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To ask my real dad for financial help

104 replies

Dudewheresmymoney · 01/07/2021 00:59

When we haven't seen or spoken to each other in years?

I'll try and make this short and sweet.

We've never had a proper relationship. My mum divorced him when I was 5. He was awful, abusive and a cheating alcoholic. Never touched me but I have blurred memories of him abusing my mum. He was married before he met my mum and had 3 kids from that relationship, never bothered with them either and if he did it was only because my mum encouraged him to. I know it was a difficult divorce which cost my mum thousands just because he was awkward and nasty. He owns his own company and has done for the last 25+ years. When my mum took him to court for maintenance he lied and said he was unemployed. He was able to get away with it because he made my grandma (his mother) the director of his company. She was 73 and he owned a building company Hmm.

Anyway, eventually my mum did win in court and he had to pay out, not very much that I'm aware of but by that point she had to use the money to pay off the court fee's etc.
After that he was granted excess and was suppose to have me every other weekend. He would pick me up on a Friday after school, drop me off at my grandmas and then pick me back up on a Sunday morning and take me home (whilst pretending he'd had me all weekend when really he was probably in the pub or out shagging about as usual). Over the years our contact decreased. As I grew up I realised how much of a manipulative arsehole he really was and decided to cut all contact, as did my other siblings. My mum pretty much raised me all on her own by working a full time job. Over the years he sent me random cheques in the post, £200 here or £50 there. Not that it ever amounted to what he'd actually have to pay if he'd been a decent father. I took the money, said thank you but we never reconciled. There was always a catch 22 when he sent money though. He would always text me afterwards asking if we could meet up or go for lunch etc. One year he asked me to spend Boxing Day with him instead of my mum and family (who have brought me up and always been there for me) Hmm I said no of course. No idea why he thought I'd agree in the first place Confused.

Now he's in 60's and I'm 25 working full time. Have been renting for years but desperate to get on the property ladder but it's just so expensive. I've saved and saved for a long time but need more to even be excepted. My mum doesn't have any money and I wouldn't want her to go into debt to help me. I'm sure she would though. Step dad will happen but I'd have to pay it all back of course. My dad still owns his company, lives in a nice house in a gated community, nice cars etc.. you get the picture. He's got a few quid in the bank. I've not spoken to him in around 7 years now and if I did get in touch it would only be for money. I would make that very clear if he asked what my motives were: I have no issues with it and I believe it's his fault that's why things are the way they are anyway. I know my other siblings have recently reconnected with him, one of them even started working his company but I know it's only because they want his money. AIBU to ask him for financial help towards buying a property? Since he's done sweet FA for me my whole life anyway. The worst he can do is say no and I would make it clear that we will never have a relationship, I just want the money so if he sees his arse after that then fine. I will survive without him like I always have.

My mum is also a bit upset that she can't help me more and doesn't want him to think I'm desperate for his money. I've never needed it before so why now. Personally I don't give a shit what he thinks.

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Dudewheresmymoney · 01/07/2021 00:59

Sorry, that was not short and sweet was it 🙈

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Kanaloa · 01/07/2021 01:14

I wouldn’t do this. Firstly, this is not a person you want to be indebted to. Secondly, nobody is entitled to help with a property, it’s expensive and difficult but that’s unfortunately how it is. Third, it will feel a lot of better when, in the future, you can afford a property of your own rather than feeling you have begged it off a man who you have basically no relationship with.

Cheesypea · 01/07/2021 01:18

You can ask. You have nothing to lose, what if he says no?

OrrisRoot · 01/07/2021 01:21

I wouldn’t personally, for several reasons.

Micemakingclothes · 01/07/2021 01:22

Don’t do it. Work two jobs. Move to a cheaper city. Eat nothing but beans on toast for the next few years. Don’t go to that man with your hand out for something you can do yourself. It’s not worth your dignity.

WindyWindsor · 01/07/2021 01:26

Don't use people. Don't manipulate people.

You've learnt how bad this is from his previous behaviour, so why do it yourself? Because he deserves it? Maybe. But why stoop to this level?

It's a no from me.

FrankButchersDickieBow · 01/07/2021 01:30

If my dad had been abusive to my mum and treated me like shit all my life, I wouldn't want a penny of his stinking, toxic money.

Everything I looked at in my home he had paid for, would be tainted.

HeyDugeesCakeBadge · 01/07/2021 01:47

Seemingly going against the grain here but I would, you have nothing to lose. It is the least he owes you.

grapewine · 01/07/2021 01:53

Don’t go to that man with your hand out for something you can do yourself. It’s not worth your dignity

Agree with this.

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peachyandkeen · 01/07/2021 02:09

Do it OP - he owes you.

Taliskerskye · 01/07/2021 02:14

You know he’s not going to give you the money don’t you.

Twolostsoulsswimminginafishbow · 01/07/2021 02:14

I wouldn’t want anything tainted by him.

gobackanddoitproperly · 01/07/2021 02:22

@peachyandkeen

Do it OP - he owes you.
Absolutely he does. Do it. The money will only be tainted if you let it be.
itsaccrualworld · 01/07/2021 03:14

What makes you think he'd give you the money?

You may think he should pay up in some version of compensation for being a shit father, but he gets nothing out of this arrangement. You've ignored him for years and intend to continue ignoring him.

Do you think he'd give you the money as it's the right thing to do? You know first hand he is not a nice person.

FWIW, 25 is young to buy a property these days. 30+ is more normal, given property prices. Spend the next 5 years saving as much money as you can, upskilling, pushing for promotions, and when you do eventually buy (without a shred of his help), it's going to feel amazing.

I think you hate the man enough for the delayed gratification to be worth it.

FiveShelties · 01/07/2021 03:45

I could not ask, I would not want a penny from a man like this.

ohthatbloodycat · 01/07/2021 05:47

YABU.

Mumdiva99 · 01/07/2021 05:54

Wow. He might be a shit father but what makes you think you are entitled to his cash now?

You are an adult. If you want property do what everyone else does and work hard, work extra, save hard and then buy.

The bit in your post that gets me is you saying my mum would get into debt to help me. Why the actual do you think a parent should get into debt to help an adult with a luxury purchase?

You need to grow up a bit. A parent is not just for cash. If you want to heal the rift with your father it's one thing. But don't go round asking for money. Have some self respect.

sandgrown · 01/07/2021 05:56

I would . He does not sound the sort who would think to do it . I know someone in a similar situation who did have a bit of a relationship with her feckless dad. He won a lot on the lottery and did actually give her snd her sibling some money voluntarily. It was a pittance in comparison to what he won but still a nice sum and I suppose he thought it would keep them quiet. When she worked it out it more or less just covered the maintenance he had never paid her mum.

Oceanbliss · 01/07/2021 06:05

@Dudewheresmymoney As I grew up I realised how much of a manipulative arsehole he really was and decided to cut all contact, as did my other siblings.

Personally, I wouldn’t want to allow a person who was manipulative or abusive into my life, not for any amount of money.

DeathStare · 01/07/2021 06:06

The worst he can do is say no and I would make it clear that we will never have a relationship
Saying no is NOT the worst he can do. There are other worse things he can do.

I don't mean this nastily but you sound rather naive. You may say that you will never ever have a relationship with him but taking money from him IS a relationship of sorts and once you enter a relationship with someone - even a very superficial one - that relationship has two people in it and is no longer entirely in your control. Given that you know he is a devious, manipulative, abusive man who lies and has no sense of fairness, he is a very risky man to start even the most shallow relationship with.

If he gives you the money what is to stop him then six months later coming regularly knocking on your door wanting to come in? He would certainly be able to spread a good sob-story to all and sundry about he gave you a house deposit and now you've cut him off. He could try to later take legal action claiming the money was a loan and you've never repaid him. There are probably hundreds of things he could do to make your life extremely difficult. Saying no definitely isn't the worst he could do, and given what you've said about him, hes quite likely to do those things.

81Byerley · 01/07/2021 06:18

For your own self respect, don't do it.

AbsolutelyPatsy · 01/07/2021 06:22

no why would you want his involvement at all?

TheWitchersWife · 01/07/2021 06:54

What would be the point?
This is a man who faked contact and just dumped you with his mother.
Who lied so he didn't have to pay to help raise you.
Who was abusive to your mother in front of you.
Who you have quite happily had nothing to do with for 7 years and who you plan to have nothing to do with in the future.
Why on earth would he just hand you thousands of pounds?
You could say because he's your father, but if he cared about that then your relationship would be intact.
So why get involved with him at all when realistically there's no chance at all he's going to give you the money.

Dudewheresmymoney · 01/07/2021 06:57

Thanks for the replies, interesting to see different opinions

@Mumdiva99 your comment really struck me. No where did I say that I "expect" my mum to go into debt for me. I just said she would, because that's the type of person she is. She would do anything to help me. As I said before, I've worked full time since leaving school and saved for years, never taken a penny off any one else. This is just a thought. And what makes me think I'm entitled to his cash now? Well, let's put it this way. If he did ever give me any money I'm sure it wouldn't amount to what he was suppose to pay had my mum pursued him for maintenance when I was growing up, so technically I suppose he does "owe" me, or actually my mum.

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