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AIBU to ask how come Britney Spears had an IUD fitted without her permission?

116 replies

ThisIsStartingToBoreMe · 24/06/2021 21:55

I mean, her father has had conservatorship for 13 years but an IUD is only valid for 5-10 years so could someone explain it to me? Surely it couldn't have been inserted without her permission?

OP posts:
Peach01 · 25/06/2021 07:33

@3Britnee
She didn't lose custody, the custody order was because her dad punched her kid

She had temporary custody of her kids after her divorce and then lost it in 2007. In 2019 she gained 30%.

dayswithaY · 25/06/2021 07:39

I have read a theory that her boyfriends have been "hired" by her guardians and introduced to Britney to keep her happy. She may have no idea about this.

I struggle to understand how else she met someone and began dating in a conventional sense if she was being controlled and drugged 24 hours a day for years.

The whole thing is a horror story. Poor Britney.

userchange8945 · 25/06/2021 07:40

OP you're being deliberately obtuse, sounds like you're just trying to find ways to discredit the testimony of a desperate woman.

vivainsomnia · 25/06/2021 07:48

This thread is upsetting. We have no idea what is going on with Britney, the details of her relatii ship with her dad and those around her, and certainly not how her mental health disorders affect her.

It's not uncommon at all to suffer from serious mental health, that leads to very concerning behaviours to themselves and others at times, whilst seeming and acting very normally at times.

It's upsetting to see a young lady's life affected by mental.heslrh as it has Britney but there are many thousands of people just like her in the world.

What Britney needs most is her privacy, not numerous speculation on how she is coerced, controlled, manipulated and used with the oy I formation available being what the press is gleefully sharing.

userchange8945 · 25/06/2021 07:56

What Britney needs most is her privacy, not numerous speculation on how she is coerced, controlled, manipulated and used with the oy I formation available being what the press is gleefully sharing.

Privacy? And let the abuse continue? Have you been listening at all? Have you read into conservatorships in the US and understand the degrading all consuming power they allow whilst enabling the conservator to financially benefit? Do you recognise at all that Britney can not rebel it at all for appearing "psycho" and further cementing the conservatorship.

Your post is shameful.

wherewildflowersgrow · 25/06/2021 08:06

Even though her father is shameless and the conseratorahip wrong, it's true that she DOES need privacy.-not to have constant speculation in every newspaper every day.

AlternativePerspective · 25/06/2021 08:06

TBH I think that we will never know exactly what is happening and who is responsible for what.

It’s very easy to sit on the sidelines and say that “her family are abusive/are controlling her/have kept her drugged,” etc etc etc and on the face of it the fact that she is under a cnservatorship makes it all the harder to form a realistic judgement.

Cnservatorships seem brutal because as a general rule they are controlled by someone close to that person. But in truth a conservatorship isn’t unlike a section, apart from that sections are carried out by professionals.

It’s actually not possible to know whether she is mentally ill or not. But tbh, while in theory it seems wrong for her to have an IUD and to be prevented from having another baby, in reality I think that her not having another baby can only be a good thing, especially for any baby/child who could be born into a situation with a seriously mentally ill mother and controlling extended family. That’s no life for any child.

Rachie1973 · 25/06/2021 08:10

[quote InTheNameOfAllThatIsHonest]@Flippittyflopperty an IUD does not stop your periods.[/quote]
Depends what IUD the PP is thinking about. Many people with the newer Mireya type have no periods

userchange8945 · 25/06/2021 08:15

@AlternativePerspective whilst I don't doubt there are two sides to the story, it's very hard to justify a conservatorship of this kind. If anyone cared for the welfare of Britney would they be putting her intensely to work, making £100 million she can't even spend herself. The fact people around her are financially benefitting from this control is extremely uncomfortable, it's far too much of a conflict of interests.

userchange8945 · 25/06/2021 08:17

Even though her father is shameless and the conseratorahip wrong, it's true that she DOES need privacy.-not to have constant speculation in every newspaper every day.

I hope people keep talking about this horrendous situation to put pressure on the conservatorship reassessment, if people leave the family be I fear the male control of this woman will continue for as long as she can make money for them. This situation needs a spotlight on it.

thyroidhelp · 25/06/2021 08:21

I do believe there are two sides to this story, if Britney is fully telling the truth about all this then it's shocking but at the end of the day - none of us have her medical records or know what's going on other than Britney and a testament from her. Anything could be happening behind the scenes,

Fair enough she doesn't have access to internet etc but what about her boyfriend? Remember Sam lufti? Sounds to me like she could be jumping from the frying pan to the fire

IDontReadEyebrows · 25/06/2021 08:21

I feel so sorry for her. I kind of assume she’s being blackmailed or coerced. For example: “you keep your IUD or you won’t be allowed to have your sons to stay” or something. I could be wrong but my own children are definitely my motivation so I imagine Britney’s sons are hers.

There’s so much wrong with all of this. She’s so vulnerable and it’s shocking that someone with so much wealth has so little control of their own life. Apparently for the first year of this twisted arrangement with her father she wasn’t allowed to get her hair done, her nails, massages or anything “self care” wise. How was making her feel lousy about her appearance going to help her mental health?

thyroidhelp · 25/06/2021 08:23

To add, I think the the problem might be who the conservator is rather than the actual conservatorship - and also it shouldn't be permanent. It should be a temporary power used only if and when her mental state gets bad again.

These legal arrangements exist here too.

wherewildflowersgrow · 25/06/2021 08:25

It's true there are 2 sides to every story, but everyone in this world who is not an incarcerated criminal has a right to self determination. Unless temporarily sectioned. Including making mistakes.

End of.

sparemonitor · 25/06/2021 08:35

Ah ok. So she's had it in for more than 13 years then? Isn't that medically concerning?

I'm not au fait with the whole story but on this issue no, not concerning. Every doctor who removes coils has their 'record' for how long one has been in. My record is a coil that had been in for 26 years when I took it out - post menopausal woman who had just never bothered to get it removed. She was fine.

PopLife · 25/06/2021 08:42

The laws around guardianship in the US seem absolutely twisted. No-one should ever be able to financially profit from another person's vulnerability. Reminds me of the film I Care A Lot on Netflix with Rosalind Pike. The whole system seems like state enabled elder abuse and abuse of the mentally ill.

Chamonixshoopshoop · 25/06/2021 08:48

As others have said I don’t understand the whole controlling her life piece.
In this country a mentally un well person gets medical help, if they’re a danger they’d go to a medical facility or be closely monitored in the community. (By medical professionals.)

As an adult, Their Dad wouldn’t be able to take control of their life? By law? Or am I massively missing something?

dottiedodah · 25/06/2021 09:10

I find it incredible and somewhat alarming ,that in the 21st century,a young woman is under the control of her overbearing father? Surely something needs to be sorted out sooner than later? Not just the IUD but all aspects of her life are under his control! She has a fortune of around 60 million dollars, but is only allowed 2k a week .Its like something from the 18th century when women "belonged" to their father and were "given away " upon marriage FFS!

dottiedodah · 25/06/2021 09:24

As an aside ,I think people saying it is "easy" to remove your own IUD. May be for some ,but I would see Naga Manchatty review of her IUD implant ,which was very painful to insert and also upon removal as well . It would be best to see a GP, as there is also the risk of Infection to consider also

randomkey123 · 25/06/2021 09:35

I think that there is obviously far more to this situation than meets the eye. We're all just speculating.

But I don't think that anyone in her family has her best interests at the heart of this situation and hope that she is free to choose someone she can trust from now onwards.

JesusMaryAndJosephAndTheWeeDon · 25/06/2021 09:36

@Chamonixshoopshoop

As others have said I don’t understand the whole controlling her life piece. In this country a mentally un well person gets medical help, if they’re a danger they’d go to a medical facility or be closely monitored in the community. (By medical professionals.)

As an adult, Their Dad wouldn’t be able to take control of their life? By law? Or am I massively missing something?

You are missing the fact that the law is different in the USA and this arrangement is sanctioned by law. It seems a draconian law and one which is open to massive abuse.
vivainsomnia · 25/06/2021 09:49

Privacy? And let the abuse continue? Have you been listening at all?
Listening to whom? The Media? That organisation that only care about money and to get it, will only release I formation that gathers sensationalism?

I have no idea what Britney's life is like. What I do know is that noone but those close to her, personally and professionally do know.

You have no idea whether she is abused only you have access to sources that are not those of the media. She doesn't need keyboard warriors to define her life and diagnose her.

felulageller · 25/06/2021 10:00

It's horrific!

userchange8945 · 25/06/2021 10:10

@vivainsomnia don't be so ignorant, do you only form an opinion if you have all the facts and figures in front of you, how could you possible ever vote! Removing all the media attention, you only need to look at the conservatorship itself and Californian law to see how despicable this situation is, no one is disputing there are mental health issues at play here, but if she was that ill why on Earth are they allowed to put her to work making millions, she can't make any decisions, but they are allowed to make her work that intensely, does that sound like someone whose welfare is being put first?

InTheNameOfAllThatIsHonest · 25/06/2021 10:38

[quote Flippittyflopperty]@InTheNameOfAllThatIsHonest it does for quite a few women - I’m just wondering if it did for her and thats been a bonus to keep her performing[/quote]
Are you sure? IUDs are actually well known for making periods longer and heavier... unfortunately I'm one of those who experienced that first hand.