To think short men get treated poorly

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We see all the comments online, real life etc..

Comments such as:

1. "he has short man syndrome" (short women do not get told this)
2. "too bad he is short he was quite good looking" (in other words saying someone being short makes them not good looking)
3. "future children will be short" (as if that is someone's only concern and not whether the child becomes a good person. Also height of children is not solely determined by the male. There are other factors.

It is okay to have a preference but some of these "preferences" seem to be ill mannered comments.

I wouldn't want to date a man shorter than me, but that would make him quite short as I am only 5'5. I want to be able to reach him to kiss so I wouldn't want a giant either! I have come across an aggressive short man in my time but it's how they deal with insecurity - I have met many well adjusted short men too! Confirmation bias isn't it. I am a redhead so I accept I am not everyone's cup of tea either but those people can get stuffed!

I'm in the US and the discrimination against gingers just isn't part of the culture here the way it seems to be in the UK.

Really?

I got told off by a supermarket assistant once because I stood on the bottom shelf to reach something on the top shelf. I gave a rather curt response was that when they set their top shelves at a level accessible to fully grown adults then I'd stop standing on the bottom shelf.

This happens to me and I am taller than average for a woman. It's because they are designed by men without even thinking about the fact that women do most of the shopping and are on average several inches shorter than men.

In answer to the OP,

1. I think some men do have short man syndrome. Not all, of course, and they may well be a small minority of short men, but I don't think it should be controversial to say this. People overcompensate for all sorts of features they have. Some people use humour, others get aggressive.
2. I think it would be silly to rule out eligible men simply on the basis of them being short, but it's really all down to a woman's preference and her prerogative. Women don't owe men sex and have agency in who they want to form relationships with. We're not a commodity to be shared out.
3. Never heard anyone commenting on 'future children will be short'.

Lol short men would not be fighting this hard for your right to not be judged on your appearance

Short men and women are often treated poorly due to being short.

In the odd celeb couples thread someone said a famous women looks odd with her partner/husband as she has the body of a child, no she doesn’t, she’s just short, but that poster obviously thinks it’s okay to see short people as childlike.

@Suprima

Lol short men would not be fighting this hard for your right to not be judged on your appearance

😀

DH is short and is totally comfortable in his skin. He's kind, confident, funny and easy going. On the odd occasion someone mentions his height he just laughs it off or shrugs it off. I'm glad his height was not a showstopper for me because I would have missed out on the most amazing man.

I'm also short (5ft 3) and honestly can't remember any comments about my height. Maybe I've just been lucky.

There's only one downside to our relationship though. We have no one to do the 'tall jobs' around the house.

@TheoMeo

It's a fact that the top jobs are held by tall better looking people. Men also lose their hair - this must be quite hard to handle if it happens young. Now shaved heads are ok but they didn't used to be.

When my husband lost all his hair it was so hard. People always said it must be easier for him to deal with than a woman going through the same.

I pointed out that it's more acceptable for a woman to wear a wig, have her eyebrows micro bladed and wear false eyelashes. He could not hide what was happening to him.

[quote LikesnowinMay]@RolloTomassi

As a fellow tall woman, I completely agree regarding the source of such comments! I always felt that my height was some sort of personal affront to them. I hope things are somewhat better these days, but maybe not? There seem to be lots more tall women around now than there were in the 70s, when I was in my teens.[/quote]
Agreed

I’m just under 5 foot 3 and DH is just under 5 foot 8 so he’s quite short for a man. My last boyfriend was well over 6 foot so DH was a shock he is very good looking though and is still very young looking (his side of the family all have a young looking gene it’s sickening).

Can I also say that ginger bullying is still very much alive even in Scotland where over 10% of the population is ginger, “at least it’s not ginger” is a common saying when a baby is born there’s even “kick a ginger day” one of my DDs is a beautiful auburn colour and has been shouted at for being ginger, the other a light brown with red highlights on the sun yet still gets called “ginger pubes” I kid you not

Hear hear

For fuck sake 🙄

Do you worry about how women are judged on their looks too, or is that ok? How about you take a trip to a male centric forum and tell them to stop judging women based on how attractive they are? Good luck.

@RonObvious

Short men are less likely to be hired, less likely to hold high level positions, and have lower average salaries. There is definitely a real issue with height discrimination for men.

Like women then? Women are less likely to be hired, not paid as much, less likely to hold higher positions….

I think it is sad and awful how much women go on about only liking tall me, in front of short men, without giving their feelings a second thought. I have seen this happen lots of times and really cringed. I used to run a dating event and we had lots of short men apply. Lots of women complained they were set up with short men and we had to get everyone to specify height so that we could consider that when matching, which was a shame as originally we were matching based purely on interests and personality. Some lovely, very short men really struggled to meet partners. Personally it doesn’t put me off.

What are we classing as short for men though?
As a 5'2" woman I find any man over 5'6" is a normal height for me, I don't consider it to be short. But others are saying 5'6" is short for a man.

Boo hoo poor ickle men 😑

As a 5'6" woman, I consider myself average height and normally find men between 5'10" & 6'2" the most attractive. Any taller and you dont fit together well (standing up or lying down); any shorter and I feel big by comparison.

My fist long term boyfriend was 5'8" and had a massive chip on his shoulder about his height and would put his arm around my shoulders and push me down an inch or two when we were out together. He'd also sulk if I wore even a modest 2 or 3 inch heel.

Having said that, the best kisser and most well endowed man I ever met was 5'4" and lovely with it. He moved to Wales sadly (for me).

I think at the end of the day, we cant help what we find attractive in others but there's no need for bullying or cruelty.

Oh, and I also find ginger and blonde haired men more attractive than dark haired men. They're so rare though.

@cushioncovers anyone under 5”10 would be short in my eyes

Obviously meant men, not women

@cushioncovers

According to the ONS, the average UK man is 5'9" and the average UK woman is 5'3". Taken from 2010 data.

I'm really small, statistically if you have 100 men in a room 100 of them will be taller than me. If I'm in a room with 100 women then 90 of them will be taller than me. I'm the tallest in my family though so if I need a confidence boost I just go home and lord it over them for a while

At various stages in my life I've been teased for it and now still at mid 40s people comment on it all the time. It's never bothered me. I am who I am. The only annoying thing is getting things from the top shelf in shops, but luckily about 95% of people walking past are tall enough to reach for me

It's never made any difference in relationships. I've never been (knowingly) knocked back because of it and there are women who actively like it.

People are very casual about it though so if it was something that bothered you I imagine it's not very nice cos it's fairly constant

Meh. Let them try being a woman for a bit, they'd soon be skipping back to life as a short man.

@bungaloid

As a short man I enjoy these threads. I'm trying to collate the pros. Pros I never struggle for space / legroom on planes. So if you are a beautiful tall woman next to me I'll share my spare space no problems. This equally applies to beds or tables. It also means I won't need to pay for legroom upgrades or whinge on 12 hour flights. There's more chance you can share my bike as I'm closer to average female height. I'll likely make a better marathon runner, which might be a bonus if you're really into running. I'm assuming I eat less, so could save us family money. I'm sure there's more. Cons Ok probably loads but let's just ignore them.

So if you are a beautiful tall woman

🤔

@Suprima

Lol short men would not be fighting this hard for your right to not be judged on your appearance

You’re right. Men could never.

@the80sweregreat

I knew someone who can't abide ginger anyone ( male, female, dog, fish , you get the picture) It's always baffled me completely to have such a reaction to something that doesn't affect them at all! People are just odd.

Red pandas too?! Nooooo