That Sarah Vine column

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@the80sweregreat

Only once did Michael Gove seem a teeny tiny bit human during an interview about the Dominic Cummings affair last year and he and was trying to defend his actions about the ' eye test' and both him and the interviewer started laughing at the fact he was tying himself in knots actually trying to stick up for him. Only time he showed any kind of normal reaction and it was clear he didn't believe any of it either.

Having read Red's analysis, I'm more than willing to believe that this was a calculated move by Gove to demonstrate, without being able to be quoted on it, that he thought the script given to them all by Johnson was risible.

He probably has to practice chuckling in a mirror to try to make it look vaguely humanoid.

@the80sweregreat

Hancock's appeal is odd but a thread about him being attractive on mumsnet threw up some interesting comments. Many do like him. Someone finds Gove appealing and wants to sleep with him. Humans are complex individuals and attractiveness isn't a exact science as shown on many a thread.

'Wants to sleep with him' makes him sound like Gollum, who he absolutely looks like.

Shiver

I didn't want to say ' have sex with' as that sounds a bit cold.
He is an odd bod, no doubt about that though.

Gove has always reminded me of Pob. Why anyone. female or male would want to shag him is beyond me.

And yes as another poster said it's not just his looks that make him so repulsive, it's slimy loathsome character.

There's something really off about him.

Sunak has the charm offensive.
Murdoch agrees too as the news about him is he really positive and really ' wholesome'
A word you cannot tag onto the others at all.
Even the pup is a designer one..
I can see through the games!

I really can't see Gove as PM. He has a a prefect/slimy Apprentice candidate aura about him, in fact they all do. I'm surprised that Hancock didn't mutter "Thank you for the opportunity...." when his wife kicked him out.

So much sleaze is coming out now in the Tories. Blatant cronyism and shagging about. I'm not so bothered about the shagging about, but it does indicate what sort of people are running the country. It's all the other liberty taking/morally questionable behaviour that bothers me - not what someone did when they were 17, but the stuff going on now. We just accept it because it is becoming the culture that it is what people in government do. We need to adopt the mindset that we deserve better.

I used to see Gove jogging around the Ladbroke Grove area when I was on my way to work. I can confirm that he is more repellent in real life than on TV.

It's always gone on though , from Profumo in the 60s to now Hancock and ( possibly ) Gove. Labour have skeletons too of course.
Politicians are a rum bunch generally going back many years
It's the misuse of money that annoys me more than the affairs. That's what tends to be 'air brushed '
away.

@plumpuddisnice

Gove has always reminded me of Pob. Why anyone. female or male would want to shag him is beyond me.

And yes as another poster said it's not just his looks that make him so repulsive, it's slimy loathsome character.

There's something really off about him.

Yes! Pob’s double!

@Nicolastuffedone

‘Utterly physically repellant in every way’ would that be ok to say about Diane Abbott? No, of course not. MN is very big on women not bringing other women down, yet MG is seen as fair game. I don’t care either way about Gove/Vine, but it seems ok to laugh at his looks etc where if someone had said that about a woman, there would’ve been uproar! The double standards on here are appalling!

I agree.

@Peregrina

Sarah wears shirt, £655, Victoria Beckham Sarah wears shirt that would pay for a family to survive for a month.

Scraping the barrel a bit now, with your vitriol.

Yes, but when schoolchildren are going hungry and nurses who have bailed us out over the Covid crisis are only offered a 1% rise, flaunting such wealth is tasteless. Who on earth pays £655 for a shirt anyway!

Oh for heaven’s sake! Why shouldn’t she wear what the limes, and can afford? She may have picked it up in a charity shop. She’s not asking you to give her free shirts.

Likes *

from Profumo in the 60s

Yes, but Profumo when he lied to the HoC, resigned promptly and then spent his life doing charity work. As far as I know, he didn't try to brazen it out, and have all the others making excuses. But even then MacMillan's Government seemed tired and sleazy, even if we didn't use the word then, and Labour got in in 1964, partly as a result.

@Grimacingfrog

In answer to your question, yes there is Frances McDormand. Fantastic actress and Oscar winner. However, it’s very telling that she doesn’t appear on the Hollywood walk of fame despite being an Oscar winner. There are loads of new additions of actors I wouldn’t say are as accomplished and talented as Frances .....

Eg. Benedict Cumberbatch, Zac Efron, Shia LaBeouf, Courteney Cox, Laura Linney, Sarah Paulson

So yeah, normal looking women in showbiz get overlooked

@plumpuddisnice I have always said he looks like Pog! The way he sticks his lip out and stares at whoever he is talking to. He rarely blinks and I find him unnerving.

@Classica

whoever it was that said 'politics is just showbusiness for ugly people' is right.

Exactly. This focus on looks is a bit depressing though. I've seen Michael Gove at an event. He is taller than you might expect and neither handsome nor exceptionally ugly. I'll never forgive him for his grammar changes to the English primary curriculum. Diane Abbott let herself down with that nasty tweet.

Pob!!!

@Notonthestairs

That's quite a depressing list of potential candidates Peregrina. (Well it's depressing to me).

Deeply depressing. Unfortunately I think Sunak is the heir apparent, there are a lot of Tory ladies with moist knickers who are going weak kneed over him. Still, I suppose we should be grateful it’s unlikely to be Patel.

I suppose that after slating Sasha Swire's tell-all, we can, none-the-less, expect that the temptation to write her own memoirs will be very hard for Sarah to resist.

I wouldn't be surprised if Michael Gove quit politics. I think it is going to be a hard place to be with the aftermath of Brexit, continuing Covid issues and a weakened economy. I personally think that politicians, like Michael Gove and Johnson, will realise that Brexit was a monumental mistake and we really should have stayed in the EU. It's like a school becoming an academic and realising they can't go it alone, and wanting back in or staring pessimistically at a far more tedious amalgamation.

I think Hancock will leave politics, Johnson, when he can, even some other ambitious ones and potential leader contenders, who have seen how hard the pandemic has been to get right.

Lots of women pull other women down.
It's just what they do , sadly. :(
( had it happen to me loads of times)
I don't like Sunak at all ; I still maintain he is dangerous, but he'll appeal to the voters and that's what matters isn't it? I think he gets the most positive press out of all of them.

Diverse - I think you are right. They will scarper as soon as they can decently do so.

@Peregrina

Diverse - I think you are right. They will scarper as soon as they can decently do so.

I so hope you’re both right.

He has a a prefect/slimy Apprentice candidate aura about him, in fact they all do.

Seriously??? I think they have all been more entertaining and watchable if not particularly likeable.

And yes I include HER in that.

Gove quit politics???! Freely? Of his own free will? Without being legally barred??? Whilst the Conservative party are in power and Labour have less chance of being elected than you being keep ice for 10 mins in Vancouver atm?

Gove have self awareness and acknowledge even to himself that Brexit was a disaster for other people?? (Brexit has been a gift to Gove himself in various ways).

Sorry, but I'm not convinced you know that much about politics!

@Peregrina

Diverse - I think you are right. They will scarper as soon as they can decently do so.

No.

Johnson will scarper when he's bored and skint and wants an easier life.

Gove will scarper when his opportunities to become PM are all finally exhausted (that by the way is a good 10 years or more at least thanks to Labour - or due to criminal disbarment which unfortunately isn't likely to be on the cards).

They will scarper as soon as they can decently do so.

I wonder how long the DM will keep Vine on as one of their highest paid columnists once the links with the top of the tory party are severed?