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AIBU ? Really sad about trip to the beach today.

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Tigertigertigertiger · 29/06/2021 20:03

I’m fortunate to live a 15 minute drive from a big sandy beach.
Today was hot so after work I went straight to the beach to swim .( it was freezing )

I’m really sad about the experience.

The beach was full of out of control barking dogs, children literally screaming at the top of their voices for no reason ( yes, it’s a theme of mine ) , but the saddest thing of all was the place was strewn with litter.

Plastic bottles, empty crisp bags, discarded takeaways, fag ends, empty drink cans ....
There were loads of bins around . Not that you need a bin to not litter.

I’m genuinely upset by this. Is this considered ok now ? What can be done about it if anything ? I’m properly upset.

OP posts:
GreyhoundG1rl · 30/06/2021 13:23

They've now started to wait until 8 on the dot in the morning before it starts so I suspect they've had complaints about folk having to listen to this from after 7am
That's unbelievable! They can control the volume at will, but actively choose to let loose at what they judge (wrongly) to be a less antisocial time Hmm

ElephantOfRisk · 30/06/2021 13:43

Yep! I accept that I can be a grump but I'm off work with stress at the moment and it wakes me up every sunny day and i'm often not getting to sleep until 3ish. Their back garden faces east so gets the best sun in the morning - ours is the opposite. I accept that the world does not revolve around me though and to be fair I could shut the windows tight and/or wear ear plugs.

I mean, I've had kids, I know they can be up early and aren't always the best at listening when asked to tone it down a bit but it's the fact that parents (mainly dad) don't seem to attempt to deal with it and in fact encourage it that is the issue for me. I've also considered that the child may have additional needs.

I'm doing my best to not rant about it in real life so here i am moaning on here.

bondgirl76 · 30/06/2021 17:31

omg..where do you live?..i went to my local beach today..and it is pristine...I live in Suffolk.Bins for dog poos..bins for paper waste..and a bin for everything else.Dont undetstand

Terhou · 30/06/2021 17:48

Of course people shouldn't leave litter, but it sounds like this is a popular beach. Can you move along the coastline to something more secluded?

EmeraldShamrock · 30/06/2021 17:52

Yanbu about the rubbish, some humans are a filthy race thinking they can leave their rubbish in public places.
There is a mentality the council can clean it, we pay taxes however the money could be put to better use.

Dailywalk · 30/06/2021 17:52

Completely agree. Lots of litter where I am but my free pickers I got from the council were rubbish and broke. I’m not forking out 20quid for decent set just to pick up after disgusting lazy people.
Kids and dogs wouldn’t bother me.

Prinzy · 30/06/2021 17:52

Some posts are taking about how great it is for life to be drifting somewhat back to normality, others seem to be here complaining about that return to normality! The litter is disgusting and I think it’s one of those things that should be absolutely admonished! But the dogs and the children, this is what life looks like, noisy and full of people/animals.

caringcarer · 30/06/2021 18:02

I have 2 dogs of my own but really I don't agree dogs should be running around the beach. Most sandy beaches have a dog ban butany selfish idiots just ignore it. We always take a spare carrier bag for litter and take it home to go in our own bin as bins at the beaches are often overflowing with rubnish.

DanceItOut · 30/06/2021 18:17

No excuse for littering. None. One of my kids once dropped rubbish from a sweet wrapper on the floor and I very loudly said “what did you just do?! I hope I didn’t just see you littering when you can physically see a bin!” And made them pick it up and put it in the bin while all the strangers around us stopped and watched. They were six and neither of my kids has ever done it again.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 30/06/2021 18:19

I voted yanbu because of the litter, which is awful.

I also agree dogs should be kept under control in public places like the beach - especially when it’s busy

Can’t get upset about kids making noise though.

Frazzledmum123 · 30/06/2021 18:25

The kids, I get its annoying but ffs they aren't allowed to be loud anywhere these days, in general public- no, in their gardens - no, on a beach - no, not even in their own homes unless you live miles away from anyone else. I mean I wouldn't let my kids have a screaming contest like you said but kids are loud and they need some places to let off steam.
The dogs, obviously they should be under control but there are so few beaches that allow dogs this time of year that if you chose one of the rare ones that does then I dont have a lot of sympathy there either I'm afraid
The litter though, absolutely disgusting and no excuse whatsoever. People are so self entitled these days that they think someone else will come along and clear up after them, makes me really angry too x

angela99999 · 30/06/2021 18:42

@PumpkinKlNG

Well they do it round here, they organise litter picking groups and they go all over the area cleaning, rather than just sitting at home complaining about it...
I think that the OP's point is that it shouldn't happen. Why should local people have to do it, or pay for it through their council tax? I also went to the beach this morning, one side is meant to be dog-free but as often happens there were people on both sides.
NewPapaGuinea · 30/06/2021 18:43

There is literally no excuses for littering. People who do it are scum.

loopylindi · 30/06/2021 18:47

as a child I was told to save screams for an emergency! (though what an emergency was wasn't properly explained)

Beastieboys · 30/06/2021 18:54

I must admit that I don't get the current trend for kids shrill screaming! Shouting and laughing and playing loud games fair enough but scream g for no reason is bloody annoying and they aren't all little kids either!

amispeakingenglish · 30/06/2021 18:57

We have litter like that in our parks/forest , pre covid it was on a Monday after the weekend, during lockdown & furlough it has been all the time, so it shows who leaves the litter. The normal weekday users, dog walkers, retired, mums with small children, don't leave rubbish (apart from the ones who leave dog poo bags hanging from trees??!!) The picnic stuff, beers etc are those who were off work. What is wrong with them, would love to empty a bin bag of it in their living room!

whataboutgus · 30/06/2021 18:57

Kids shrieking is just life

Litter is not ok

Dogs shouldn't be on the beach in June

Is there another dog free beach?

NotPersephone · 30/06/2021 19:04

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Mamanyt · 30/06/2021 19:08

There are "dog free" beaches, even if not so conveniently located to you. Find one. As for the kids...the beach is...THE BEACH. To expect them not to behave in that way is utterly unreasonable.

However, your complaint about the litter is dead-on. I have never gone to the beach without a small plastic bag to hold my/our litter, and I tend to police the immediate area as well. My motto is, "Leave this place just a bit better than you found it.

LowlandLucky · 30/06/2021 19:27

colincarrot 23 degrees here in S.W Scotland today. OP the litter and the dogs are a massive problem, the children having fun is not but the ones that just stand a scream for no reason are a bloody pain in the backside.

KarmaLife · 30/06/2021 20:11

I agree with you OP.

I don't think the OP has any issues with children having fun or being noisy, she particularly called out the "screaming contest".... of course that's unnecessary and going to be annoying and their parents should have done something about it. It's just about being considerate to other people around you.

It's not about stopping children enjoying themselves just teach them to do it in a way that doesn't p.... people off around them.

As for the litter - just agree there's some really odd comments being made here.

I would ask anyone of those 'odd' posters - do you actually drop litter and if so why do you think it's acceptable?

Ineke · 01/07/2021 03:24

Litter. Is getting worse. Some generations now think nothing of leaving their trash behind.I was taught as a child to leave nothing but footprints, so, maybe, this lesson has not passed on between generations lately. I heard one story of someone sat in a car in a traffic jam who saw red when someone in another car just threw out a plastic drinks bottle out the window, she leapt out the car, picked up the bottle and threw it back into the culprits car.They were so taken aback they said nothing. Some people just need to be taught acceptable behaviour and how to appreciate and care for their surroundings, it is not the Councils job to pick up our trash, what is the matter with people, their mind set needs serious adjusting. In Singapore you would be fined instantly if you dropped even a cigarette end. On the spot fines for littering may help.

Kinsters · 01/07/2021 04:39

I agree with you being annoyed about the litter. Kids are allowed to scream though. And if it's a dog friendly beach then dogs are allowed to run around there.

Meatshake · 01/07/2021 07:38

If you're not a dog person then go to literally any other beach where they're not allowed, it's a ballache finding a dog friendly beach in summer.

Kids can scream and play on the beach. Better there than in your neighbours garden!

I'm with you regarding the litter though.

Arbadacarba · 01/07/2021 07:39

There are "dog free" beaches, even if not so conveniently located to you

I'd be surprised if the OP couldn't find one. Our little fella is sadly no longer with us, but in our many years together, we found more beaches were dog-free or had large dog-free sections May - September than not.

I think part of the OP's complaint is that the dogs were out of control, though, which is reasonable. Even if you're on a dogs welcome beach, your dog shouldn't interfere with others' enjoyment.

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