To think bangers and mash implies veg too?

[Crowsaregreat]

My kids love sausage and mash. I always do it with at least one type of veg, preferably two. Peas, carrots, broccoli sort of thing.

We stayed with PIL a while ago and MIL did sausage and mash that was exactly that - sausage, mash, gravy. Then recently my DM did the same.

It won't do DC any harm but I thought it was odd. I don't think I'd ever give DC just meat + potato for dinner unless it was a desperate situation. AIBU to think it's weird to have a dinner with no veg?

"@Gwenhwyfar chains don’t but I have seen independent Italian restaurants set their menus out like that in places around the U.K."

OK, well I haven't and it's not the norm.

If I was offering that food I would offer baked beans or peas. However I have seen it served without veg.

Bangers and Mash to me is either with gravy, plus a veg DC would eat e.g. peas/broccoli or served with no gravy and beans.

That said, now adult DC wouldn't eat any veg with that so would have a couple of portions of fruit instead.

@warmfluffytowels burgers normally have at least a bit of salad inside them even if they don’t on the side. Fish and chips needs mushy peas otherwise it’s against the law
Honestly if I went to a restaurant and ordered macaroni cheese and it didn’t come with anything on the side I would consider that really crap! It really needs something to break up the stodge

"It's an example of a very popular main-meal dish that isn't served with vegetables. Alongside many other things - burgers and fries, steak and chips, fish and chips, meat or seafood pizzas, seafood pasta dishes...

I can think of loads of main meals that don't come with veg as standard."

Exactly! If people want to have veg with every meal, that's great, but don't pretend there aren't loads of meals that come without veg.

@FlumpyPoodle

I thought of the most iconic depiction of sausage and mash in our culture, admittedly there aren't many, and I landed on the famous Grange Hill sausage. They appear to serve it with peas.

In my heart though I think bangers and mash should have an addition of thick onion gravy and nothing else.

that's School Dinners though, they serve peas with everything, salad, curry, sponge and custard.... :o

We go onion gravy OR baked beans here.

[quote PattyPan]@warmfluffytowels burgers normally have at least a bit of salad inside them even if they don’t on the side. Fish and chips needs mushy peas otherwise it’s against the law
Honestly if I went to a restaurant and ordered macaroni cheese and it didn’t come with anything on the side I would consider that really crap! It really needs something to break up the stodge[/quote]
Mushy peas make me gag

I honestly have never once seen Macaroni Cheese (or indeed, any pasta dish) come with a side of vegetables or salad as standard.

Even in a pub, macaroni cheese usually comes with a salad on the side. And a garlic bread, which I've always found a bit bizarre.

Most Italian restaurants don't serve macaroni cheese, as it's not Italian. They do serve fairly plain pasta dishes, but it's one course, with other courses containing veg. The Mediterranean diet contains plenty of veg!

I don't eat out that often, but I wouldn't pay restaurant prices for beige food!

we always have veg-
with bangers and mash (and the most glorious onion gravy) we usually have peas and sweet corn not touching each other but that is another thread but carrots or cauliflower cheese would also go nicely.
I feel like you @Crowsaregreat feels incomplete without veg.

True that pizza doesn’t default come with veg. If I invited someone over for dinner and planned to serve pizza I would always provide side salad though. Going back to OP’s situation, it would be weird not to provide any vegetables.

Honestly if I went to a restaurant and ordered macaroni cheese and it didn’t come with anything on the side I would consider that really crap! It really needs something to break up the stodge

Yes-garlic bread.

Bangers and mash.... beans

Bangers, mash and gravy...... some kind of veg

Where I live, fish and chips comes with mushy peas as standard (e.g from our local pub). It is not an example of a meal that normally comes without veg.

Nor is burger & chips.

Even steak fries usually comes with a very simple green salad.

Seriously, if I ordered burger & chips in a pub and it arrived as literally just burger and chips, I'd consider myself to have been ripped off.

"Even in a pub, macaroni cheese usually comes with a salad on the side. And a garlic bread, which I've always found a bit bizarre."

Working and lower middle class people in the Uk don't have a 'no double carb rule' so lasagne and chips is OK and pasta and garlic bread too. Probably not the healthiest, but it's what people like.

Plenty of Italian restaurants sell pasta and pizza as the main course and don't go by the Italian way of having pasta before the meat and fish. Did you mean restaurants in Italy?

Bangers and mash means sausages and mash with gravy.

If we are having veg I usually say we are having Sausages, mash and “insert veg”.

Even a Maccy Ds comes with a slice of lettuce, tomato and gherkin!

I think what you eat at home and what you eat out is different too
So a meal out with no veg, fine but if you're eating main meals every day with none then not fine

Even in a pub, macaroni cheese usually comes with a salad on the side.

I've never really seen this, but I would find it really odd. Why would you serve a hot plate of pasta with some lettuce on the side? Is it just to say you've got veg with your meal, or something?

Salad does not belong on a hot plate of pasta!

"Where I live, fish and chips comes with mushy peas as standard (e.g from our local pub). It is not an example of a meal that normally comes without veg."

Where I live, the peas are extra, definitely not standard.

Oh don’t get me wrong, I have no problem with double or even triple carbs. There just needs to be a side salad as well!

" if I went to a restaurant and ordered macaroni cheese and it didn’t come with anything on the side I would consider that really crap! It really needs something to break up the stodge"

The stodge is the whole point. It's comfort food.

I don't breathe in, or out without eating a portion of veg.

Super easy way to get 20,000 portions in a day. Surely everyone could do this?

Peas cost extra from the chippy but I’ve never seen f&c in a restaurant that didn’t come with peas, normally a choice between mushy or not.

@NotMyCat

I think what you eat at home and what you eat out is different too So a meal out with no veg, fine but if you're eating main meals every day with none then not fine

But nobody is saying they do it everyday

And if it's okay to have the odd meal in a restaurant with no veg, surely it's okay to have the odd meal at home without veg too?

There are plenty of meals I'd eat with no vegetables:

Burger and chips (I order mine without lettuce etc. because I hate the texture of warm, raw veg next to cooked meat)
Fish and Chips.
Numerous pasta dishes.
Pizza.
Cheese on toast.
Jacket potatoes with various non-vegetable toppings.

@BeenAsFarAsMercyAndGrand pub food always has a side.
Most people I know order fish and chips from the chip shop and if you want a side you have to ask for it, so when they say fish and chips you don’t automatically think of veg coming with it.