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That Sarah Vine column

557 replies

candycane222 · 02/07/2021 17:23

Well twitter.com/joepike/status/1410993004874248193?s=19

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Blossomtoes · 03/07/2021 11:45

@Ifailed

They will scarper as soon as they can decently do so.

I wonder how long the DM will keep Vine on as one of their highest paid columnists once the links with the top of the tory party are severed?

Do you think they’ll be severed? I bet she’s got lots of mates who’ll happily pass all the latest gossip on to her.
RedToothBrush · 03/07/2021 11:45

@Ifailed

They will scarper as soon as they can decently do so.

I wonder how long the DM will keep Vine on as one of their highest paid columnists once the links with the top of the tory party are severed?

See even if that happens, I think a career in fiction writing or an autobiography will probably keep her going for a few years. And she'd probably get a stint on Loose Women at some point too.

I doubt her career is likely to be over that soon.

yodaforpresident · 03/07/2021 11:47

I've always said he looked like Pob!!

Notonthestairs · 03/07/2021 11:47

If (as mentioned on this thread) Murdoch likes Gove and wants him as PM - why? Why Gove and not Hunt/Patel/Javed? Wouldn't they all equally serve a purpose?

Ifailed · 03/07/2021 11:48

@RedToothBrush

Vine already has a long career in writing fiction.

midsomermurderess · 03/07/2021 11:50

At least the Daily Mail won't need to play wedding-ring bingo with these two.

the80sweregreat · 03/07/2021 11:53

If Labour kick out Sir Kier and get themselves organized that would help massively
As it is , the tories don't have a credible opposition so they are sitting pretty with their huge majority.

DadOnIce · 03/07/2021 11:57

What's a 'jungle VIP'?? Google only brings up play centres...

Classica · 03/07/2021 11:57

@thecatfromjapan

You know, everyone keeps saying Gove is Murdoch's choice.

But ... he doesn't have that 'thing' that sways voters, does he?

I just can't see him as Leader of the Conservatives. I don't think they see him as electorally popular enough to be Leader.

No he doesn't. As per @RedToothBrush analysis of him earlier on he just does not have that charm that appeals to a wide enough chunk of the electorate. He does not have the x factor. He clearly desperately wants to be PM but the only way he'd get there would be if Johnson suddenly resigned and Gove somehow won a leadership bid. But I can't see the general public voting for him.

Especially not now there's handsome young Rishi Sunak with his lovely teeth and new puppy. And a very strong line in self-promotion. And of course, an equal determination to get to No 10.

Notonthestairs · 03/07/2021 11:57

the80s - And who will replace Starmer?

Classica · 03/07/2021 11:57

@DadOnIce

What's a 'jungle VIP'?? Google only brings up play centres...
'king of the swingers'

ahem.

OhWhyNot · 03/07/2021 11:58

Of dear poor Sarah unable to play the smug wife not that anyone believed it other than herself

Boris isn’t going anywhere anytime soon he is still far too popular with voters for the party to think of another leader but when he does go I think it will be for someone younger

I’m sure they shall start lining up Tobias Elwood he ticks many boxes

RamItBunty · 03/07/2021 12:04

@ClawedButler

Two ghastly people have each discovered that the other is ghastly.
Yes,perfect summation they are both frightful
Classica · 03/07/2021 12:04

I watched this earlier on Twitter, regarding Sarah Vine's calls for privacy after the divorce announcement. It's a clip from back in 2015 of Michael Portillo taking Sarah Vine to task for a bitchy column she wrote about Ed Miliband's wife Justine.

twitter.com/lbob15/status/1411221557419118597

HarrietPierce · 03/07/2021 12:10

"Diane Abbott is a blithering idiot who can barely string two words together so anything she says needs to be firmly ignored. She is a massive hypocrite who thinks the rules are for the plebs."

Oh you mean exactly like Johnson.

VestaTilley · 03/07/2021 12:11

Two journalist friends told us about it a while ago.

Interestingly is the person he’s allegedly shacked up with...but I can’t write it down else it’ll get deleted.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 03/07/2021 12:11

I think politics and the media is so toxic no one sane would ever go into it

So this , is what we get

We vote for it , and fuel the fire by talking about it

I don’t actually care if people cheat

I do care that our media and social media is so grim and toxic it feeds this shite

o8T8o · 03/07/2021 12:14

Pob? When I see Gove I think of Penfold

sadperson16 · 03/07/2021 12:15

I can just see Sarah on Loose Women now.
Weight loss,titbits of gossip about cabinet members,anti depressants,clothes......

RamItBunty · 03/07/2021 12:17

Sarah vine is habitually hateful and scathing about people

Classica · 03/07/2021 12:17

@o8T8o

Pob? When I see Gove I think of Penfold
the hideous Mark Francois (who's thankfully dropped out of sight. can't think why...) is Penfold too.
RamItBunty · 03/07/2021 12:18

Yes both Gove and Francois are odious

Guavafish · 03/07/2021 12:21

Nasty two!

Guavafish · 03/07/2021 12:23

Gove = Toad

RedToothBrush · 03/07/2021 12:25

He clearly desperately wants to be PM but the only way he'd get there would be if Johnson suddenly resigned and Gove somehow won a leadership bid. But I can't see the general public voting for him.

He's tried that already. He can't even get past the bit where Conservative MPs like him enough to vote for him.

The first time he tried it, he was in a popularity contest with Liam Fox, Stephen Crabb, Andrea Leadsom and Theresa May. Liam Fox is a man with a talent for being utterly useless and had a glittering career of scandal behind him. Stephen Crabb was forced to leave the contest for personal reasons. And Gove was knocked out by May and Leadsom.

Let me stress this. Tory MPs thought that Leadsom was more trustworthy/credible/capable/insert your own reasoning than Gove to lead the country.

Then three years later, we go through the whole thing again.

This time, just about every Tory MP sees this as the Big Opportunity. So theres lots of candidates. Gove has to work hard to repair his reputation after the previous backstabbing issue. Gove, once again can't beat third place, losing out to the more credible Hunt and the incredibly popular (and who most thought had it in the bag from the off) Johnson.

I do note here, that Johnson was felt to have 'cleared his decks of personal scandals' by ditching his wife and making it public that he was shagging Carrie in the run up to the the 2019 leadership election / general election to make him more electable and for it not to ruin his chances by it all breaking at a more crucial moment.

Rumour has been that Johnson is fed up and wants out and won't do more than one term.

Gove has slowly been trying to detoxify his image and make himself look capable. But he is still hugely disliked within his own party ranks.

Its widely known that there has been three camps briefing against each other for months - the Cummings Camp, The Johnson Camp and the Gove Camp though the Gove camp has managed to not get as much heat / public awareness.

So yeah that is at the back of my mind. But he still has to convince the Tory MPs to get through stage 1 of the Tory Leadership Election and then he has to convince the Tory Party Membership.

Quite frankly, keeping Gove out of No10 does seem like a good reason to join the Party tbh

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