To wonder if this Zara model is a healthy size?

[MondayYogurt]

Most models are tall and slim but something just made me stop and look at these pictures for longer, wondering.

Is it just photoshop?

"Of the threads requesting help with outfits for example a certain % are size 16+ and plus size."

Yes, but it might still be less than in the general population.

"Some of the comments on this thread. Imagine if this model came across it and found people describing her as looking like she has a medical condition that causes elongated limbs, she looks sickly, ill and weird etc etc."

Surely, if you're a model and your body and face are your work, you should not be so sensitive to people commenting on it. She probably gets it at work all the time.
It's quite different if someone is appearing on a website just because they're in the news, for example.

@GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER

Sorry, *@Iminaglasscaseofemotion**’, but that’s just not true. Maybe in some cases, but certainly not all. You’ve evidently never met anyone who truly does eat plenty but remains extremely slim.

The ‘5 sugars’ bloke I mentioned earlier, told me that when he was an invariably very slim child, his mother used to make a sandwich to leave on his bedside table every night, since he would always wake up hungry in the middle of the night.

An extreme case, I dare say, but a fact. He’s in his 60s now and with a bit more meat on his bones, but still slim.

Sorry but that absolutely is true in most cases. Like you said, that example is an extreme case.

Some of the comments on this thread. Imagine if this model came across it and found people describing her as looking like she has a medical condition that causes elongated limbs, she looks sickly, ill and weird etc etc.

First of all any model will have heard far worse from within the industry and secondly if you do look sickly and ill in photos it’s something you need to hear both for the good of your health and for your career.

There is a small minority of people who are naturally skinny to a point that it could be an illness when it’s not. But ime the majority of models are dieting and working out to maintain their size and there is pressure to be super small.

It's hard to know because we don't know to what extent the photo is photoshopped.
What I will say is I know sisters, the elder one a model, who look exactly like this model. They are naturally very slim and outwardly appear to have no dysfunctional relationship with food/exercise.
I noticed you mentioned her wrists op, that is how mine look in real life/photos (I don't quite have the legs to match), I have very small bones and no fat - what you see is the tendons.
I'll be honest Zara gets the models posing in awkward positions which does the models no favours.
Majority of people are overweight these days. I'm a very healthy size 6/8 but often get comments.

@Gwenhwyfar

"Some of the comments on this thread. Imagine if this model came across it and found people describing her as looking like she has a medical condition that causes elongated limbs, she looks sickly, ill and weird etc etc."

Surely, if you're a model and your body and face are your work, you should not be so sensitive to people commenting on it. She probably gets it at work all the time.
It's quite different if someone is appearing on a website just because they're in the news, for example.

Why did you cut off the rest of the post where it says about other people who naturally look like that reading it? Anything to say about that?

"Why did you cut off the rest of the post where it says about other people who naturally look like that reading it? Anything to say about that?"

No. I don't have anything in particular to say about that. I only reply to certain comments that interest me.

Pretending that a size 14/16 is a model of health and the golden standard is twisted!

Nor did I suggest we should, although there's nothing wrong with 14/16 if the person is in proportion. People who wear these sizes aren't automatically overweight.

Urgh, have a bloody word with your bitchy assed judgemental selves

If this was an "isn't she too fat to be healthy thread" there would rightly be an uproar, but thin shaming is fine it really isn't fine

Some people are naturally very slim & can eat what they like & it never show.

I used to be one & got sick & tired of the judgment & "you need to eat more pies" comments from often jealous & always judgey assed people. It's never okay

The fashion industry is renowned for using very thin models, back in the 90's it was a real concern that it was promoting anorexia in young girls, this girl may well be naturally thin but let's not pretend that it's not seen as the ideal body shape for fashion models.

I also see a lot of people criticising plus size models, you read it hear all the time! People complain its promoting obesity and skewing what's seen as a 'normal' weight. All I hear is you are not allowed to fat shame plus size women, well as a plus size woman I get plenty of fat shaming, it certainly isn't seen as not ok to mention being overweight, fat jokes and comments are still very much part of society.

Models have to have a bmi of at least 18, how would people feel if models also had to have a bmi of less than 25?
Same argument, they should be healthy.

This sort of judgement is no better than fat shaming. My neighbours daughter is very very thin naturally. Tall and with legs that you might see on an anorexic person but actually she eats well and is very healthy.

@Postdatedpandemic

Models have to have a bmi of at least 18, how would people feel if models also had to have a bmi of less than 25? Same argument, they should be healthy.

Not true.

UN recommends 18, but only certain countries including France and Italy but not afaik the U.K. have legislation on it.

Btw a website recently worked out the BMI of some top models using the data given in modelling websites (which detail age, height and weight) and the average BMI was 16-17.

@HeckyPeck

Some of the comments on this thread. Imagine if this model came across it and found people describing her as looking like she has a medical condition that causes elongated limbs, she looks sickly, ill and weird etc etc.

Even just for people who naturally look like her, it could be awful to read.

I've always been that thin. Thankfully I no longer give a fuck what people think about what my body looks like as I don't exist to please other visually, but in my teens to twenties comments like these would have been incredibly hurtful.

I really think people should be more mindful of who might be reading these cruel comments.

She would probably think yeah I know, I've hated my body enough times myself in this industry with them photoshopping it and many rejections- why isn't what I actually look like good enough? (Clue: it is, just not in the eye of the aspirational fashion world).

Do you really think the image on the left has not been edited at all?

@TatianaBis

Btw a website recently worked out the BMI of some top models using the data given in modelling websites (which detail age, height and weight) and the average BMI was 16-17.

Wow. Shouldn't be allowed. It would also mean no overweight models either of course.

The first photo looks like bad photoshop to me. The second does have very thin wrists but that doesn't necessarily mean she's unhealthily thin, my husbands whole family run slim, he has a very physical job and eats like a horse but he remains very slim, his wrists aren't far away from that, it's just the way he's built.

@Gwenhwyfar

"Some of the comments on this thread. Imagine if this model came across it and found people describing her as looking like she has a medical condition that causes elongated limbs, she looks sickly, ill and weird etc etc."

Surely, if you're a model and your body and face are your work, you should not be so sensitive to people commenting on it. She probably gets it at work all the time.
It's quite different if someone is appearing on a website just because they're in the news, for example.

I don't think it is different.

Personally I don't make unkind comments about anyone's looks.

People are more than their shells.

Jesus. Imagine if I put a picture of a plus sized model up saying "is she a healthy size?" Either we don't get to comment on other women's weights or we do.

@AnUnoriginalUsername

Jesus. Imagine if I put a picture of a plus sized model up saying "is she a healthy size?" Either we don't get to comment on other women's weights or we do.

Well, no plus sized model is a "healthy" size, so I wouldn't see any problem with saying so.

@TatianaBis

Btw a website recently worked out the BMI of some top models using the data given in modelling websites (which detail age, height and weight) and the average BMI was 16-17.

No model agencies list weight, never have.

No model agencies list weight, never have

Mine certainly had my weight on file but this was 30 years ago now.

@TatianaBis , I'm sure they have the weights on file. They do not list them on the online model cards.

@SingingInTheShithouse

Urgh, have a bloody word with your bitchy assed judgemental selves

If this was an "isn't she too fat to be healthy thread" there would rightly be an uproar, but thin shaming is fine it really isn't fine

Some people are naturally very slim & can eat what they like & it never show.

I used to be one & got sick & tired of the judgment & "you need to eat more pies" comments from often jealous & always judgey assed people. It's never okay

This ^^

This thread is horrible and would not go down well if people were all commenting on overweight models and pointing out their fat thighs or dimpled elbows.

Some of my friends are this build, naturally, and it's quite horrid to hear some of the comments, if they order a salad they're eating rabbit food and if they order a burger it's about time they ate something.

I used to be very thin but my metabolism changed over time and I would describe myself as 'slim' but still got comments from other women in work about being 'too skinny'.

People need to stop with the body shaming full stop.

[quote Postdatedpandemic]@TatianaBis , I'm sure they have the weights on file. They do not list them on the online model cards.[/quote]
@Postdatedpandemic

Mine certainly wasn’t on my card. Either way my BMI was about 16.5 when I was modelling, and I’m quite athletic framed not lanky skinny. I’d think that was probably quite typical.