NETFLIX - why, why, why the misogynistic content???

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DH has taken the younger kids camping, so I was planning a Netflix binge. But I’m annoyed already. So much content about women being murdered / abused. This is just a selection of what comes up in my “Recommended for You” -

“Top of The Lake” - supposed to have won awards, but seriously? Hideous.

“Sophie - A Murder in West Cork” - no thanks.

“Quien Mato a Sara” - say no more.

“Sky Rojo” - oh, you really must watch that (so I’ve been repeatedly told) - the actor guy in it is your DH’s double. Well, I lasted about 5 minutes with that. What utter crap it is. It’s clear the scriptwriter would rather be scripting a porn.

I could go on .... so many police / crime dramas that inevitably hinge on murdered female victims and, of course, evidence photos of female bodies being strewn across police desks at every possible opportunity.

Is it just me? How hard could it be to produce a drama that doesn’t hinge on violence against women?

Can anyone recommend anything (drama) please? On a positive note, I did live Motherland, but that’s about it.

AIBU?

Ooh this Working Moms is great!! And a few series of it. Thankyou!!!

I will try the others as well, I was looking at Unorthodox. Shame DH isn’t away for the week

I agree with PP about the ripper documentary. A lot more focus on the victims as people, debunking the victim blaming of the time. In many ways Sutcliff is irrelevant.

It reminded me in a way of World at War. People were allowed to talk. Victims of Sutcliff who had survived, female journalists talking about the commonplace misogyny of the time.

Love working moms. Made by women about women

I noted this last weekend. Amongst my recommendations on Prime was "Kept Woman", and on Netflix, I got "3065 Days". That was just for starters.

@lokomojo - can you choose Korean drama on Netflix as a genre then...?

Yep I also feel repulsed by all the women being threatened/stalked/raped/kidnapped/murdered tropes.

The screenwriters haven’t caught on to this as a trend yet clearly -though there is a lot of other stuff out there to watch!- The woman as key victim is still going strong.

Offspring. Eight series, Aussie family drama. V good

The OA..amazing show

Definitely Ozark, everyone gets it. Total indiscriminate bloodshed. Don't get a flat with a balcony. There have been times this week I wish I actually knew Darleen.

@CassandraTrotter

To a pp, how is rue paul’s drag race not misogynistic?!

Op, some recommendations id give are virgin river, ozark, motherland, working moms, derry girls.

And ive just finished Gameface on channel 4.

The OP asked two questions. One was “recommend me some good and not misogynistic TV dramas”. I couldn’t answer that one because the drama I watch is mostly SF/fantasy and I suspect that’s not her thing.

The other was “why does everything on Netflix revolve around women being abused and murdered?”.

I was only addressing the second one. Opinions vary on whether RPDR is intrinsically misogynistic, but the limited amount I’ve seen of it has never shown any naked female murder victims being subjected to police autopsies.

Norsemen. Very funny.

The algorithm learns from your previous viewing history/my list and it doesn't always get it right. I like a combination of dystopian science fiction, historical fiction, and utter fluff, so while my feed has things on there like Virgin River, Yesterday, Bridgerton, and Parks and Rec, it's also got titles like Arrival and Aquaman, Shadow and Bone and the Witcher, Poldark and the Last Kingdom. I do go through once a month and add/remove titles from My List, though, so that does affect what I see. I don't watch a huge amount of crime fiction, of any description, so that doesn't often get recommended to me.

@lokomojo

This is why I watch kdrama. 90% women writers. No rape.

Hi loko. 👋

This isn’t entirely true. There are some Korean serial killer/dark thriller series like Signal and Tunnel where the crimes are very dark, but the human interest aspects of the main characters’ lives are typically warm and life-affirming.

If anyone is interested in giving kdrama a go, the OP of our long-running thread in TV has recommendations by genre with the streaming platform(s) noted. We are also happy to make recommendations if you tell is what you are in the mood for: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/telly_addicts/4283404-MsLatt-s-Daebak-Cybercaf-Kdrama-addicts-25-We-may-not-always-agree-on-shows-oppa-preference-wonky-fashion-but-we-are-never-disagreeable?pg=1

Hospital Playlist on Netflix is lovely and more mainstream. The second season is currently airing, though that’s a Netlix affectation. Kdramas normally have a ‘one and done’ format where everything is wrapped up in a single series of 16-20 episodes.

Hi Boaty!

Oh it's true, you're right. There are a few that I don't watch, but it is the case that just relentless rape and murder of women isn't routinely shoehorned into every show so it's just so easy to forget they exist!

Any day of the week, you can easily watch a whole primetime prestige drama where nobody rapes anyone, not least the lead character, plus she will often quite like her mum and have friends she talks to about their shared interests and personal lives, not just fellas. (Though fellas are a theme!) I struggle to think of many like that in English.

There are lots of different programs there, and looking at some of the best reviewed ones on metacritic I find to be a good filter.

I recently enjoyed Borgen, Dark, Fargo.

There are some programs I've seen that you might consider misogynistic content, but I've really enjoyed them.

Among those I'd consider unbelievable (US), ethos (Turkey)and unorthodox (US/Berlin). These are exactly the types of content that you are likely complaining about, but I considered them all to be very good. I enjoyed them, and learned something watching them.

“Sophie - A Murder in West Cork” - no thanks

Did you mean to sound so heartless, OP? Sophie and her family need her story to be told. Her killer has never been caught or convicted.
I watched it, and I was moved to tears by her son and her parents

Correction: He has been found guilty in France

Not an Ian Bailey apologist by any means but tried in absentia with no legal representation.

4 brilliant Aussie series

Stateless - highlights the awful Australian immigration detention situation. Inspired by real events. Created by Cate Blanchett. Starring the actress who played Serena in The Handmaid's Tale.
Rake - Aussie Comedy/drama about a brilliant criminal law barrister who is also a complete degenerate. You will piss yourself laughing. Toni Collette, Sam Neill and Hugo Weaving appear in the first series.
Wanted - Aussie Thelma and Louise type series about two women on the run.
Glitch - very clever and emotional Aussie drama, full of interesting characters. We were totally pulled in.

Quelle surprise, I'm Aussie (husband is not) but these are all honestly fantastic. And it's fun spotting how many actors cross over shows!

What is kdrama

I agree OP, rape and murder of women for entertainment purposes is scarily prevalent. I've also noticed that loads of books that have come out are exactly the same. Books that have perfectly normal descriptions end of depicting abuse. "My Absolute Darling" was horrific and is about a dad who raped his 14yo daughter regularly, but the language was things like "her throbbing clam" and "pert pussy" - about a child!!!! The fact it was written by a name made my stomach churn

*man not name

@TSSDNCOP

Definitely Ozark, everyone gets it. Total indiscriminate bloodshed. Don't get a flat with a balcony. There have been times this week I wish I actually knew Darleen.

Ozark is excellent and I love that the strong characters are the women

@Waterlemon

If you enjoyed Motherland, watch “The Letdown” it’s an Australian comedy series about a new mum trying to get to grips with Motherhood, its like motherland the prequel!

I was going to say this!

If those phrases were so offensive, why repeat them here? Is it really necessary

Korean drama, in the same vein as kpop.