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To filibuster or not to filibuster? Biden needs to get a move on before Doofus Duck waddles back into the swamp (Biden-Trump Thread #128)

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 24/07/2021 17:17

Still waiting for the kraken to appear.

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 10/09/2021 10:52

It looks as if Stephanie Grisham is another one who has realised that the Trumps don't do loyalty, and she'd be a fool to have any for them.

lionheart · 10/09/2021 12:49

The covid numbers, especially for children, are awful.

Lweji · 10/09/2021 13:38

The White House on Wednesday said it had sent letters to Trump appointees to the Board of Visitors for the Air Force, Military, and Naval Academies, including prominent allies of the former president like Kellyanne Conway and Sean Spicer, requesting that they resign or be dismissed.'

They were still there? Shock

Lweji · 10/09/2021 13:40

North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un showed off what many observers believed was a much slimmer figure

Probably covid.

DuncinToffee · 10/09/2021 15:35

Or food shortages

I remember reading a little while back that N Korea is facing a severe food crisis.

Lweji · 10/09/2021 16:05

For everybody else, I'd think.

PerkingFaintly · 10/09/2021 16:27

Just dropping this here, because it's Frank Gardner agreeing with much of my post at 23-Aug-21 10:18:06 – but with rather more detail and better prose.

Afghanistan crisis: Five lessons learned (or not) since 9/11
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-58502199

lionheart · 10/09/2021 21:43

Okay then. Smile

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/eleanor-holmes-norton-zebras_n_613b7828e4b0628d095ae4fe?ri18n=true

'Congresswoman Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.) on Friday denied responsibility for setting six zebras free in a D.C. suburb, but said she wished them well.

“Local news has reported that the zebras were let loose on Saturday or Sunday of last weekend, a period of time during which I was enjoying quiet time at home with family,” Norton said in a statement. “My alibi is solid.”'

lionheart · 10/09/2021 21:45

More seriously, this is grim.

www.nytimes.com/2021/09/10/world/asia/drone-isis-kabul-civilians.html

'KABUL, Afghanistan — It was the last known missile fired by the United States in its 20-year war in Afghanistan, and the military called it a “righteous strike” — a drone attack after hours of surveillance on Aug. 29 against a vehicle that American officials thought contained an ISIS bomb and posed an imminent threat to troops at Kabul’s airport.

But a New York Times investigation of video evidence, along with interviews with more than a dozen of the driver’s co-workers and family members in Kabul, raises doubts about the U.S. version of events, including whether explosives were present in the vehicle, whether the driver had a connection to ISIS, and whether there was a second explosion after the missile struck the car.'

PerkingFaintly · 11/09/2021 01:22

Yes, can't read the NYT article (paywall) but I saw some of Secunder Kermani's report for the BBC. As you say, grim.

lionheart · 11/09/2021 13:15

www.rawstory.com/biden-vaccination-rules/

'With U.S. Covid-19 deaths rising and over a quarter of the eligible population still unvaccinated, President Joe Biden's sweeping new rules aimed at boosting vaccination rates have provoked predictable backlash from Republican lawmakers, right-wing voices, and anti-vaccine commentators but also widespread applause from public health experts and medical professionals.'

AcrossthePond55 · 11/09/2021 14:04

Biden, Obama, Clinton attending the 9/11 memorial service in NYC. Bush will be in Shanksville at the Flt 93 memorial in Shanksville.

What will Doofus do today?

www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-evander-holyfield-vitor-belfort-fight-commentator-pay-per-view/

TheNorthWestPawsage · 11/09/2021 14:57

Hope he gets a bigly NYC 'welcome'.

And wouldn't it be refreshing if he didn't make it all about himself?... Oh, wait...

According to a report from the New York Post, former president Donald Trump is planning to visit Ground Zero in Manhattan on Saturday as part of the 20th-anniversary remembrance of the 9/11 attack.
www.rawstory.com/trump-at-ground-zero/

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 11/09/2021 15:44

Saying that he thinks Biden rushed it is rich, coming from the man who planned to have got the USA out of Afghanistan even earlier.

The Trump administration in February 2020 negotiated a withdrawal agreement with the Taliban that excluded the Afghan government, freed 5,000 imprisoned Taliban soldiers (not being held by the US government forces but by the Afghan government) and set a date of 1st May, 2021, for the final withdrawal. They also reduced the number of American servicemen in Afghanistan from about 13,000 to 2,500 in the ten months after the agreement had been made.

Biden delayed the final departure until 31st August, 2021.

AcrossthePond55 · 11/09/2021 17:05

[quote TheNorthWestPawsage]Hope he gets a bigly NYC 'welcome'.

And wouldn't it be refreshing if he didn't make it all about himself?... Oh, wait...

According to a report from the New York Post, former president Donald Trump is planning to visit Ground Zero in Manhattan on Saturday as part of the 20th-anniversary remembrance of the 9/11 attack.
www.rawstory.com/trump-at-ground-zero/[/quote]
Yeah, he'll 'visit' just like he did on the days following 9/11.

www.businessinsider.com/911-several-of-donald-trumps-vivid-memories-dont-hold-up-to-scrutiny-2021-9

AcrossthePond55 · 11/09/2021 17:07

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

Saying that he thinks Biden rushed it is rich, coming from the man who planned to have got the USA out of Afghanistan even earlier.

The Trump administration in February 2020 negotiated a withdrawal agreement with the Taliban that excluded the Afghan government, freed 5,000 imprisoned Taliban soldiers (not being held by the US government forces but by the Afghan government) and set a date of 1st May, 2021, for the final withdrawal. They also reduced the number of American servicemen in Afghanistan from about 13,000 to 2,500 in the ten months after the agreement had been made.

Biden delayed the final departure until 31st August, 2021.

now Asking , let's not rebut rhetoric with the facts!!

The majority of the GOP and Trumpinistas have already conveniently forgotten that it was Doofus that got Joe backed into a corner and forced a withdrawal. It was another one of his 'if I can't have it I'm going to smash it' actions.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 11/09/2021 18:38

I'm reasonably sure Joe Biden would have got the USA out of Afghanistan anyway, without Trump's botch job; he's been saying for about ten years that they couldn't win, they couldn't break even and they ought to get out of the game.

What I suspect he would not have done is unilaterally cut a "deal" with the group who had been killing American troops (and British, and Canadian, and Danish, and French, and German, and Italian, and Norwegian, and Polish, and all the other nationals) while completely ignoring America's allies there. And then when that group showed no sign whatever of keeping to the deal, allowed them to continue to dictate the the USA what it was to do, which is what Trump's crew did. The Taliban never did abide by the terms to which they had agreed, breaking them as early as 4th March after signing up to them on 28th February. And they carried right on being in cahoots with al-Qaeda, which they had specified they would not do.

Roussette · 11/09/2021 20:20

Just watched all of Bush's address on 9/11.
I was impressed

lionheart · 11/09/2021 20:52

Yes, he did a good thing.

Lweji · 11/09/2021 22:03

And then screwed it up with Iraq and Afghanistan.

borntobequiet · 12/09/2021 10:38

Placemarking with memories of calling my aunt in NYC (E33rd St) on 11/09/01. Very old even then, she was unclear on the situation but I could hear sirens in the background as we spoke. I and DD visited some months later for the New Year and received a wonderful welcome from New Yorkers, who were so pleased to have visitors. My aunt died peacefully in 2005 in the city she had loved and made her home in since the 1960s, having recently seen family members from Ireland, the UK and the US.

lionheart · 12/09/2021 12:04
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