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Ditching my mask from today except for in hospital settings

996 replies

Frittataz · 19/07/2021 06:46

Clearly this is fine legally speaking but AIBU to expect not to be asked to wear a mask from today onwards? I’ll wear one when attending hospital/doctors appointments but that’s it that’s were i draw the line. I shouldn’t be expected to explain myself right? I’ve wore a mask from the beginning and stuck to every rule. I won’t be rushing out to go to nightclubs as I didn’t do that before covid and i don’t suddenly feel the need to surround myself (closely) with lots of other people but I am looking forward to taking my daughter shopping and going to the cinema without having to wear a mask.

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Shelovesamystery · 19/07/2021 07:54

I work in hospitality. I know a lot of people who work in hospitality. I also know quite a few people that work in retail. I've yet to hear any of these people express concerns over ditching masks. Pretty much everyone has said something along the lines of "no more masks soon yay" or "can't wait to get rid of these bloody things at work, especially during summer". Those who work for companies that have told them they have to keep wearing masks at work are jealous of those who get to ditch them today. MN feels like a parallel universe!

I suspect that a lot of people will be wearing masks over the next few days out of peer pressure. Then they will see others not wearing masks, feel OK to stop wearing theirs and by the end of the week those who are still wearing them will be in the minority.

And businesses main focus is profit. They are not going to exclude customers from spending money if they don't legally have to. This "we encourage staff and customers to wear masks whilst on our premises" is a token gesture, it doesn't mean anything. It's just to make themselves look like they care 🤷‍♀️

minatrina · 19/07/2021 07:54

@Frittataz

I get what you’re saying but to call me selfish for wanting to do something I’m legally allowed to do is bit harsh.
Oh Jesus. This is what happens when you create a culture where people think that the law is the only morality they're bound to.
HalzTangz · 19/07/2021 07:55

@Frittataz

Clearly this is fine legally speaking but AIBU to expect not to be asked to wear a mask from today onwards? I’ll wear one when attending hospital/doctors appointments but that’s it that’s were i draw the line. I shouldn’t be expected to explain myself right? I’ve wore a mask from the beginning and stuck to every rule. I won’t be rushing out to go to nightclubs as I didn’t do that before covid and i don’t suddenly feel the need to surround myself (closely) with lots of other people but I am looking forward to taking my daughter shopping and going to the cinema without having to wear a mask.
You might not have a choice in some places, businesses can set their own rules for entry to their properties. I believe most supermarkets are not scrapping thank rule and would think most big retailers won't scrap it either. Tfl have said the mask rule stays in place. Local bus companies in my area said mass stay in place.

The only place I have seen personally that is dropping the mask rule is gyms

Imnothereforthedrama · 19/07/2021 07:55

Do you know I’ve not took my son to a shop since masks were required as he’s exempt.Obviously we’ve been to places but it’s not necessary for him to go to a shop . I was trying to avoid the looks but to be fair nobody has said anything I think most can tell why . So I’m glad that won’t be a issue now . I’ll use my judgment as I have throughout.
I doubt very much shops will be challenging people and refusing entry they give up on that ages ago anyway when it was mandatory so what hope do they have now . You may hear the odd person stopped but after a few times they’ll give up .

Audo · 19/07/2021 07:55

Fritataz, do you base all your moral decisions on rules someone has made?

savagebaggagemaster · 19/07/2021 07:55

@Frittataz

I’m not a knob and I don’t care if strangers think that. I’ve done everything I’ve needed to do from the very start to protect my family and complete strangers so I’d like to have. A it of choice for once.
So why are you not doing everything to protect your family now? Like the simple act of wearing a mask? Hmm
Tanith · 19/07/2021 07:55

I’m “gently” asking parents to continue to wear one when they drop off their child.

Since many of them have “gently” ignored that request to date, I expect they will continue to “gently” ignore it, just as parents at the school have “gently” ignored social distancing requests.

I’m treating this “gently” claim with a good deal of scepticism, by the way, because the Mouth-Almighties on our local FB are anything but gentle in their assertions.

InFiveMins · 19/07/2021 07:55

I'm with you OP, won't be wearing one unless on public transport which is very rare as I drive.

No legal requirement to wear one, so I won't.

herewegogc · 19/07/2021 07:55

So anyone who lights up a fag indoors MIGHT condemn everyone else to lung cancer and is seen as a pariah, but you OP are arguing that you have the right to infect others with a life threatening disease because you don't want to wear a mask? Buy yourself a pack of twenty, rip your mask off and enjoy.

HalzTangz · 19/07/2021 07:55

@Frittataz

But they’re not a legal requirement and if I am asked to wear one in shops I will gently remind them of that.
An they can gently remind you it's their premises and they don't have to allow you entry
00100001 · 19/07/2021 07:56

[quote luckylavender]@Frittataz - then shop keepers will have the right not to admit you. [/quote]
Why would they refuse her entry,when all though the last year loads of people have not worn masks...
Why will they suddenly change their policy and refuse entry?

anon12345678901 · 19/07/2021 07:57

Why start this thread asking if you would be unreasonable when you clearly don't care? People are advising shops and places can still ask you to wear a mask if it's their rules, and now you're saying oh I'll claim I'm exempt. You may say you're not a knob but you are definitely sounding like one.

Ultimatecougar · 19/07/2021 07:57

@Beendownthisroadmorethantwice I know how Covid works, we have people working indoors all shift without masks and we don't see workplace transmission. Because we keep our distance. You do get some areosol spread even with masks unless they are the face fitted variety as used on NHS Covid wards. The other types of mask just reduce bulk areosol release in the immediate area. Your risk can be reduced as effectively by not being in the immediate area. I assume most shops are keeping the perspex screens around tills for staff.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 19/07/2021 07:58

@Frittataz

But they’re not a legal requirement and if I am asked to wear one in shops I will gently remind them of that.
It doesn't work like that though. Our local supermarket doesn't let people in who are barefoot. Being barefoot isn't illegal, but the shop can set their rules and if you turn up without shoes, you will be refused entry.

Same with masks. Their shop, their rules.

stellaisabella · 19/07/2021 07:58

For what it's worth I'll be wearing mine in shops and medical settings etc, but that's about it.

Shops aren't "requiring" them though, you're "encouraged" to wear them and use personal choice and judgement. No ones going to be refused entry anywhere because it's not a legal requirement.

nellly · 19/07/2021 07:58

@Howcanthisbe123

Whilst you was giving birth!? He knocked you up during a pandemic....you couldn’t get closer!.....that’s the stylist thing I’ve ever heard! Is he going to infect you and the baby upon delivery if he doesnt wear one? What about when you all go home? Will he wear one indoors?

Madness.

I disagree that it ever should have been in place while giving birth but surely you can see it's not to protect his partner and child ... who he probably lives with lol it was obviously in an effort to protect medical staff and from them therefore passing to other patients Grin
Couchbettato · 19/07/2021 07:58

@Frittataz

If thousands of people can attend indoor nightclubs and indoor sporting events then I don’t see people should be expected to wear a mask to go shopping.
Bit different though. Nightclubs and the like usually require you to be consuming things in order to keep their business afloat.

Shopping doesn't require you to consume things on your way through the aisles.

It isn't necessary to their business.

So really it's quite realistic that they will expect you to still put a mask on.

warmfluffytowels · 19/07/2021 07:58

@Benjispruce5

The government have made it up to individuals and establishments. Any shop or venue has the right to refuse entry for any reason. I don’t blame them, I respect firms that move to protect staff and customers.
I mean, shops may have the right to refuse service, but many are also on their knees after eighteen months of uncertainty and can't afford to lose anymore custom.

All our local shops are "strongly encouraging" the use of masks but I think they understand that they can't force you to do so.

I also know many shop staff who can't wait to get rid of the bloody things.

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 19/07/2021 07:58

Don’t wear one, but I will judge you and avoid you if I see you. We wear masks to protect others primarily so you are showing you don’t care about others.

ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia · 19/07/2021 07:59

You are legally correct but so are all shop keepers in who they invite or refuse entry and same with any transportation service operators or premises. Make sure you drive at a maximum speed of 20 mph where it is a legal requirement to do so in many built up urban areas and not 1 mph more as that is also your legal right and anything above 20 mph will be illegal too.

If you require any medically attention and your local medical facilities are full you will legally be entitled to treatment as according to their priorities. If you are tracked as causing a super spreading event you will be legally required to follow any instructions and not continue to knowingly cause harm to others.

Do make sure you never legally break any other rules whether concerning civic duty of care or not. Otherwise your legal standards would be hypocritical as you will not be in a legally correct position to make legal judgments.

Do understand this only applies to laws within the boundaries of England and will not be legal elsewhere within the UK. You will be illegal in Wales for instance with this behaviour.

bradshawine · 19/07/2021 08:00

Legality and morality are not the same

Rioja81 · 19/07/2021 08:00

I'll wear mine, but if I have forgotten one I won't panic.

Elys3 · 19/07/2021 08:00

The OP is a selfish idiot and dealing with people like her has reduced the number of customers for already struggling small businesses and has made working conditions awful for staff.

maddy68 · 19/07/2021 08:00

I think this will be the new divide in the UK. The ones that care about the impact on others a d those that don't.

Give yourself a massive pat on the back if you don't give a shit about anyone who might be undergoing cancer treatment etc. You are just a douche

Blessex · 19/07/2021 08:00

They will gradually fade out of use IMO. The majority (who won’t wear one) are not going to be reading a MN forum about coronavirus.

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