Can we get rid of boris now please

[Workingfromhomeishell]

Absolutely sick of this frightened government. Let's get them out and go back to normal life please. Boris is a joke. One rule for him at G7 another for us plebs. He can piss off now thanks.

@PracticingPerson

You can't have a Labour government because that's not what the majority want ... at the current time. Current polling numbers are soft, no one knows where public opinion will be by 2024.

Hasn't Johnson already said he wants rid of the fixed term act, so an election will be long before 2024.

Raab Hunt or Stewart (if he bcame an MP) would all be far better than BJ, seems to be half cut most of the time.

Hasn't Johnson already said he wants rid of the fixed term act, so an election will be long before 2024. yes there is talk of him going early, has to repeal the act first though so a year to go?

We'll see. I don;t think anyone can really predict much at the moment. He surely can't call an election until covid is properly calmed down as voters usually take a dim view of unnecessary elections in the middle of crises.

You can't have a Labour government because that's not what the majority want
It's just not happening.

I know.
The current mood is Conservative.
I wish it wasn't though.

@lavenderlou “an elderly Labrador”

I can’t unsee it now

@Quaggars

You can't have a Labour government because that's not what the majority want It's just not happening.

I know.
The current mood is Conservative.
I wish it wasn't though.

If Labour get rid of liabilities like Rayner, and find someone else to lead them, things should improve but I still can't see it happening for a long time now.

I think Starmer is a good person and he would try to do the right thing if he was PM but I just can't see him leading Labour to victory.

David Miliband would have become PM if he'd beaten his brother in the leadership race - I'm convinced of that - and who knows where we'd be now if that happened.

I'm always amazed at how people think they know better.

Stop calling him Boris! It makes him sound like a friendly, fluffy chap who everyone loves. Instead he’s a dangerous, lying, incompetent idiot.

Call him Johnson.

I agree Sofia Good post, except that neither Miliband was the right choice. Johnson was better...Alan Johnson.

Can we get rid of boris now please

No we can't.
The British public love him.
Johnson isn't a fool.
The public are.

Imo the delta/Indian variant should have been called the Johnson variant as it was his incompetence, disinterest in covid, and sucking up to India for a post Brexit trade deal that enabled its spread.

@Tealightsandd

I agree Sofia Good post, except that neither Miliband was the right choice. Johnson was better...Alan Johnson.

That's a good shout. I like that Johnson, too.

YANBU, but all the alternatives are just as shit.

@Workingfromhomeishell

Ha

But seriously, why would others continue lockdown restrictions. Deaths aren't going up. The vaccine is doing what it's supposed to. The rest of the data is irrelevant. Who cares how many people have it if they aren't sick. We need to move on from this national obsession with case numbers. The rest of the world is opening up. Only this country where we "won the vaccine race" is everyone determined to hide behind their sofa wearing a mask forevermore. We need an opposition and a new leader now to actually make some proper decisions

Maybe look up what's happening now with the delta variant in India re Black fungus. Channel 4 news had it last night and it's available on YouTube. Not dying isn't the only thing to care about.

Not dying isn't the only thing to care about.

This.

So a rare fungal infection amongst the critically ill on a different continent is is now going keep you clamouring for lockdown evermore?

Fungal infections in the critically ill are not a new thing, it's just never normally reported as the fear factor press has not been interested.

It is not a problem here.

Also, vaccinated people are not getting gcritically ill with covid.

Please stop fanning the fire of fear . try using scientific data rather than random news articles to form your opinions on medical problems.

You didn't look at what I was talking about did you. Lack of medication means inadequate doses which leads to drug resistance from it. And you do realise that delta variant let in from India is the one running rampant now? So that's a strong possibility for what's ahead to people that have had it where you are. No one is saying lockdown forever HIDE, just have a bit of cop on.

Can’t stand Johnson, but the prospect of Gove or Hancock is even worse. Sunak is the best of a really bad bunch. Starmer has been a total flop, such a massive disappointment. I don’t think there’s any British politician I’d be happy with at the moment. Maybe Yvette Cooper. We truly have got the politicians we deserve, anyone decent and intelligent wouldn’t touch the job with a barge pole, so we get left with the petty gigantic egos and megalomaniacs.

I wish we could get shut of him right now but with who? They’re all as dreadful in different ways. Who would have more integrity/ability/intelligence and relevant skills? I can’t think of anyone.

@TomPinch

They wouldn't.

I'm looking on aghast from outside the UK. For the very first time in my life, the US President looks statesmanlike and the UK PM is a dick.

Starmer isn't a dick.

Boris is making all 60m of you look like dicks in front of the whole world. The UK's selling point is that it's sensible and serious, Johnson is neither.

His government have lost in the courts repeatedly. They don't care because they have no character. Most of them are only in cabinet because they're loyal to Johnson, not because they're competent.

This isn't a left wing versus right wing issue, or even a Brexit issue.

Anyone who thinks the situation is normal is delusional.

I think I love you. The corruption and careless incompetence of this government is staggering.

You think that Keir Stamer would have missed the first five COBRA meetings because he was sorting out his love life? Or put someone as useless and inexperienced as Dido Harding in charge of T&T with 37 billion (37 billiion!!!!!) of our money?

The Tory party is basically UKIP/the Brexit Party now. Johnson kicked out all of the reasonable people in the parliament and we're just left with the zealots like Priti Patel and Michael Gove.

[quote newnortherner111]@LakieLady I disagree. Mr Johnson is the worst Prime Minister ever in the UK's history. Only Mr Orban in Hungary is possibly worse in any democratic country.

Please don't forget when you next vote that had Mr Johnson acted in April and placed India on the red list for travel, almost all restrictions would be ending next week.[/quote]
Oh gawd, failed to make myself clear!

I loathe the man with every fibre of my being, and I long to see him gone. I think his handling of Covid has been little short of criminally negligent. His failure to restrict travel from India weeks ago is just the latest in his saga of uselessness.

But given the rising rate of infection, I think the decision not to ease restrictions now is right.

@RuggerHug

You didn't look at what I was talking about did you. Lack of medication means inadequate doses which leads to drug resistance from it. And you do realise that delta variant let in from India is the one running rampant now? So that's a strong possibility for what's ahead to people that have had it where you are. No one is saying lockdown forever HIDE, just have a bit of cop on.

Are you an infectious diseases consultant?

I'm sorry what you are saying is pure and simple scaremongering.

You are extrapolating information from a different population, on a different continent, with different epidemiology, disease burden and healtcare resources. To name just a few problems with your theory.

From your Internet search you have now managed to firmly conclude that 1+1 = 17.

Please talk to a specialist in the field before going online to wind everyone up with more scaremongering .

If you want to link your actual evidence to this thread please do so. Hard scientific data please atherosclerosis, rather than lofty references to general themes etc.

@PersonaNonGarter

People complaining about Johnson’s looks would get slaughtered if it was about a woman eg Angela Merkel.

It's not about his looks...it's about his grooming..or lack of...Angela Merkel would never show up looking like an unmade bed.

He ruffles his hair deliberately before appearing on camera...and people fall for his schtick. Remember them all accusing Jeremy Corbyn of not wearing the correct suit? Look where we are now? The man's a multi-millionaire..surely he can afford a decent suit. He's representing the country FFS.

@Lockheart

The man responsible for losing the taxpayer billions in lost stamp duty.

'Billions' - can you back that up? It seems quite high.

He also actually saved taxpayers money by virtue of the fact they weren't paying SDLT - I think you mean he cost the treasury money.

He's saved some taxpayers money, namely the small proportion who have been able to buy properties relatively recently.

But all taxpayers will end up paying more to raise the money needed to pay back all the money that has been spunked on Covid, a lot of which might not have been needed if Johnson hadn't acted like a twat in the first place.

Completely agree- stuck in a fire trap flat with a young family due to the cladding scandal and I think any other leader and government would have handled the building safety crisis and the pandemic better for families and children affected than this one has.

@Tealightsandd Or even worse, Sunak.

I agree. Odious, slimy little man. Not only fouled up EOTHO and stamp duty but also the 3 million self employed unfairly excluded from covid support.