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To think my neighbour can drill a whole in my house to permanently hang a 15ft tarpaulin?

659 replies

Euro21widow · 18/06/2021 13:34

So, name changed as obviously outting as pretty sure this isn't a normal occurance!

My neighbour has drilled a hole in my (grade 2 listed) building so she can permanently hang a piece of tarpaulin about 15ft up (as high as my 1st floor roof) for "privacy". Surely she can't just do this? Where do I go from here? It blocks all the light out to my ground floor windows now. Have included (bad) diagram.

To think my neighbour can drill a whole in my house to permanently hang a 15ft tarpaulin?
To think my neighbour can drill a whole in my house to permanently hang a 15ft tarpaulin?
OP posts:
jadfiewahnds · 19/06/2021 00:05

This thread is so much more exciting than the football was tonight. Jawdroppingly CF neighbour, excellent diagram action. I hope it gets sorted soon OP, we are all behind you!

DdraigGoch · 19/06/2021 00:42

[quote Yesitsbess]@Euro21widow I do rather feel that whilst following all of the excellent advice here (phone your insurance company too) the entire family should adapt to your new 'Lords of the high seas' status. I'm thinking sea shanties, I'm thinking treasure raids, I'm thinking Rum.

I'm also now having extra giggles at her thinking it's her garden wall.[/quote]
I think that she should go for the full works. Think of the Admiral in Mary Poppins.

"Time gun ready?"
"Ready and charged, sir."
BOOM

Yesitsbess · 19/06/2021 00:44

YES!

MoppaSprings · 19/06/2021 01:33

@Euro21widow are you the poster that’s neighbour complained about DS singing the pirates of the Caribbean music for hours?

If so your CF neighbour is clearly making a point!

PartyNeeded · 19/06/2021 01:41

Just here for the excellent diagrams and annotations

ElGuardiandenoche · 19/06/2021 03:29

There will be rigging on the other side. Neighbour will scale the rigging with cutlass in her teeth to slash the sail free.

@GnomeDePlume as long as she doesn't channel the Sex Pistols while she is doing it Grin

SingingInTheShithouse · 19/06/2021 06:55

No!! Absolutely not. Contact your LA & a solicitor via your insurance

SingingInTheShithouse · 19/06/2021 06:57

Oh & FTR we had a neighbour do this to to attach a flag. I can't believe there's any CF like that 🥴

The noise was awful too, so EHL made him take it down pdq

SingingInTheShithouse · 19/06/2021 07:08

Oh & it's on your property if you want to just cut it down you can. & there's sod all she can do.

We had another neighbours WIFI wired into our box without our permission & it was interfering with our signal, no idea if it was even legal, but IP & neighbours couldn't have been less interested.
After trying to talk & get nowhere, I took the gardening sheers to the wires. Neighbours had the cheek to call the police on me. When the police realised it was on our property & they left & said we had every right in the circumstances

BlackAlys · 19/06/2021 07:34

As tempting as it is, don't cut or do anything to the sail shade. No point since it's the actual fixing that's now potentially doing structural damage and anyone investigating this needs to see it in it's entirety.

Photos all the way for evidence. This neighbour is taking the utter piss.

SingingInTheShithouse · 19/06/2021 07:39

You're right Black, but in my experience with a neighbours flag flapping around, they can cause horrendous noise disturbance too & that's not always something you want to wait to have fixed.

notanothertakeaway · 19/06/2021 07:44

This is exactly the kind if issue that legal expenses insurance will cover. It"# great you have it

Bellasblankexpression · 19/06/2021 08:23

Absolutely not especially on a listed building!

Singlebutmarried · 19/06/2021 08:46

Out of the window in the manner of sloth from the goonies

I really hope your listed consent people come good.

To think my neighbour can drill a whole in my house to permanently hang a 15ft tarpaulin?
BruceAndNosh · 19/06/2021 09:19

I'm assuming that as well as the high fixing on YOUR wall, it is also fixed at the other 2 corners (one of which might also be attached to your wall.
If it's reasonably taut, it would make an excellent surface to practice tennis or football against.
Repeatedly.
For hours.

Thanksforthat123 · 19/06/2021 09:25

Wow that’s totally mad! To have spent long enough planning and getting scaffolding in to put it up! What on Earth were the builders thinking? It’s absolutely unbelievable that a company would put their name to it too!
I’m pleased you are going in hard, shes definitely the type to escalate if she smells weakness. Sounds like classic “ive been here a long time so everything is my rules”. Eek

Serin · 19/06/2021 09:46

No reputable builder would have done this, they are very cautious where listed builders are concerned.
So now you have cowboys as well as pirates involved. It's turning into a musical theatre performance.

Serin · 19/06/2021 09:50

Reminds me of the thread from years ago when a MNr came home from holiday to find the neighbours had installed a door in the side of their house so they could acess the mumsnetters garden. Then accussed her of being cruel for not wanting to share her garden with their kids a dog.

HereIfYouNeedMe · 19/06/2021 09:56

@Serin what!!!!! I'd love to read that thread 😂

Its90minutestonight · 19/06/2021 10:00

Was that the SpanGran thread? Was all made up.

Womendohavevaginasnick · 19/06/2021 10:02

@Serin

Reminds me of the thread from years ago when a MNr came home from holiday to find the neighbours had installed a door in the side of their house so they could acess the mumsnetters garden. Then accussed her of being cruel for not wanting to share her garden with their kids a dog.
Now that's a zombie to raise!! Please find it for us 😂
Melroses · 19/06/2021 10:14

@Its90minutestonight

Was that the SpanGran thread? Was all made up.
Yep.
strawberryshortcake1 · 19/06/2021 10:18

@yellowsubmarines @Euro21widow we have a similar situation, our house is Georgian, sash windows, conservation area but is not listed, but our neighbours have attached things to the side of our house including a shed and barricaded an access gate. They also bolted a ladder into our utility room steps (long story). Getting police to do anything re criminal damage is hopeless, it's all "civil". Getting planning enforcement/council to day anything has also been hopeless and they have washed their hands and all got sloping shoulders. Neighbours are very aggressive/hostile. I'm watching this with interest, I hope your area is much better than ours.

DartmoorDoughnut · 19/06/2021 10:20

@Womendohavevaginasnick www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2991707-CFN-vanished-Spanish-grandma-patio-doors-I-dont-know-what-the-hell-to-call-this-thread-5 I wasn’t aware it was a troll but I loved them back in the day

MrsTulipTattsyrup · 19/06/2021 10:30

[quote strawberryshortcake1]**@yellowsubmarines* @Euro21widow* we have a similar situation, our house is Georgian, sash windows, conservation area but is not listed, but our neighbours have attached things to the side of our house including a shed and barricaded an access gate. They also bolted a ladder into our utility room steps (long story). Getting police to do anything re criminal damage is hopeless, it's all "civil". Getting planning enforcement/council to day anything has also been hopeless and they have washed their hands and all got sloping shoulders. Neighbours are very aggressive/hostile. I'm watching this with interest, I hope your area is much better than ours.[/quote]
Conservation area protection can only be fully enforced if there is an adopted Article 4 directive in place as SPD on the CA which specifically prohibits such things. The CO will have no teeth to prosecute if members have not had the will to adopt an Article 4, in which case they are even less likely to have the will to prosecute.

There is so much misinformation on this thread. I set out at the beginning what the appropriate route was but as ever, it seems that it’s the MN way to ignore someone who’s actually been working in this field for their whole career in favour of anecdotal advice. I’m not a council officer but there’s been a lot of vitriol for them here. They are ultimately bound by what their elected members will agree to, hence often bizarre planning and LB decisions based wholly on considerations which have no role in the planning process, but which officers then have to implement.