AIBU to think that discussion of criminal acts towards children and who the perpetrators are , are of importance to MN users , and threads should remain in AIBU with polls attached.

[Thevenerableswede]

This refers to the thread about an abuser in Canada which was moved, but has happened with other similar posts to the feminist boards. I imagine that everyone here has concerns , not just feminists.

Absolutely NBU. If it's an issue of safeguarding children and, even worse, if the press are restricted in their reporting, then that's a concern for everyone. We should be able to talk about it without huddling in a corner and looking over our shoulder in case a man might get upset.

YANBU

Does anyone know why the thread was moved? Can someone link it?

Has HQ commented on why it was moved?

The AIBU board is consistently filled with non-aibu threads (I'd say more than 50%) which never get moved, so why the special treatment in this case?

Linking it might get this thread deleted. You’ll be able to find it on the Feminism: Sex & Gender board (which is confusingly called Feminism Women’s Rights on the dropdown menu)

YANBU

These are issue we all need to know about.

Don't worry, I found it. All becomes clear .

YANBU.

It's very odd.

Anything to do with child protection seems to get bumped to the Feminism sex and gender debate section.

Since when has child protection been a "feminism sex and gender debate issue"?

This was not a feminist issue, you could be a 'surrendered wife' or a believer in womens inferiority, and still object to men self identilfying as women. It has connotations of interest to feminists, but not limited to that.

YANBU
I had a thread a few days ago on the same sort of theme www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4289011-AIBU-to-ask-Mumsnet-to-reconsider-a-decision?pg=1 results weren’t as positive as yours.

I think the more threads like this one and mine. And the more threads are worded in a way to be able remain on AIBU the better.

I must say, looking at the police photo of that person, I'm not sure how the person responsible at MN can sleep at night - having ensured that as few people as possible read about what has happened (is happening and will no doubt happen more and more).

Recently unnecessary confusion was caused regarding a person who was described by victims as male but later as female when arrested . This resulted in a great deal of concern in the community as to whether the perpetrator, who was attacking random women, was still at large. Surely , when a dangerous perpetrator is at large, an accurate description from the authorities is the least that we should expect.
In the case of this sex offender an inaccurate description might very well result in other victims not coming forward and this is a travesty of justice.

YANBU.

YANBU

Except some posters are blatantly gaming AIBU by creating polls and framing trans rights issues as an AIBU because they don’t agree with the creation of the new topic.

For once, MN is doing the correct thing by moving the trans discussion threads to the appropriate topic.

Except some posters are blatantly gaming AIBU by creating polls and framing trans rights issues as an AIBU because they don’t agree with the creation of the new topic.

So you think that deliberately not giving accurate descriptions of offenders against women and children is not a safeguarding issue? How are people expected to look out for predators or come forward to report a similar attack if the description of the assailant is being deliberately falsified? In what way is this just a " feminist" issue?

@itcouldhave

Except some posters are blatantly gaming AIBU by creating polls and framing trans rights issues as an AIBU because they don’t agree with the creation of the new topic.

For once, MN is doing the correct thing by moving the trans discussion threads to the appropriate topic.

I'd be fine with that, but they are leaving non-feminism related posts in FWR and not moving them.

They could at least pretend to be even handed.

@itcouldhave

Except some posters are blatantly gaming AIBU by creating polls and framing trans rights issues as an AIBU because they don’t agree with the creation of the new topic.

For once, MN is doing the correct thing by moving the trans discussion threads to the appropriate topic.

Also, you are being incredibly transphobic by suggesting that because a male abuser identifies as a woman they are trans.

@334bu

*Except some posters are blatantly gaming AIBU by creating polls and framing trans rights issues as an AIBU because they don’t agree with the creation of the new topic.*

So you think that deliberately not giving accurate descriptions of offenders against women and children is not a safeguarding issue? How are people expected to look out for predators or come forward to report a similar attack if the description of the assailant is being deliberately falsified? In what way is this just a " feminist" issue?

Not sure why you’re telling me what I think since you can’t possibly know.

It’s obvious to me at least that a number of posters disagree with the creation of a separate trans rights topic under Feminism and are attempting to evade it by using AIBU to discuss it by framing trans-related discussions as an AIBU.

It’s irritating enough that MN don’t move topics out of AIBU as it is. Frankly, if they’re going to move trans threads out of AIBU they should move all the incorrectly posted threads.

Imagine thinking the issue of child safeguarding is so unimportant that it should be shunted out of the most widely read topic board on Mumsnet and into one that rarely sees the light of day.

@334bu

Recently unnecessary confusion was caused regarding a person who was described by victims as male but later as female when arrested . This resulted in a great deal of concern in the community as to whether the perpetrator, who was attacking random women, was still at large. Surely , when a dangerous perpetrator is at large, an accurate description from the authorities is the least that we should expect. In the case of this sex offender an inaccurate description might very well result in other victims not coming forward and this is a travesty of justice.

@334bu sets ridiculous. Surely getting accurate descriptions for communication/photo fits can highlight serial criminals & allow the public to help.

Can you link the story please?

Sorry shouts say "that"s ridiculous .....

Can you link the story please?
The problem is that if we do, this thread will probably be reported and no doubt moved, as was the previous one. You will have to ask the posters doing the reporting what their reasons are.

@Floisme

Can you link the story please? The problem is that if we do, this thread will probably be reported and no doubt moved, as was the previous one. You will have to ask the posters doing the reporting what their reasons are.

Good point. I'll google it

YANBU. This is a society-wide issue about sexual exploitation, and it shouldn’t be moved to other boards to hide it. Imagine if threads on Sarah Everard or MeToo were automatically moved to “feminism chat”, or threads on racism against the England team were moved to Black Mumsnetters?

This looks like a concerted attempt to bury serious issues around sex crimes because they might reveal some inconveniently hugely important issues.

@AngeloMysterioso

Imagine thinking the issue of child safeguarding is so unimportant that it should be shunted out of the most widely read topic board on Mumsnet and into one that rarely sees the light of day.

Imagine being so presumptuous that you know exactly what someone else is thinking.