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To think short men get treated poorly

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NEVERQUIT3331 · 09/06/2021 13:07

We see all the comments online, real life etc..

Comments such as:

  1. "he has short man syndrome" (short women do not get told this)
  2. "too bad he is short he was quite good looking" (in other words saying someone being short makes them not good looking)
  3. "future children will be short" (as if that is someone's only concern and not whether the child becomes a good person. Also height of children is not solely determined by the male. There are other factors.

It is okay to have a preference but some of these "preferences" seem to be ill mannered comments.

OP posts:
CounsellorTroi · 10/06/2021 10:08

And orangutans???

Whyhello · 10/06/2021 10:10

One of my oldest friends is a short man, he’s 5 foot 7 so the same height as me. He said when he used tinder a few years ago a lot of women would write ‘don’t message me unless you’re over 6 foot’ on their profiles.

It is pretty shitty. I’ve never been arsed about height in all honesty. I dated a man an inch shorter than me once with smaller feet than me! Didn’t phase me one bit.

Sparklfairy · 10/06/2021 10:12

Short men can be insecure and angry, because they're short, as in society deems this a negative and they can do fuck all about it.

My ex is 5ft5 and I never had an issue with it, but he really did. It manifested itself in controlling behaviour, cheating, projecting said cheating onto me and a later revelation on my part that he hates himself and all women.

That said, I would have no qualms about dating a short man who was deeply comfortable and accepting of himself. That's attractive.

CounsellorTroi · 10/06/2021 10:17

Yes, used to work with a guy - black hair, blue eyes, quirky grin, great sense of humour, nice, 5ft 6in. Fortunately he had a non-heightist wife!

Merchymor · 10/06/2021 10:37

@Sparklfairy

Short men can be insecure and angry, because they're short, as in society deems this a negative and they can do fuck all about it.

My ex is 5ft5 and I never had an issue with it, but he really did. It manifested itself in controlling behaviour, cheating, projecting said cheating onto me and a later revelation on my part that he hates himself and all women.

That said, I would have no qualms about dating a short man who was deeply comfortable and accepting of himself. That's attractive.

There's really nothing to be 'accepting' of though.

I've never looked at tall men, they didn't register with me as potential partners.

My OH has had girlfriends taller than him before me too.

If a man is angry and bitter he would probably have found something else to rail about other than height if he was taller!!

It's about the man not his height.

@CounsellorTroi did you work with my OH?!

Naunet · 10/06/2021 10:50

@Whyhello

One of my oldest friends is a short man, he’s 5 foot 7 so the same height as me. He said when he used tinder a few years ago a lot of women would write ‘don’t message me unless you’re over 6 foot’ on their profiles.

It is pretty shitty. I’ve never been arsed about height in all honesty. I dated a man an inch shorter than me once with smaller feet than me! Didn’t phase me one bit.

It’s not shitty for women to only date men they’re attracted to. Shaming them for that makes you sound like an incel. Is it a little rude to put it on their profile? Maybe, but at least they can’t be accused of wasting anyone’s time.
CounsellorTroi · 10/06/2021 10:54

If a man put on his profile “don’t message me if you’re over a size 8” or don’t message me if you are less than a D cup” - I doubt many women would consider him worth dating.

Naunet · 10/06/2021 10:57

@CounsellorTroi

If a man put on his profile “don’t message me if you’re over a size 8” or don’t message me if you are less than a D cup” - I doubt many women would consider him worth dating.
What do you mean “if”? Men DO that sort of stuff all the time. But just as he is allowed to only date slim women, women are allowed to not want to date him. That’s how it works, we’re all allowed our preferences.
CounsellorTroi · 10/06/2021 11:09

Trouble is when you take a preference that far it starts to sound more like a prejudice. Whether it’s men or women stating it.

thepeopleversuswork · 10/06/2021 11:12

@FortunesFave

It's shit but comparing what some men 'get' in terms of the way society treats them because of their looks will never come over well on a website designed mainly for women.

Women get judged on their looks from the time they are a child.

It starts early on.

She's pretty
She's plain
She's fat
She's thin
She's ginger
She's blonde
She's got big boobs
She's got a flat chest
She's got a big arse
She's got no arse
She's got big eyes
A fat stomach
On and on and on and on and on and on.

So no. Its not nice that short men get treated badly but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

This in neon lights. Yes, short men do get some nasty comments. But almost every conceivable physical trait in women is considered fair game. Even the theoretically "desirable" traits such as being textbook pretty, tall and well-dressed are seen as opportunities for criticism.

"Short man syndrome" is unkind. But I've come across a lot of shorter than average men who more than compensate on many fronts and I doubt many of them have cried at night about the cruelty of the world.

5128gap · 10/06/2021 11:19

@CounsellorTroi

Trouble is when you take a preference that far it starts to sound more like a prejudice. Whether it’s men or women stating it.
And so what? Who we date is an area in which we are entitled to discriminate in accordance with our tastes. Surely you can't be suggesting that women should date men with physical attributes they find unattractive in order to avoid prejudice? So, basically we must accept anyone who wants us, whether we're attracted to them or not, in case they're upset?
JeanClaudeVanDammit · 10/06/2021 11:22

Where short men get treated poorly, and I think they do, so often it’s that they’re treated poorly by other men rather than by women.

CounsellorTroi · 10/06/2021 11:24

And so what? Who we date is an area in which we are entitled to discriminate in accordance with our tastes. Surely you can't be suggesting that women should date men with physical attributes they find unattractive in order to avoid prejudice? So, basically we must accept anyone who wants us, whether we're attracted to them or not, in case they're upset?

I’m not saying that at all. I’m saying it is superficial and shallow to say “if you are not over 6ft tall I’m not interested”. I am allowed to hold that opinion.

FrumpyBetty · 10/06/2021 11:24

I'm over 6 foot (female) and two out of three of my long term relationships have been with men significantly shorter than myself (5 6" and 5 7"). Makes no odds to me. I don't tend to be attracted to a physical appearance.

BrownEyedGirl80 · 10/06/2021 11:28

They definitely get the short end of the stick

Antiqueanniesmagiclanternshow · 10/06/2021 11:36

My son is 6' 8" and before he started going out to pubs and clubs, his older 6' 7" cousin had to have a chat to him about how to handle other shorter men who get drunk and decided to have a go because of height. It is definitely a thing and he has encountered it himself now.
Everywhere he goes people comment. " you're tall!" Seems to be a favourite....as if he hadn't noticed.

I am 5' 11" which is tall enough for me to have felt like a giant throughout my entire teens and early twenties. My experience is that the majority of men want small women. So , i'm sorry small men....cry me a river

CounsellorTroi · 10/06/2021 11:45

I am 5' 11" which is tall enough for me to have felt like a giant throughout my entire teens and early twenties. My experience is that the majority of men want small women. So , i'm sorry small men....cry me a river

I'm a small woman - 5ft 2 - and have never found 6 foot blokes coming on to me much. Perhaps I don't give off an air of needing to be protected! It's just as well anyway as I prefer them shorter.

MolyHolyGuacamole · 10/06/2021 14:31

@PleasantBirthday

Heightism is the last bastion of acceptable discrimination and it's not something you can change.

Is it though? I bet there are other groups who might argue with that.

I mean exactly. For one, short men are still being paid more than women, they're fine.
DeeCeeCherry · 10/06/2021 15:56

Fat women and short men get it the worst

EmeraldShamrock · 10/06/2021 16:13

It isn't a deal breaker.
Height can be over looked if he is a confident man.
I always dated short guys I'm short but ended up with a tall guy.
You often see tall women with short men on film.

saltncheese · 10/06/2021 17:35

I've always dated short guys.
Fir the first time ever I'm dating a tall guy, and I'm sorry but I now understand what all the fuss is about.

CounsellorTroi · 10/06/2021 17:54

Height can be over looked if he is a confident man.

Yes but if he is too confident he'll be described as having short man syndrome, overcompensating etc.

CounsellorTroi · 10/06/2021 17:56

And if he drives a big car it will be described as a penis extension.

WildWaterSwimmer · 10/06/2021 18:04

@MissyB1

Short men don’t act in any particular way at all! Can’t believe people on here are repeating that kind of shit as though they actually believe it! Guess what? Tall men can be aggressive show off too! Wow who would have thought it eh? That men can be individuals?

Yes it’s crap and discriminatory, just like “dumb blonde”. How would it be if I said “but some blondes do seem a bit thick”?

^ I completely agree with this. I'm shocked at many of the comments on this post. 'Heightism' seems to be one of the only acceptable forms of discrimination these days Sad
WilsonMilson · 10/06/2021 18:05

Sorry, but all I could think of when reading that was

“He’s a very small man”….said in the voice of Declan Donnelly.

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