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To have demonstrated my absolute disdain and fury...

198 replies

MangosteenSoda · 26/05/2021 12:13

... by signing off an email with just ‘Regards, Mango’.

Is it too much Grin

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IrmaFayLear · 26/05/2021 15:56

I never knew!

I tend to put just the letters kr if I know the person formally/work. I put regards, too. Can’t be doing with a lot of flannel, eg “with my warmest personal regards” to all and sundry

LakieLady · 26/05/2021 15:58

@PlanDeRaccordement

Interesting. So can I ask you, my British friends to tell me whether closing by saying:

“With respect,

Name”

Is that good or not good?

Imo, when someone says "with respect" or "respectfully" they mean exactly the opposite.

They are the words you use when you want to tell someone they are being an idiot and/or an utter pillock, but don't want to get into trouble. It's like a big flashing light that says "You are being a dick and I'm about to tell you precisely why".

BrightYellowDaffodil · 26/05/2021 16:03

"Happy to discuss further" means "I shouldn't fucking have to but I'll explain it to you again if I have to, you fuckwit".

Removal of the 'Kind' from my usual sign off of 'Kind regards' means you have fucked me off. A full stop at the end ('Regards. BrightYellowDaffodil') you have ROYALLY fucked me off.

Ginjanotaninja · 26/05/2021 16:05

I have 3 email sign offs. Many thanks. Cheerio or TTFN (ta ta for now). I work in local government in the North. I wonder how many people have been offended. I will admit to having used this a few times too; thanking you in anticipation. ShockGrin

Sauvignonblanket · 26/05/2021 16:07

It's the people who say 'Would you kindly...' thinking they are being kind in their phrasing who really need to watch out.

honeygirlz · 26/05/2021 16:18

@ChardonnaysPetDragon

It was MNHQ who signed off an email with "Go well", I forgot who that was addressed to, it was a drama on the boards thing.

Now that was properly nuclear. I keep in it my arsenal of shitty sign off, haven't had the opportunity to use it yet.

Go well is standard for MNHQ. It means fuck off our site.
honeygirlz · 26/05/2021 16:20

@possumgoddess

On a further note on email etiquette - I tend to use 'I wonder if ' quite a lot when I'm trying to be polite to senior colleagues who haven't done what they are meant to have done. As in - 'I wonder if you have had time yet to review the strategy document that is due to go to the Board on Friday?'. I am hoping it sounds polite while getting the message across.... but maybe not? I quite often attach that to the original email in which I have sent the document and asked for a response by last week. Does it make me sound like a twat?If they just did what they said they would do in the first place I wouldn't have that problem 😭
Always avoid phrases like ‘I wonder if...’, ‘Just checking...’ ‘Would it be possible...’

It immediately signifies to the other person that you are inferior to them.

ContinuousMonotoneBeep · 26/05/2021 16:26

I always sing off with (sliding scale of knowing the person):

With kind regards,
ContinuousMonotoneBeep

Kind regards,
ContinuousMonotoneBeep

With regards,
ContinuousMonotoneBeep

Regards,
ContinuousMonotoneBeep

ContinuousMonotoneBeep

Certainly doesn't mean I dislike the person. If that's the case then I'll sign off:

Fuck you wanker,
ContinuousMonotoneBeep

I feel I must be a lot more relaxed about things than most of you lot, you are all totally unreasonable in your opinions. I must say though on the subject of email sign offs, anyone signing off 'Cheers,' is quite frankly a total twat and should be shot. This needs to be written in law.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 26/05/2021 16:29

Always avoid phrases like ‘I wonder if...’, ‘Just checking...’ ‘Would it be possible...
It immediately signifies to the other person that you are inferior to them

Depends on your level of PA proficiency. I am the boss, and I use these phrases to remind people of that Grin

Swimmum78 · 26/05/2021 16:36

I just sent an email with no sign off at all! That's how furious I am Grin

FairlyOddmother · 26/05/2021 16:48

I like to do a pass-agg 'Best' if I am pissed off.

I have a friend (in Scotland) who signs off

Aye,
Bob

which I always take to be friendly, but who knows?

PurplePlain · 26/05/2021 16:53

My best passive aggressive effort was to thank someone for being 'moderately helpful'.

MacCoffee · 26/05/2021 16:59

A couple of handy guides.

Happy to discuss definitely means “happy to discuss this face to face if you dare because I’m right and you know it you fuckwit” Grin

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MacCoffee · 26/05/2021 17:02

I quite like “Fairfarren” as a sign off. I might try to bring it back Smile

BrightYellowDaffodil · 26/05/2021 17:08

Always avoid phrases like ‘I wonder if...’, ‘Just checking...’ ‘Would it be possible...

It depends how passive aggressive I want to be Grin

"I wonder if..." means "I know already but I'm waiting for you to catch up/get the hint".

"Just checking" means "I know you haven't and this is a polite reminder. Less polite reminder to follow unless you get your arse in gear". Or else "I don't trust you to have remembered..."

"Would it be possible" means "Please do this".

MacCoffee · 26/05/2021 17:22

I used “just checking” today when I’d spotted a blatant error and needed to point out someone’s stupidity Grin

Sauvignonblanket · 26/05/2021 17:55

@FairlyOddmother I know someone who signs off Aye and looked it up - it has military connections

newtb · 26/05/2021 18:02

Locally it's still a bit.... Victorian or even Georgian. Even in emails it's a case of

I beg you to accept Madam/Sir my distinguished salutations followed, but only in email, with 'cordially'.

Between friends is just 'kisses'

We had a partner in Manchester who used to refer to letters of the inst or ult. Good job I'd read a lot of 19c novels, just couldn't remember what they meant. His client files were quite funny.

ragged · 26/05/2021 18:11

I'm not English. The English love of passive aggression... well, I'm used to it, I suppose. I have no idea why people put salutations at start or end of emails. I write emails like texts as much as possible. Begone the frippery.

Horst · 26/05/2021 18:34

I don’t do any hi/dear and just use my auto signature of first and last name to end an email.

No oh hi could you please. Just
“did you get chance to check this yet? Horst” “new client info is .... Horst”
“can you do this. Horst”

Merryoldgoat · 26/05/2021 18:44

I use ‘best’ when I’m seething.

honeygirlz · 26/05/2021 18:54

@BrightYellowDaffodil

Always avoid phrases like ‘I wonder if...’, ‘Just checking...’ ‘Would it be possible...

It depends how passive aggressive I want to be Grin

"I wonder if..." means "I know already but I'm waiting for you to catch up/get the hint".

"Just checking" means "I know you haven't and this is a polite reminder. Less polite reminder to follow unless you get your arse in gear". Or else "I don't trust you to have remembered..."

"Would it be possible" means "Please do this".

I don't think these are the subtexts the recipient receives though!

It just reads as hesitant and unassertive.

XingMing · 26/05/2021 19:29

And there was me, thinking that regards is completely neutral.............

misspattylacosta · 26/05/2021 20:24

This is a country when the worst insult you can make to your mortal enemy and their ancestors is to tut at them.

regards could not be any more savage.

AtoZed · 26/05/2021 20:34

I use Kindest Regards, then Kind Regards, Regards in that order.

Regards being "you have totally pissed me off and I will never forget this".