To think WHO are trying to commit organisational suicide? They’ve said that women of childbearing age should not drink alcohol AT ALL.

[RickiTarr]

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/16/accused-sexism-saying-women-childbearing-age-should-not-drink/

Alcohol consumption also affects male fertility and greater chances of birth defects

@Mummyoflittledragon

Perhaps people of ‘child having age’ since not all people can ‘bear children’

That would mean any male from the start of puberty to death. Men would never agree to this. Ergo restricting men on the basis of child creating was evidently not considered.

@Mummyoflittledragon exactly

@cariboucafe no, I can’t read that as “we suggest women of child-bearing age should be banned from alcohol” which is what people seem to be extrapolating

@PattyPan I think they see the "women of childbearing age," as being included in the "preventing drinking in pregnancy" element of the action point. I think it's a bit naive to presume they'd bother talking about "women of childbearing age" in the paragraph prior and then drop it altogether in the Action point.

@PattyPan they don't define at risk groups? Right after saying it they then go on to specify the groups they are talking about ie children, adolescents and women of childbearing age. Bit odd that the group most at risk of alcohol related death isn't even mentioned, don't you think?

@CaribouCarafe I am taking it the other way round, the action is the main/important part so if they actually meant all women of childbearing age (which I don’t think they do, they mean women who may get pregnant) they would put that in the actions. It’s like how you can skip reading the recitations when you look at EU legislation and go straight to the articles.

Yeah. Fuck off.

[quote PattyPan]@cariboucafe no, I can’t read that as “we suggest women of child-bearing age should be banned from alcohol” which is what people seem to be extrapolating[/quote]
It literally says:

"attention should be given to prevention of... drinking among pregnant women and women of childbearing age"

how much clearer do you want it to be?

Sorry my Fuck off was to the WHO.

@Kinsters that’s not what they’re saying, they’re saying the emphasis is on protecting at-risk groups, and preventing children drinking, and preventing pregnant women drinking. So 3 points of special emphasis. In action area 6 they actually do mention indigenous people, young people, unemployed people and family members of people with alcohol disorders as at-risk groups (no mention of women).

@siestalady well if that’s what they wanted member states to do it would have been clearer if they had put it as an action...

Strange timing. Have they maybe discovered an interaction with alcohol in covid-jabbees?

I am so angry I have nothing intelligent to say.

This makes me want to down vodka.

@TimeTravellingBrain strange timing? You think patriarchal bullshit is new? This is as old as time pet.

ever since they said Taiwan wasnt a country ive just ignored them

I found people policing what I consumed during pg wearing.

Poeple were often woefully informed and BBC Radio 4 More or Less recently has a section that found even the usually accepted harm consumables had very little crediable scientific basis behind often using huge amounts of food items or erring massivley on side of caution.

I think it's worry WHO is trying to expand this out to all women of childbearing age.

Though I do think alcohol fueled violence usually male should be tackled - and I think miminum prices schemes in Scotland and Wales have been tried and I think Scotland's has had some effect.

@ladygindiva

Sorry my Fuck off was to the WHO.

You’re not alone there.

@VettiyaIruken

Fuck me. Imagine having to present a bartender with a note from your GP confirming you've gone through menopause before you're allowed a shandy.

Wtf is with all the attempts to take control of women's bodies and lives? They'll be keeping us in pens next!

That under 25 poster will have to adapt some.

I'm at the stage in life where all the perimenopause symptoms have taken over my life. Could easily be 60 before I'm considered out of childbearing age.
That's a fuck of a long time to not drink.

Pfft, they can get lost.
It's that kind of attitude that says women can't think for themselves, that we can't make decisions ourselves, just a walking incubator
Patronising bollocks.
What about men of child bearing age?
Surely we should be concerned about their sperm quality if they're allowed to drink.

I’m 53. Business as usual then, wine, anyone?!

@Timetravellingbrain
You wot lol

I took it to mean they just think it would be best, in ideal circumstances. A bit like they recommend everyone breastfeeds for 2 years minimum. Not many people will do it.

@Mummyoflittledragon

Perhaps people of ‘child having age’ since not all people can ‘bear children’

That would mean any male from the start of puberty to death. Men would never agree to this. Ergo restricting men on the basis of child creating was evidently not considered.

That’s what I thought. Men won’t agree to forgo alcohol forever, so WHO decided to ignore the effect of alcohol on sperm. Women, OTOH, they felt able to direct...

I don't like where this is going.

My body, my decision.