drinking and driving, texting and driving, driving too tired, crossing the road at an unsafe place or without looking, not wearing a helmet when cycling, etc, etc. For a true comparison you’d have to remove all of those who were somehow at fault, even pedestrians, cyclists, etc and use the stats of only those who were completely “innocent” and the true accidents (such as a heart attack or stroke at the wheel). With the COVID shot there is nothing you can do to mitigate the risk. It’s not a case of “oh well the blood clot wouldn’t have happened if you had done it like this” as can be said of many accidents.

And using road accidents kind of proves the opposite point. Young healthy people are far more likely to be in a car accident than die of COVID. That’s why many feel the vaccine is unnecessary.

That's disgraceful. I have a Masters degree and a PHD, currently pregnant with my second and won't be having the vaccine until my baby is here. I have done an antibody test and have antibodies after having Covid a year ago.

I find this threat very insulting. I have chosen not to have the vaccine because it's still a trial vaccine until 2023, with no pregnant women having been tested on either. No one knows the long term effects it will have had on a foetus in 3, 5, 7 years etc.

Surely it'd make them even more resistant to it?

The coercion (won't be allowed anywhere without vaccine) is certainly pushing me further from the vaccine.

It makes me even more skeptical.

I'm also a medical professional so I'm not stupid.

In my surroundings it's intelligent people who follow alternative medicine /nutrition as medicine advice and they won't be bothered with fast food vouchers.

These people aren't of low intelligence though. A lot of medical professionals are refusing to have the jab until more side effects become clear. This isn't unintelligent - in fact, given the side effects that are being discovered, I think it's very intelligent. How sad it is that people are so cruel and bitter over this issue. It's truly divided people to the point that people who want to be cautious are being bulliwd and insulted. So sad. Your post is really awful and your colleague sounds like a really ignorant person.

FYI, if you contact any of the vaccine providers directly and query side effects, the staff you speak to will openly tell you that the vaccine is experimental. I know a woman who deveoped GBS as a direct side effect from the vaccine (yes, confirmed by doctors) and she was told this.

Doesn't seem so unintelligent to hold back from being part of an experiment, in my opinion.

(Also not unintelligent here, medical anthropologist background.)

Well as I had to be done for my job, both were my days off and I had to travel in to work do so, paying me for my time would have been a nice touch.
But then as I've been traveling in on my days off to do covid tests for over a year, at a dictated time so my day has to run around that, and don't get paid for that either, I don't know why I'd expect any different.

I think a bit more education and information around it and maybe an incentive to pay expenses or a little give away with each jab, not a McDonald's voucher, not everyone who hasn't got the jab is a burger munching thicko.

@Maggiemay92

These people aren't of low intelligence though. A lot of medical professionals are refusing to have the jab until more side effects become clear. This isn't unintelligent - in fact, given the side effects that are being discovered, I think it's very intelligent. How sad it is that people are so cruel and bitter over this issue. It's truly divided people to the point that people who want to be cautious are being bulliwd and insulted. So sad. Your post is really awful and your colleague sounds like a really ignorant person.

Agree entirely

BIL is a GP partner and he hasn't had the vaccine. Not all people who haven't been jabbed are of low intelligence and its really poor form to infer this.

Surely not questioning anything you're told shows less intelligence anyway?

Why should people who don’t want it benefit though? It seems like it’s rewarding them for not wanting it?

A £50 McDonald's voucher is insulting. A £200 "love to shop" voucher would be much better. Plus entry into a competition to win more. Much easier than arguing and debating with people who won't listen to reason. I do have some sympathy with people who are afraid of needles etc but those that are spreading and repeating misinformation online from dubious sources generally are of low intelligence, yes. Those of them that claim to be "health care providers" usually turn out on further prompting to be homeopathic medicine providers or reiki practitioners or the like.

@NotJustACigar

A £50 McDonald's voucher is insulting. A £200 "love to shop" voucher would be much better. Plus entry into a competition to win more. Much easier than arguing and debating with people who won't listen to reason. I do have some sympathy with people who are afraid of needles etc but those that are spreading and repeating misinformation online from dubious sources generally are of low intelligence, yes. Those of them that claim to be "health care providers" usually turn out on further prompting to be homeopathic medicine providers or reiki practitioners or the like.

I don’t agree!

Why should they get a £200 "love to shop" voucher would be much better. If this happened there would be outrage. I can imagine social media now!

It’s like the good children in the class having nothing and the naughty ones being bribed with gifts to be good. All it would do is cause resentment in the well behaved kids.

I can see the thought behind it but it comes across as rewarding bad behaviour and I honestly think it will cause such outrage amongst those who did it with no resistance, no bribe etc.

@allthestripeys

I wouldn't take the 50 voucher for McDonald's as a giveaway for nothing never mind for not getting the vaccine. I have been educated to masters level and I have two degrees. Oh and I work in pharmaceuticals. I have opted not to get it...I know doctors, nurses and several well educated ppl who have not/will not be having the vaccine.

Your first sentence makes no sense; odd for someone with your level of education.

I pretty much only know doctors and nurses. Not a vaccine-refuser amongst them.

@Vitallyli

In my surroundings it's intelligent people who follow alternative medicine /nutrition as medicine advice and they won't be bothered with fast food vouchers.

I agree. In Australia, children can't attend childcare unvaccinated (childhood vaccines, not covid) and their parents can lose a portion of the equivalent of tax credits. This mainly impacts low income disorganised parents who just hadn't got around to it. Many unvaccinated children are middle class with a stay at home parent, usually the natural parenting types, so 'no jab, no play/pay' does not affect them.

It's similar with the other people I know who are not vaccinated against covid, they avoid things like McDonald's.

I would do a lottery system. Chance to win big cash prizes once you have had your second jab.

I know doctors, nurses and several well educated ppl who have not/will not be having the vaccine.

Yet everyone I know, including medical professionals (apart from SIL and her family, none of whom are very well educated) has been vaccinated.

I doubt it. The jab is free and easily obtainable. People who don't have it are either acting on principle (anti-vaxxers) or suffering from something that prevents them having it, whether that be a chronic physical illness or a MH issue that affects functioning. A voucher isn't going to change that.

If the government did go down the voucher route, they'd be better choosing something universally spendable - those 'Love to Shop' vouchers, for example. Not everyone likes McDonalds, especially not to the tune of spending £50 there, and it might be totally useless to someone with food allergies, cultural dietary restrictions etc.

Finally, when obesity has been recognised as a major issue in our Covid struggle, vouchers for any fast food outlet would seem a bad idea.

Perhaps they could have a range of choices

McJab is brilliant

M and S .. This is not just any jab this is an M and S jab

John Lewis Never knowingly under jabbed

Tesco Every little jab helps

etc. etc.