Can we get rid of boris now please

[Workingfromhomeishell]

Absolutely sick of this frightened government. Let's get them out and go back to normal life please. Boris is a joke. One rule for him at G7 another for us plebs. He can piss off now thanks.

I blame Angus Deayton for all this. If he hadn't got sacked from Have I Got News For You none of us would have heard of him.

He tore the country apart (Brexit) for personal ambition.

@TomPinch, you missed out Heath, of whom my assessment would be "Not a twat, but acted like one nevertheless", and Wilson was good before he got ill.

My list is a little longer, it includes Douglas Home, upper class twat, and Macmillan.

I was too young to really remember him, but I don't think he was a twat. He actually seemed quite sensible (by Tory standards) when he was in the Lords.

@Boood

Can’t stand Johnson, but the prospect of Gove or Hancock is even worse. Sunak is the best of a really bad bunch. Starmer has been a total flop, such a massive disappointment. I don’t think there’s any British politician I’d be happy with at the moment. Maybe Yvette Cooper. We truly have got the politicians we deserve, anyone decent and intelligent wouldn’t touch the job with a barge pole, so we get left with the petty gigantic egos and megalomaniacs.

I think Sunak is a smiling viper. Seems pleasant and charming on the surface, but pure poison beneath.

Gove is a loathsome creature who I suspect would do even more damage to the poor, the vulnerable, the old, and the young. Halfcock is uselessness personified. Hunt seems ok and appears pleasant, but was, I think, in favour of effectively privatising the NHS. (My late DP had dealings with Hunt in the course of DP's work, and he said he was really nice on a personal level, and plainly very bright and quick to grasp complex stuff).

All the Tories who might have made half-decent PMs (Grieve, Gauke, Stewart, Clarke) got chucked out.

www.biospectrumindia.com/news/83/18940/delta-variant-putting-patients-at-high-risk-of-black-fungus-vikram-hospital.html

Enough experts there for you? You have no idea what I work in or my qualifications, it's the internet and anonymous. I'm just suggesting you have a look at what's happening since there seems to be an air of "oh well we're fine so any additional precautions are ridiculous". It isn't going away and just because Boris is a fumbling cockwomble is doesn't mean ignoring the bigger picture.

@TomPinch

They wouldn't.

I'm looking on aghast from outside the UK. For the very first time in my life, the US President looks statesmanlike and the UK PM is a dick.

Starmer isn't a dick.

Boris is making all 60m of you look like dicks in front of the whole world. The UK's selling point is that it's sensible and serious, Johnson is neither.

His government have lost in the courts repeatedly. They don't care because they have no character. Most of them are only in cabinet because they're loyal to Johnson, not because they're competent.

This isn't a left wing versus right wing issue, or even a Brexit issue.

Anyone who thinks the situation is normal is delusional.

I agree completely. It's embarrassing.

@Hawkins001

The brains and.connections and influence is vastly more important than a stylist hair style.

LOL

Raab Hunt or Stewart (if he bcame an MP) would all be far better than BJ, seems to be half cut most of the time.

Raab is a psychopath. Have you read the book he published a few years ago on social engineering?

@PolkadotSloth

Raab Hunt or Stewart (if he bcame an MP) would all be far better than BJ, seems to be half cut most of the time.

Raab is a psychopath. Have you read the book he published a few years ago on social engineering?

Brittania Unchained? the one written with Patel and few others in government, that one?

anyway, being a psychopath is a prerequisite for being a tory.

Boris Johnson though is even worse, anyone who fatrhers so many children but deliberately denies them a decent male roll model is a horrible person.

@Bluethrough yes that one.

He is a really nasty piece of work. So is Patel.

Gove and Johnson are simply entirely self-serving and have no convictions at all. They'll do whatever is best for them at any given time. Not that Gove or Patel are moral 😂, but I think they do have convictions (that are totally wrong) which probably makes them more dangerous.

I agree Johnson is a disgrace. It was always obvious he'd be an appalling Prime Minister. His lack of honesty has been known for decades, and his laziness. Granted the pandemic has shone more of a spotlight on his character flaw than a normal term in office would have, but him being incompetent should not be a shock to anyone who was paying attention to his time as a journalist or at City Hall prior to this. And yes, any man who treats women and children as he does, I can't fathom how any woman could vote for him but clearly some are doing so.

As for Sunak, he claims to have been an investment banker. 😂 He was so junior, people in the industry find it ridiculous that he could be entrusted with the economy. The man is married to a billionaire's daughter. People said Cameron was out of touch??

I don't think we've ever had such an incompetent, clueless and inexperienced cabinet. No surprise as it's all based on "will you do whatever Johnson says". They kicked anybody with any experience of skill out because - obviously - such people weren't in favour of Brexit.

I agree absolutely with @Boood's post at 10:51 that nobody with any integrity or intelligence or relevant experience would consider becoming an MP these days. Why would people leave highly skilled and stable careers that are less stressful, do not involve harrassment, and pay far more than MPs earn to potentially become an MP on a temporary contract, be subjected to the press/ public/ put their family at risk, also knowing that unless they sign up to some party mantra they'll never get anywhere with changing things anyway?

The whole system is broken. The only people who would consider it are those without the experience to be good at it, those who are meglomaniacs, or those simply trying to use it as a stepping stone to increasing their own wealth once they move on from it to higher paid roles they are equally unqualified for in the private sector.

It's a very sad state of affairs.

[quote PolkadotSloth]@Bluethrough yes that one.

He is a really nasty piece of work. So is Patel.

Gove and Johnson are simply entirely self-serving and have no convictions at all. They'll do whatever is best for them at any given time. Not that Gove or Patel are moral 😂, but I think they do have convictions (that are totally wrong) which probably makes them more dangerous.

I agree Johnson is a disgrace. It was always obvious he'd be an appalling Prime Minister. His lack of honesty has been known for decades, and his laziness. Granted the pandemic has shone more of a spotlight on his character flaw than a normal term in office would have, but him being incompetent should not be a shock to anyone who was paying attention to his time as a journalist or at City Hall prior to this. And yes, any man who treats women and children as he does, I can't fathom how any woman could vote for him but clearly some are doing so.

As for Sunak, he claims to have been an investment banker. 😂 He was so junior, people in the industry find it ridiculous that he could be entrusted with the economy. The man is married to a billionaire's daughter. People said Cameron was out of touch??

I don't think we've ever had such an incompetent, clueless and inexperienced cabinet. No surprise as it's all based on "will you do whatever Johnson says". They kicked anybody with any experience of skill out because - obviously - such people weren't in favour of Brexit.

I agree absolutely with @Boood's post at 10:51 that nobody with any integrity or intelligence or relevant experience would consider becoming an MP these days. Why would people leave highly skilled and stable careers that are less stressful, do not involve harrassment, and pay far more than MPs earn to potentially become an MP on a temporary contract, be subjected to the press/ public/ put their family at risk, also knowing that unless they sign up to some party mantra they'll never get anywhere with changing things anyway?

The whole system is broken. The only people who would consider it are those without the experience to be good at it, those who are meglomaniacs, or those simply trying to use it as a stepping stone to increasing their own wealth once they move on from it to higher paid roles they are equally unqualified for in the private sector.

It's a very sad state of affairs. [/quote]
I mean not that Raab or Patel are moral.

No.unless you want Gove or Hancock? Maybe Teresa May (or May Not?)

@TomPinch

They wouldn't.

I'm looking on aghast from outside the UK. For the very first time in my life, the US President looks statesmanlike and the UK PM is a dick.

Starmer isn't a dick.

Boris is making all 60m of you look like dicks in front of the whole world. The UK's selling point is that it's sensible and serious, Johnson is neither.

His government have lost in the courts repeatedly. They don't care because they have no character. Most of them are only in cabinet because they're loyal to Johnson, not because they're competent.

This isn't a left wing versus right wing issue, or even a Brexit issue.

Anyone who thinks the situation is normal is delusional.

So true.

Johnson chucked lots of very competent MPs out of the party, so they couldn't stand in 2019.

We're left with a bunch of headbangers and no-hopers. The entire government needs gone.

LakieLady is right. Charlatans, chancers, conmen and spivs. Send for Andy Burnham. He, at least, owns a comb.

God...I wish Andy Burnham was leader..at least he's got a bit of fire in his belly.

Hopefully Bozo isnt far behind Hancock. Although what would fill his place could well be worse. Don't know where Mr Starmer is. Double up on that request for Andy Burnham. Asap.

The uncomfortable truth is that the right wing working class and the populists love him, spout endlessly about what a great job he is doing and vote for him in droves without even counting the lifelong traditional wealthy/older Tory voters who I think are less keen because of his conduct but seem him as a means to an end . That whole thing about the refurbishment of the apartment just before the local elections was meant to bury him - led by the Daily Mail, it didn't. Then the local elections happened and it was a landslide. He isn't going anywhere.

I know Andy Burnham, he is a thoroughly good person. Totally committed to fairness and not afraid to stand up for what is right. I'm so disappointed in Starmer, he has vanished.
Agree with everything TomPinch says.
No one has mentioned Javid? If Priti Patel/Morgan or Raab were in charge of the NHS I think I'd take early retirement.

Sorry "Mogg" not "Morgan"

I am disappointed that 32% of you want to keep Mr Johnson as Prime Minister. The Conservative Party have probably 200 MPs or more who could do a better job as Prime Minister.

@TomPinch

They wouldn't.

I'm looking on aghast from outside the UK. For the very first time in my life, the US President looks statesmanlike and the UK PM is a dick.

Starmer isn't a dick.

Boris is making all 60m of you look like dicks in front of the whole world. The UK's selling point is that it's sensible and serious, Johnson is neither.

His government have lost in the courts repeatedly. They don't care because they have no character. Most of them are only in cabinet because they're loyal to Johnson, not because they're competent.

This isn't a left wing versus right wing issue, or even a Brexit issue.

Anyone who thinks the situation is normal is delusional.

"For the very first time in my life, the US President looks statesmanlike and the UK PM is a dick."

Are you... four years old?

Obama was very statesmanlike for eight whole years, no?

Obama was, and I'd argue the only genuine disaster US president IMO was the last one. The rest have at least been somewhat competent, even if your marker is they haven't incited people to try to overthrow the government.

@newnortherner111

I am disappointed that 32% of you want to keep Mr Johnson as Prime Minister. The Conservative Party have probably 200 MPs or more who could do a better job as Prime Minister.

But definitely not Rishi Silent But Deadly Sunak.

I suspect Boris will go sooner rather than later. He's spoken about not wanting a return to austerity - the failed economics of attack the poor and vulnerable so enthusiastically pushed by George Osborne.

So that's it for Boris. it's nothing to do with Covid and how it's been handled (well except that let the bodies pile up was the preferred approach of those in his party who want him out). It's about austerity mark two. His party want another go. Despite it being shown up as false economy (Osborne left the country in more debt). I expect we'll see Rishi Silent But Deadly as PM in the near future. And what a crap future that will be.

For Labour? Andy Burnham. Perhaps he is the right choice afterall. Yvette Cooper maybe too. Keir isn't so bad but the media don't like him, and without their support he has no chance with the public or against the Corbyn Momentum lot within his party.

Ideally the likes of Burnham, Cooper, and Starmer would work together. It would be better for the country.

We used to do history lessons about Goebbels at school and I used to think how could people fall for the propaganda. And now we're seeing it happen here. Johnson and his bloody three word slogans...Take Back Control, Get Brexit Done, Build Back Better. It's depressing.

@lavenderlou

The G7 was an embarassment. The scruffy buffoon act he likes to play up for the domestic public just doesn't wash for important global summits. There's a picture of the Bidens and the Johnsons walking along a beach. Joe Biden looked the epitome of statesmanlike, while Boris looked like an elderly labrador being taken for a walk. He came across even worse when he opened his mouth.

at elderly Labrador being taken for a walk. Spot on. Of course he got to go for a swim at one point - Joe Biden must have chucked a stick.

I wouldn’t vote for Boris or Conservative even if they were the only thing on the menu. However, you’d better get used to him because I suspect he’s going to be around for the best part of the next decade.