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Was I wrong to be upset?

86 replies

GreenFlipFlop · 15/07/2021 11:55

Usually a lurker but had to seek some advice on this one because it’s been giving me a few restless nights. Sorry it’s a bit long.

It was my friend’s birthday so I popped over to drop a card. It was a doorstop visit, quick hello. She asked her 4YO son to come and say hello and he was playing so refused which didn’t bother me at all. Friend’s partner who I’ve not seen in around 5 years and I’ve never really gotten on with as he has historically treated her badly (she knows this so tends to keep us apart) came to the door to say hello which was fine. However, when son refused to say hello, he said ‘say hello otherwise 'GreenFlipFlop' will think you’re racist’ (I’m black). I was really taken aback by this as it was really random and I was a bit upset by it because it implied to me that black people think that everything and everyone is racist. I think my face changed and my friend sensed this but neither of us said anything and partner had walked away by then, I talked to her for a bit then said my goodbyes.

She text me 2 days later thanking me for card and normally I’m quite a non-confrontational person so don’t say anything however, this had been playing on my mind for 2 days and I was actually quite angry the more I thought about it because I thought it was a really inappropriate thing to say to a child and about me. I asked her what he meant by it and she apologised to me and said he gets really awkward when he hasn’t seen anyone for a while. She then forwarded me a message that was ‘supposedly’ typed by him apologising to me. I told her I accepted the apology, but basically that generally having a family that had felt the effects of racism, it wasn’t very nice and had upset me.

Friend understandably very upset by everything that happened and told me she had been crying since I sent the text as she was upset and didn’t think I’d want to be friends anymore. I said that wasn’t the case but I was just sick of holding these things in when they happened because its always me that gets upset and dwells on it and just wanted to make her aware.

Her mum later messaged me upset that I had called her daughter a racist and saying that neither of them were racist and that I had taken what was said the wrong way. Felt very victim blaming and I didn’t understand why her mum was getting involved when me and friend had had an amicable conversation between us. I forwarded mum last message sent to friend and she apologised that she had accused me. I accepted apology because cba with the drama and didn’t want to communicate with her any longer. However, I’m now left feeling like I tried to speak up for once about something that upset me and became the unreasonable one, like me being upset about what was said was less important than my friend being upset which is exactly why people don’t speak up about these things in the first place. Haven’t spoken to friend or mother since which was a couple of days ago. Feel very odd about the friendship now.

Did I make too big a deal of the partner’s comment?

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Doublestar · 15/07/2021 19:58

Not rtft but I the dickhead dh said it because your friend has probably said something to him in the past like "greenflipflop will think you're racist if you don't say hello/be nice to her".
So he said it passive-aggressively to you using the son as a conduit - to let you know he's "on to you"- Absolute idiot.
And I can't get over your friend and her dm!! - who even does that? I don't know who comes off worse in this!

Doublestar · 15/07/2021 19:58

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Hankunamatata · 15/07/2021 20:00

Her partners an arse but you know he is already. Sounds like he is trying to isolate your friend even more

GreenFlipFlop · 15/07/2021 20:08

@QueenBee52 Thank you ❤️ I'm still a bit upset tbh but I'm annoyed at myself for being upset cos I definitely don't think I did anything wrong? She's blocked me now on WhatsApp. Either as a defense mechanism cos she thinks I'm gonna end the friendship so wanted to get in first or because her partner and mum have convinced her that I overreacted and it's not worth sorting out 🤷🏾‍♀️ so I guess that's the end of that..

Also more annoyed that if this was the resulting situation anyway that I didn't go in harder, I was way too nice to her and her mum. My husband says at least there's no real comeback on me behaving badly which at least is something

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Notaroadrunner · 15/07/2021 20:18

Her loss! You really can do without peoole like them in your life.

MrsTerryPratchett · 15/07/2021 20:19

He's tried and succeeded in isolating her from you by being racist. And yes, as if you needed confirmation, he's a big racist.

She's not going to leave him so it's all for the best. Try not to lose sleep, the only arsehole here is him.

MrsTerryPratchett · 15/07/2021 20:19

He's tried and succeeded in isolating her from you by being racist. And yes, as if you needed confirmation, he's a big racist.

She's not going to leave him so it's all for the best. Try not to lose sleep, the only arsehole here is him.

QueenBee52 · 15/07/2021 20:25

Her behaviour is disgusting from beginning to end..

Rest assured @GreenFlipFlop you did absolutely nothing wrong... She on the other hand is obviously blocking you through sheer shame.. and knows it..

She has finally did the right thing.., she's now just someone you used to know ...

Onward and upward 🌸💕

Looubylou · 15/07/2021 21:09

He sounds like a racist dick having a dig. He also sounds awful for doing this on friends birthday - he would know she would be upset too. I'd still be friends but not visit, and avoid all contact with awful racist dickhead. 💐

LittleMG · 16/07/2021 08:58

People don’t like being called out as racist and they try and argue they’re not but it just makes it worse! Hidden racism needs calling out. You were right, hopefully they’ll think next time!!!

Nietzschethehiker · 16/07/2021 09:13

OP you didn't do anything wrong. I actually think you were remarkably understanding in how you dealt with it. He is a giant twat. Ergh I can't bear the " Fner Fner I'm going to say a tatty thing under the guise of a joke because I am so spineless I can't stand by my statements" at the best of times but when it's a racist statement it's bloody unacceptable.

Her mum getting involved is simply batshit. Ian my mother is batshit but even she would think getting involved would be insane and has done since I was a teenager.

I think you are very decent for wanting to be there for your friend who isn't blameless but you clearly think there is some psychological impact from her DP (sounds right certainly) I would just remove yourself from interacting with her DP and DM and if she forces the issue or brings it up I'd be honest that you still want to be her friend and support her but those two were off the table.

If she wails about that I'd be quite clear that it's a boundary there. Friend without interaction with those two or no friend at all. Up to her.

I mean personally I'd feel like going scorched earth on the bloody lot of them but I'm not known for my diplomacy so I am trying to counter my unreasonable instincts.

Either way you have no obligation to make racists feel better about themselves as I am sure you already know. You didn't do anything wrong. They did. This is absolutely 100% not on you in any way.

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