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To wonder if this Zara model is a healthy size?

400 replies

MondayYogurt · 20/06/2021 21:34

Most models are tall and slim but something just made me stop and look at these pictures for longer, wondering.

Is it just photoshop?

To wonder if this Zara model is a healthy size?
To wonder if this Zara model is a healthy size?
OP posts:
lardylegs123 · 21/06/2021 18:53

Very thin.
I fucking hate Zara though!

P0lestar · 21/06/2021 19:05

I have an anorexic daughter. The legs in the first pic ring big alarm bells for me. Ditto her hands, drawn face and miserable expression in the second pic. Frankly I think Zara are irresponsible. Eating disorders have multiplied and teenagers are impressionable. They are glamorising anorexia. If you only knew the agony families go through. Did they really not have alternative models they could have used?Hmm

P0lestar · 21/06/2021 19:07

Zara appeals to young girls has a responsibility to its clientele. I certainly won’t be letting my dd shop there.

Namechangeme1 · 21/06/2021 19:12

This ASOS model is certainly not healthy because I think this is promoting diabetes, high blood pressure, cancer and many more illnesses.

Do people have the same passion about banning these types of models too? It works both ways.

P0lestar · 21/06/2021 19:17

Frankly I couldn’t give a stuff. Anorexia causes the most mental health deaths. It’s lethal and incredibly difficult to stop once it takes hold. Retailers have a responsibility not to trigger eating disorders or to make them worse.

Namechangeme1 · 21/06/2021 19:19

Obesity is the worlds biggest killer - certainly kills more people than anorexia does. Honestly, how overweight and obesity is being glamorised these days is mind blowing to me.

P0lestar · 21/06/2021 19:21

Ok well start a thread. This is about pictures glamorising extreme thinness.

Pinuporc · 21/06/2021 19:21

There is a small minority of people who are naturally skinny to a point that it could be an illness when it’s not.

....and miraculously nearly all of them have found, and commented on this thread.

Namechangeme1 · 21/06/2021 19:25

And I'm making the point that why does thinness always her picked on? And people seem to think it's acceptable - but call out overweight people and there's riots.

secsee · 21/06/2021 19:31

@Pinuporc

There is a small minority of people who are naturally skinny to a point that it could be an illness when it’s not.

....and miraculously nearly all of them have found, and commented on this thread.

Because I'm skinny and this is a thread about body image/size. Why wouldn't we click?

Such a weird comment. Not everyone is as tall as this model, but you're now denying skinny people even exist? lol

P0lestar · 21/06/2021 19:32

I’ve seen several threads on larger models. Larger models don’t encourage us all to rush off and eat pies. Photos like those in the op encourage impressionable girls some of whom will already be mentally ill to restrict intake in an unhealthy way in order to aim for sn unattainable look.

secsee · 21/06/2021 19:34

Plus, I don't get why people would lie? What motive does an average/heavier person have to pretend to be skinny, why would they even care to do that?

Thin people are replying because some posters are being unnecessarily rude or body shaming. People are posting as they feel defensive.

coogee · 21/06/2021 19:36

… and miraculously nearly all of them have found, and commented on this thread.

What are you implying?

Namechangeme1 · 21/06/2021 19:37

@P0lestar

I’ve seen several threads on larger models. Larger models don’t encourage us all to rush off and eat pies. Photos like those in the op encourage impressionable girls some of whom will already be mentally ill to restrict intake in an unhealthy way in order to aim for sn unattainable look.
Larger models encourage the mindset it's ok to eat lots of food and that there's nothing wrong with it. It normalises it.
P0lestar · 21/06/2021 19:38

It’s be not all about you. Woopy do you’re skinny. My dd is skinny as are many other teenagers many of whom are battling EDs. The world and his wife knows young girls want to emulate fashion pics. Retailers have a responsibility. They could have used another model.

P0lestar · 21/06/2021 19:41
  1. I’d love to see the evidence, I certainly don’t buy into that

  2. start a thread on it if it bothers you

This is about the irresponsibility of Zara with its use of unhealthily skinny models.

Pinuporc · 21/06/2021 19:44

Such a weird comment. Not everyone is as tall as this model, but you're now denying skinny people even exist? lol

No of course not. The thread title doesnt include anything about body image.
In RL it is fairly unusual to meet lots of people with the same figure as the model (the average height for a woman I think is about 5'4 or 5'5, for example so it stands to reason only a very small proportion of people will be 6" above average and naturally that shape) and some pp have considered whether it might be photoshopped. I know several people who are naturally skinny, including some members of my family, but they are different heights, not all 6' tall, and I dont think any have thighs the same width as their ankles.
....but on here everyone and all their family and friends are allegedly naturally this size and build...

Schmooo · 21/06/2021 19:45

My daughter looked like this when she had a BMI of around 15 and was close to hospitalisation. Nobody who is healthy has knees that are the widest part of their legs. Shame on Zara and I hope these young women are ok.

P0lestar · 21/06/2021 19:50

Schmooo exactly. The knees were the worry for me and I remember my DD’s looking the same. It’s kind of a bandy leg look, complete absence of thighs. You can spot it a mile off.

My ds is Uber skinny, he exudes health. He has muscle definition. The models in the pics are completely different.

Lulalu · 21/06/2021 19:55

Unfortunately my niece spent time in an anorexia unit early last year. I was shocked when i saw some of the girls in there. I’m afraid to say, their legs looked like the model’s legs in the first photo. Unfortunately though, they also had haunted, skeletal faces and poor skin and hair too. For some, the teeth were falling out and they were losing their sight. None of them menstruating.

It’s the legs that have been photoshopped in the first photo - definitely. Not sure about the rest of her. The second photo she is very slim but the legs are not like in the first photo.

coogee · 21/06/2021 19:58

but on here everyone and all their family and friends are allegedly naturally this size and build...

Everybody? How many exactly?

P0lestar · 21/06/2021 19:59

2nd pic’s hands speak volumes. My DD’s were v similar. Ditto upper arms. She isn’t happy. That isn’t a pose it’s an unhappy woman.

SingingInTheShithouse · 21/06/2021 20:05

I feel for all of you dealing with DCs suffering with EDs & watching them eat or not eat themselves sick. It's bloody hard!!

But the thing is, it works both ways. I have a beautiful & naturally very slim 18yo DD, but because of thin shaming shit like this thread, she's just as uncomfortable in her own skin & eating herself sick.

She has underlying health problems that means she needs a very healthy low carb, high fibre natural diet with supplements to stay well. Only she wants hips to match her boobs & more curves than she has due to thin shaming & a fashion for big bums. Consequently she is constantly stuffing her face on sugar, white carbs & processed foods & drinks that we already know her system can't tolerate & is suffering health wise as a result. All to put weight ON!!

That sort of diet takes its toll on anyone though, that's proven, but in my DDs case it's magnified & can put her in hospital as she's prone to blockages & colitis. So I really do understand what you are going through, but from the opposite side of the fence. IYSWIM

Making thin a sin, is just as bad as fat shaming. Not showing slim models alongside every other size of model, is not the answer as it shames girls, women & men too who are naturally slim. That's not okay anymore than fat shaming is.

It's should be about being comfortable in & loving their own amazing bodies, no matter what size or shape they are.

It shouldn't be about avoiding any shape or size, but including them ALL & making the differences not only acceptable, but celebrated & relevant to everyone. We've worked really hard to keep that balance with ours & she has a mostly sensible head on her shoulders, but Social Media has a lot to answer no matter how hard we try & combat it, it gets through, especially if there's other stuff in their lives that stresses them, it becomes something they can control because of that too.

The media in general need to do way more, but not like this.

P0lestar · 21/06/2021 20:20

But ultra skin models are the norm and are over represented. They do not depict the average female body. By all means chuck in a few healthy model pics but that model doesn’t look healthy or happy. She’s designed to look anorexic and probably is.

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 21/06/2021 20:26

@SingingInTheShithouse

Urgh, have a bloody word with your bitchy assed judgemental selves Hmm

If this was an "isn't she too fat to be healthy thread" there would rightly be an uproar, but thin shaming is fine Hmm it really isn't fine

Some people are naturally very slim & can eat what they like & it never show.

I used to be one & got sick & tired of the judgment & "you need to eat more pies" comments from often jealous & always judgey assed people. It's never okay Angry

No, I've seen very similar threads about overweight models and it generally goes the same way. Why would you think people were jealous of you being underweight, or extremely skinny? That's quite a dangerous way to look at it. I'm not over weight, but I could be doing with losing a few pound (post pregnancy) and I'm not jealous of that woman. Would I like to be slimmer yes, but I would rather be my size than that size.