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Was I wrong to be upset?

86 replies

GreenFlipFlop · 15/07/2021 11:55

Usually a lurker but had to seek some advice on this one because it’s been giving me a few restless nights. Sorry it’s a bit long.

It was my friend’s birthday so I popped over to drop a card. It was a doorstop visit, quick hello. She asked her 4YO son to come and say hello and he was playing so refused which didn’t bother me at all. Friend’s partner who I’ve not seen in around 5 years and I’ve never really gotten on with as he has historically treated her badly (she knows this so tends to keep us apart) came to the door to say hello which was fine. However, when son refused to say hello, he said ‘say hello otherwise 'GreenFlipFlop' will think you’re racist’ (I’m black). I was really taken aback by this as it was really random and I was a bit upset by it because it implied to me that black people think that everything and everyone is racist. I think my face changed and my friend sensed this but neither of us said anything and partner had walked away by then, I talked to her for a bit then said my goodbyes.

She text me 2 days later thanking me for card and normally I’m quite a non-confrontational person so don’t say anything however, this had been playing on my mind for 2 days and I was actually quite angry the more I thought about it because I thought it was a really inappropriate thing to say to a child and about me. I asked her what he meant by it and she apologised to me and said he gets really awkward when he hasn’t seen anyone for a while. She then forwarded me a message that was ‘supposedly’ typed by him apologising to me. I told her I accepted the apology, but basically that generally having a family that had felt the effects of racism, it wasn’t very nice and had upset me.

Friend understandably very upset by everything that happened and told me she had been crying since I sent the text as she was upset and didn’t think I’d want to be friends anymore. I said that wasn’t the case but I was just sick of holding these things in when they happened because its always me that gets upset and dwells on it and just wanted to make her aware.

Her mum later messaged me upset that I had called her daughter a racist and saying that neither of them were racist and that I had taken what was said the wrong way. Felt very victim blaming and I didn’t understand why her mum was getting involved when me and friend had had an amicable conversation between us. I forwarded mum last message sent to friend and she apologised that she had accused me. I accepted apology because cba with the drama and didn’t want to communicate with her any longer. However, I’m now left feeling like I tried to speak up for once about something that upset me and became the unreasonable one, like me being upset about what was said was less important than my friend being upset which is exactly why people don’t speak up about these things in the first place. Haven’t spoken to friend or mother since which was a couple of days ago. Feel very odd about the friendship now.

Did I make too big a deal of the partner’s comment?

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Taliskerskye · 15/07/2021 11:59

He is weird
She is weird
Her mum is weird
Oh and he’s definitely a racist.

I would steer well clear of all of them! I would be so dumbfounded if an adult friends mum texted me!

Secondbellini · 15/07/2021 12:02

This is all madness.

Steer well clear of them OP.

You do not need this in your life.

SleepingStandingUp · 15/07/2021 12:03

He's Def racist and a dick. She's a coward but you'll have a better understanding of why than us. Her mother sounds over invested. You were in the right.

Erinrose82 · 15/07/2021 12:04

What a dick thing to say ! He was I mean. And the mum. Your you, her friend, popping over to say happy birthday. Four year olds will play ! People are people. He's racist if he has to think about it !
Well done for saying something.. why should you not ? Ignore the mother and him , stay friends as she sounds nice but downtrodden xxx

ILoveFlumps · 15/07/2021 12:05

YANBU. I long for the day when peoples skin colour is irrelevant in the sense that it doesn't define them as a person. FWIW I'm white, and cannot even begin to imagine what people of colour have gone through for many many years. I was bought up to see the person inside, and that is how my children are as well. It's such a shame that this isn't the norm in society today Sad
The partner sounds like a twit.

Maggiesfarm · 15/07/2021 12:06

@Taliskerskye

He is weird She is weird Her mum is weird Oh and he’s definitely a racist.

I would steer well clear of all of them! I would be so dumbfounded if an adult friends mum texted me!

That!

What a stupid, ignorant, horrible thing for the man to say; I'd have been shocked.

Ditch them, you don't need 'friends' like that.

GreyhoundG1rl · 15/07/2021 12:07

Bin the fecking lot of them, they all sound nuts. She got her Mum involved 🤣

Taliskerskye · 15/07/2021 12:08

Also I would slowly disengage from them. If you do it too quickly it will cause more weird drama.

Splann · 15/07/2021 12:08

No you didn’t make too big a deal about his comment. He’s a racist, she is immature (crying about it and getting her mum to message you Hmm ) and her mum is a meddler who twists the facts.

I’m not sure what you get out of this friendship but the lot of them sound self centred and unpleasant.

Fernando072020 · 15/07/2021 12:10

Yanbu.
Sounds like your friend has become very upset because she knows what her partner said was hugely inappropriate.
I would maybe back off a bit from them. The mother getting involved is just weird, your friend knows what her partner said was very wrong but is turning it back on you. I know if my partner said something like that, I wouldn't be able to just ignore it.

tigger1001 · 15/07/2021 12:11

@Taliskerskye

He is weird She is weird Her mum is weird Oh and he’s definitely a racist.

I would steer well clear of all of them! I would be so dumbfounded if an adult friends mum texted me!

Totally agree with this.

I would be steering clear. I think he has shown you exactly why you haven't got on in the past.

Bridezillamaybe · 15/07/2021 12:11

You were absolutely right.

Hoppinggreen · 15/07/2021 12:13

Can’t believe she told her mum on you - is she 6?
He’s a racist as a minimum and she might be or is just being controlled by the Dickhead
Either way avoid the lot of them

SillyLittleBiscuit · 15/07/2021 12:13

He's racist. Your friend knows and has got upset to manipulate you into easing her guilt at not facing up to it. You're not wrong to be upset and not wrong to speak up. Sorry this shit is still happening.

Tal45 · 15/07/2021 12:14

You definitely didn't make too much of his comment but I think you should have taken it up with him, not your friend, as she already has enough problems being married to him and having a crazy mother. If you can't be friends with her because she is married to him that's fair enough, but I don't think you should make her take responsibility for his behaviour as it sounds like she is already enough of a victim.

ChainJane · 15/07/2021 12:15

I think you're all in the wrong. You shouldn't make your friend feel uncomfortable because of the actions of someone else. Your problem is with the person who said that to you (which, tbh, doesn't sound that bad in the grand scheme of things - someone just wanting not to appear that their child is racist. If this was after the football game on Sunday he's probably ultra cautious about this issue, because racism is all over the news at the moment). I don't think your friend's mother complaining to you is any worse than you complaining to your friend about a third party.

I agree with other posters, you're better off without them and they are probably better off without you.

Googlewasmyidea1 · 15/07/2021 12:16

The mother got involved because your friend went crying to her about it.

Nutters the lot of 'em, avoid

CHISistoast · 15/07/2021 12:18

They all sound very odd and unreasonable. I would have said the friend less so but she told her mum!?! You seem infinitely more reasonable and I reckon you can do without this complicated drama. I suspect he will claim he was being "funny" but he wasn't.

Notaroadrunner · 15/07/2021 12:25

@ChainJane

I think you're all in the wrong. You shouldn't make your friend feel uncomfortable because of the actions of someone else. Your problem is with the person who said that to you (which, tbh, doesn't sound that bad in the grand scheme of things - someone just wanting not to appear that their child is racist. If this was after the football game on Sunday he's probably ultra cautious about this issue, because racism is all over the news at the moment). I don't think your friend's mother complaining to you is any worse than you complaining to your friend about a third party.

I agree with other posters, you're better off without them and they are probably better off without you.

This wasn't about teaching the 4 year old right from wrong. You honestly think the father was thinking the 4 year old might appear racist if they didn't say hello? This was about having a dig at @GreenFlipFlop because he's a dickhead. There was absolutely no need to bring racism into the conversation at all, regardless of what's in the media at present.

As for the friend, she should have spoken up at the time if she felt what he said was inappropriate, not go crying to her mammy about it after the event. @GreenFlipFlop I'd steer clear of the whole family from now on.

MrsTWH · 15/07/2021 12:28

YANBU. And I would have nothing further to do with the lot of them.

What adult woman needs to tell tales to her mum and then give her your number so she can stick her oar in?! That is so pathetic. And yes she’s all upset and making it all about her rather than checking in on you and asking how you are after her racist partner made a dick comment. She will always make excuses for him, he will never get on with you because you see him for who he is.

I hope you’re ok? Especially as I see some victim blaming already on this thread Hmm

GreenFlipFlop · 15/07/2021 12:31

Thanks for your replies. To be fair to my friend I think she was upset talking to her mum about it and her mum probably messaged me off her own back, but I was just quite surprised by the message. I'm not even sure if she knows her mum messaged me.

I probably should have taken it up with him when he said it but I was a bit shocked am pretty non-confrontational usually and didn't want to ruin her birthday but fighting with her partner on their doorstep as all their family were there. I thought I would be able to just let it go but it just upset me the more I thought about it.

@ChainJane Why on earth would someone think their 4 year old is racist so worry about them appearing so? It was also before the football.

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AryaStarkWolf · 15/07/2021 12:31

what a weirdo, I can see why you didn't like him in the first place. I'd pull back from that friendship, really bad form getting her mother involved too

Uramaki · 15/07/2021 12:32

Friend’s partner who I’ve not seen in around 5 years and I’ve never really gotten on with as he has historically treated her badly sounds like there is more going in their relationship so I can see why she might have been scared to confront her partner. Getting her mum involved is very weird and the partner doesn't like you, either becuase you can see he's not nice to your friend or becuase he is racist.

Couchpotato3 · 15/07/2021 12:32

He's the racist twat here, and she is probably ground down by his nastiness and isn't coping very well as a result (hence the drama, getting Mum involved etc).

You've got two choices - back away and leave them to it, or continue to support your friend (if you feel it is worth the effort). I feel sorry for their kid. Poisonous environment for him.

GreenFlipFlop · 15/07/2021 12:33

Thank you @MrsTWH ❤️

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