To think short men get treated poorly

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We see all the comments online, real life etc..

Comments such as:

1. "he has short man syndrome" (short women do not get told this)
2. "too bad he is short he was quite good looking" (in other words saying someone being short makes them not good looking)
3. "future children will be short" (as if that is someone's only concern and not whether the child becomes a good person. Also height of children is not solely determined by the male. There are other factors.

It is okay to have a preference but some of these "preferences" seem to be ill mannered comments.

It's shit but comparing what some men 'get' in terms of the way society treats them because of their looks will never come over well on a website designed mainly for women.

Women get judged on their looks from the time they are a child.

It starts early on.

She's pretty
She's plain
She's fat
She's thin
She's ginger
She's blonde
She's got big boobs
She's got a flat chest
She's got a big arse
She's got no arse
She's got big eyes
A fat stomach
On and on and on and on and on and on.

So no. Its not nice that short men get treated badly but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

Yes it is rubbish for short men. Heightism is the last bastion of acceptable discrimination and it's not something you can change.

@FortunesFave

It's shit but comparing what some men 'get' in terms of the way society treats them because of their looks will never come over well on a website designed mainly for women.

Women get judged on their looks from the time they are a child.

It starts early on.

She's pretty
She's plain
She's fat
She's thin
She's ginger
She's blonde
She's got big boobs
She's got a flat chest
She's got a big arse
She's got no arse
She's got big eyes
A fat stomach
On and on and on and on and on and on.

So no. Its not nice that short men get treated badly but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

All this plus personality traits that often seen as positives in boys/men but negatively in girls and women. Things like ambition, stubbornness, promiscuity, forthright (bossy/pushy), self confidence and lots more are often seen in a different light whether you’re talking about woman and not a man. Or boys and not girls.

'short man syndrome' is more of an attitude thing than actually to do with being short. It's colloquially named as such because it tends to be short men who act this was but there are plenty of tall men with short man syndrome as well.

The "too bad he is short he was quite good looking" (in other words saying someone being short makes them not good looking) is absoloute tosh. All it's saying is that the individual saying it personally would prefer someone taller. Replace 'short' with anything else and it's just another preference. I'd personally say 'too bad he is beardy he was quite good looking' because i don't like a beard. Or 'too bad he has tattoos he was quite good looking' because i don't like tattoos. Its not saying having those things makes them not good looking, it's saying i don't personally like them. Just like plenty of men say about tall women.

It just sounds like you're looking to be offended on behalf of short men to be honest

Some short men are very aggressive though. However, whether this is down to shortness or not is another matter.
DH is on the shorter side our son is absolutely enormous though so short baby thing doesn't fly. However, DH was very concerned about this before birth as didn't want baby to go through what he did. The nature of toxic masculinity though Ds is bound to get shit somewhere along the line regardless of height. Something else will displease the alphas!
And yes, women get much worse (try being a tall women for example!)

I agree. I wouldn't want to be a short man as I think they do seem to be ridiculed more, and for males it's generally seen as more desirable to be tall.

That said, as a tall woman, it is only EVER short men who pass comment on my height.

@FortunesFave

It's shit but comparing what some men 'get' in terms of the way society treats them because of their looks will never come over well on a website designed mainly for women.

Women get judged on their looks from the time they are a child.

It starts early on.

She's pretty
She's plain
She's fat
She's thin
She's ginger
She's blonde
She's got big boobs
She's got a flat chest
She's got a big arse
She's got no arse
She's got big eyes
A fat stomach
On and on and on and on and on and on.

So no. Its not nice that short men get treated badly but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

Of course no one should lose sleep over anything. But trying to say women get treated this way does not make it fair to judge others in society.

@RolloTomassi

As a fellow tall woman, I completely agree regarding the source of such comments! I always felt that my height was some sort of personal affront to them. I hope things are somewhat better these days, but maybe not? There seem to be lots more tall women around now than there were in the 70s, when I was in my teens.

@boredbuttercup

'short man syndrome' is more of an attitude thing than actually to do with being short. It's colloquially named as such because it tends to be short men who act this was but there are plenty of tall men with short man syndrome as well.

The "too bad he is short he was quite good looking" (in other words saying someone being short makes them not good looking) is absoloute tosh. All it's saying is that the individual saying it personally would prefer someone taller. Replace 'short' with anything else and it's just another preference. I'd personally say 'too bad he is beardy he was quite good looking' because i don't like a beard. Or 'too bad he has tattoos he was quite good looking' because i don't like tattoos. Its not saying having those things makes them not good looking, it's saying i don't personally like them. Just like plenty of men say about tall women.

It just sounds like you're looking to be offended on behalf of short men to be honest

Nothing to do with being offended. It is just about allowed to have preferences and being respectful. Goes for all things (height, body type, tattoos etc...)

Yes I think height discrimination is a problem for men and women. Short people are taken less seriously. A lot of women say they wouldn't date short men.

I do wonder how it's going to affect my DS growing up, I'm only 4ft 10, his dad is 5ft 2, so it's massively unlikely that he'll end up even average height.

Height is such a stupid thing to be judged on.

@LikesnowinMay glad it's not just me!

Totally agree re the "personal affront" aspect, I suspect the mouthy ones feel emasculated by a woman who makes them seem even shorter! Silly really, surely us vertical outliers should stick together!

Heightism is the last bastion of acceptable discrimination and it's not something you can change.

Is it though? I bet there are other groups who might argue with that.

Short men don’t act in any particular way at all! Can’t believe people on here are repeating that kind of shit as though they actually believe it! Guess what? Tall men can be aggressive show off too! Wow who would have thought it eh? That men can be individuals?

Yes it’s crap and discriminatory, just like “dumb blonde”. How would it be if I said “but some blondes do seem a bit thick”?

But all people with perceived negative (for most) aesthetic traits get treated slightly worse than aesthetically pleasing people. Not that that's right, but it is life. People are allowed to be attracted to whoever they want to be, for whatever reason they want.

Yeah, it’s unpleasant and unjustified and “the they people have it worse” might be true but it doesn’t make it justified. Otherwise only the very most victimised person or group in the world would have the right to complain.

As a tall woman I'm quite surprised when women say they wouldn't date someone shorter than them - I've only dated one guy who was taller than me! The rest have all been my height or shorter. Only one had an issue with my height.

Even more eyebrow raising when someone who's 5'3" says they won't date anyone under 6".

It all stems from age-old patriarchal expectations that women must be small and dainty and men must be tall and strong and if you're taller than your partner then your relationship is wrong and aberrant.

Are you a short man?

Anyone who is at either end of a spectrum tends to suffer slightly. Too short, too tall, too thin, too fat etc. I don’t agree with the points you’ve made.

I don’t see that short men have any issues finding partners, having children or having any happiness in life. Women are statistically shorter also. The short men I’ve known who thought they weren’t having relationships because they were short were deluded, it was because they weren’t appealing for other reasons.

Short man syndrome is absolutely a thing though. My husband is 6ft 5 and a gentle giant, my ex before that similar. Random short men would pick fights with them quite often, as if they had something to prove. Was very strange and noticeable it was always the same kind of man.

No one should be judged negatively on their character by physical attributes....

But...

Many women would not date a short /much shorter than them, man...

You can't expect women to change what they find attractive...

I haven't dated any man much under 6 foot 1, (im not short myself). I've yet to find a short man romantically attractive.

@TheGoogleMum

Yes I think height discrimination is a problem for men and women. Short people are taken less seriously. A lot of women say they wouldn't date short men.

That is their right to. No one should be forced into anything. But the problems arises when people make disrespectful comments whether it be on short men, tall women, body type etc...

From personal experience, a lot of men and women have unrealistic expectations when it comes to dating. The media definitely fuels this. Movies, TV shows, celebrities etc on what the perfect man or woman looks like. When in fact they do not exist. No one is 100 percent going to get everything they want/like in someone.

But surely that's entirely up to the lady who is 5.3 @Lockheart
Just because you're happy to date someone shorter, doesn't mean she has to.
It's up to her.

@RubyFakeLips

Are you a short man?

Anyone who is at either end of a spectrum tends to suffer slightly. Too short, too tall, too thin, too fat etc. I don’t agree with the points you’ve made.

I don’t see that short men have any issues finding partners, having children or having any happiness in life. Women are statistically shorter also. The short men I’ve known who thought they weren’t having relationships because they were short were deluded, it was because they weren’t appealing for other reasons.

Short man syndrome is absolutely a thing though. My husband is 6ft 5 and a gentle giant, my ex before that similar. Random short men would pick fights with them quite often, as if they had something to prove. Was very strange and noticeable it was always the same kind of man.

Why is there an assumption that I am male? I am just highlighting what I have seen from my experience. I have seen both (tall men overlooked and the same with short men)

sorry tall women being overlooked

I think ginger people are also victims of acceptable discrimination. I remember a few years ago there was a terrible advert for some tv show that said something like 'and then the lights came on and he was ginger!' cue mock horror, as if she didn't have to say anymore.
I actually fancy short guys. I'd go out with someone shorter than me but I'm 5"1 so it's rare! All the tall women can bore off too, yes you may get the odd comment but statistically you're more likely to get better jobs, earn more and be happier. I'm short with huge tits and everyone always expects me to be the one who makes the tea

I'm 5'11 and wouldn't date someone shorter than me, just as some people wouldn't date me because I was tall. Unless you're model like often a lot of men in my experience have said they prefer short women.