Corona dillema

[Coronanamechangie]

Hi all. Name changed as don't want real life hatred.

We've been isolating for 8 days as DH tested positive. We count the 10 days from when he first showed symptoms. Were sending DC1 and DC2 back to school tomorrow.

However just lateral flowed them and DC2 is stongingly positive. We're tempted to send DC1 to school as it's their last couple of days of year 6.

Is this horribly irresponsible? Should we sit out another 10 days as a family? Sposed to be going to Devon on Sunday.

If we should send DC1 to school what should we tell them?

IBU - should do more isolation NBU should carefully proceed with life.

@Coronanamechangie

Ok. Cancelled Devon. Booked PCR for both kids. If DC1 is negative will send to last day of school. I think of PCR is negative after 10 days off isolation this is not irresponsible.

It's not pedantic arguing. I am trying to follow the rules and do what's best for all.

Ok I was wrong. Apologies

Jesus Christ. This thread shows (in so many ways) why we as a country are completely fucked.

Meanwhile my sister who lives in Devon has had to cancel coming to meet my new son for the 3rd time because of huge rises in cases there and kids class having to isolate

I say new, he's 1 and still not met her

Why have you cancelled your holiday before getting the PCR results?

Oops @Coronanamechangie obviously the very fact your mentioning school should have made me twig that you're not in Scotland - we go back in just over 3 weeks! - but just to highlight to everyone that said you were irresponsible that you'd be free to send your child to school here. Hope the PCRs are negative x

My understanding is this, that according to the 'letter of the law':

You, DH and DC1 are freed from isolation after midnight after the tenth day of isolation.

DC2 must be PCR tested, and if positive, must isolate for another 10 days, though you do not have to.

However, given the total lack of effective Covid mitigations in schools, I would suggest that you might think carefully about sending them in due to the impact on other families. However, that is common sense (something the guidance lacks) rather than law.

To be honest who cares what the rules say? If I had DH with Covid and a child who’d likely caught it no way would I risk sending in the next child, asymptomatic or not. Keep them at home then there’s 100% chance of not passing it on.

@RichardMarxisinnocent

I am slightly confused by your post. If DC1 doesn't develop symptoms or get a positive test result, they can stop isolating after the first 10 days can't they? They don't need to do another 10 days just because someone else in the household tested positive.

However you say you've been isolating for 8 days and were going to send the DC back to school tomorrow, so are you wanting to end DC1 isolation early before the 10 days is up? If so this is not OK. If however your question is can DC1 stop isolating after the first 10 days the answer is yes.

This.

You don’t re-start the 10 days for any of you other than the one who is positive.

@user1471447924

Stay the fuck at home

Well put. Clear and succinct.

I am very quite liberal re Covid rules these days but you absolutely should not let DC1 go in with DC2 testing positive. I would be utterly livid with you as a parent of another child in the class.

@sparepantsandtoothbrush

Why have you cancelled your holiday before getting the PCR results?

She hasn't, she just knows she's in the wrong so saying what people want to hear.

It's clear why this pandemic is going no where any time soon. There are at least 5 versions on this thread alone of what people have okayed in their brains as the right thing to do.

@LouScot

I'm in Scotland and was about to come on and sat what *@StatisticallyChallenged* has said. Test and Protect as it is here wouldn't require the isolation of your other child to restart as long as the positive test was within the 10 day isolation period. Everyone except positive child would be free to leave isolation after 10 days providing they are well. However if positive test was on day 11 then entire household would isolate again for 10 days.

This is Scotland, I'm aware that mum's net doesn't revolve around us

Its the same here.

A positive test on another member of the household has occurred during the isolation period. They have to start isolating either from the date of the symptoms or the LFT/PCR positive.

If DC1 is negative they are free to go out and about. They have been in close contact and are negative so are fine.

The only time isolation starts again for the family is if the positive comes after the first set had finished

Why can't people just use common sense and act responsibly? Of course you can't send them to school. Imagine if one of their class mates mother's was doing the same thing just before your holiday. You'd be unimpressed I imagine.

Why did you LFT them?

They need a PCR test ASAP, but usually if it's a household the isolation only extends for the person who has tested positive, stays the same for everyone else unless they have symptoms

@Oneearringlost

You don't get many Let's that are negative

What are you talking about? They’re literally all negative apart from the unlucky occasion that you actually have covid (or your DC are squeezing lemon juice on them).

@Nettleskeins

There's very slight flaw in your advice (thankfully not taken by the OP) to self isolate in Devon. They've got to get there first. Even if they drive the kid will need a pee at some point on route. You may be able to do that at the side of the road but what if they need a poo? No loo visits under any circumstances on the journey to Devon? What about something to eat and drink or stretching their legs?

And what if there's a breakdown or small accident that means they have to use a train or cab for a part of the journey?

And when they get there the family head for the beach minus the positive child or all stay in their accommodation?

No meals out, no visits to attractions, no walks?

I know you've cancelled the holiday OP but I wouldn't have been so hasty. I'd have got a PCR test and gone from there. If it was negative you'd have been able to go on holiday safely. Don't cancel things unless you know for sure. DS's school have had quite a number of LF tests that have been positive followed by a negative PCR.

@Nettleskeins

I didn't say take him anywhere, just to self isolate in Devon. I didn't suggest him going to school.

How do you think they are going to get to Devon? Teleport there?!

You also haven’t explained why you wouldn’t get a child with a positive lateral flow test a PCR?! Rather you would “pretend” it was d&v.

Shocking.

You need to isolate close contacts of a positive case .. so once your child has their pcp you need to call PHA and seek their guidance. In all cases I have heard of the close contacts do need to isolate.

Won’t school question where DC2 is?

@IncludeWomenInThePrequel

My child's friend came here for a playdate one Tuesday; turns out his parents were at that moment off getting Covid tests. They sent him to school so he didn't miss his last few days of term.

Of course that meant 26 other kids and two teaching staff missing their first week of the holidays. But never mind hey?!

Something similar happened to us. DD went to a (covid compliant) birthday party… BUT the mother of the birthday girl (who was at the party, doing the food and drink etc) didn’t tell anyone she had symptoms (flu aches/ no sense of taste or smell!!!), then merrily went for test AFTER her daughter’s party.

So selfish, she just didn’t want to cancel her dd’s party! Her test was positive, as is her dd now and several that were at the party. We were good friends but I doubt I’ll speak to her again now as I know just how selfish she really is.

Why did you test?!

How many other families holidays will you ruin? Very selfish to even consider it.