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To be gobsmacked that an interviewee openly told dh that he had looked at our accounts…

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ChampagneWorries · 24/05/2021 18:40

On companies house?

Dh did an interview today via zoom and the interviewee openly told him that they had looked at our company accounts on companies house to see if we were a healthy company!

Our dividends are on there and I'm really shocked that he basically admitted to being so nosey.

I know they are public information (which i disagree with) but they do show the company income, how much cash was in the bank and our salary etc.

Dh wants to offer him the job as he had some good qualities, but this has really put me off him.

I know people do look at peoples companies on the companies house, but you don't bloody tell them surely?!

Would you still offer him the job?

OP posts:
Nicolastuffedone · 27/05/2021 07:53

@SofiaMichelle

I used to look after dying people on min wage and was never EVER tipped so i will not tip people who i feel do an easier job than what i used to do.

The ungrateful bastards.

Sat/laid there dying and not tipping you.

I was a nurse for 38 yrs and nursed many, many dying people, young and old....I still find it within me to tip the hairdresser. You sound awful OP. Really, really awful. I have no words for you.
Chicchicchicchiclana · 27/05/2021 07:55

3 days later and this thread still rumbling on!

wildeverose · 27/05/2021 08:01

You're embarrassed that you earn so much, came from a humble background- but don't believe you should tip people because their jobs are too easy? That alone, not to mention how ridiculously you behaved toward the interviewee, speaks volumes about the person you are.
Coming from nothing and becoming relatively wealthy doesn't make you more superior than your hairdresser, a waitress, a care assistant - the fact you said you looked after dying people and never got tipped is one of the most hideous things I've read on here.
You smack of smugness, and new money middle class superiority- are you so embarrassed that people can see your income, because they will wonder why you're so tight about tipping someone a fiver?
Either way, this thread has coloured you pretentious, and completely self centred.
I genuinely hope this thread is a bit of wake up call going forward. It's not too late to change yourself for the better.

ChampagneWorries · 27/05/2021 08:12

The tipping people is something I really don’t understand. Why do we tip? Why is it only certain professions and not others?

My understanding of tipping is an old fashioned thing were it became a thing before the national min wage came about, many people weren’t paid a liveable salary so yes it makes sense to tip then.

But now? Why is a hairdresser tipped? If she wants an extra tenner or whatever then why doesn’t she charge an extra tenner?

I’ve never been brought up around tipping, I don’t know anyone who tips in this day and age.

Why is it only certain professions but not others who are on the same wage?

OP posts:
Jengadreads · 27/05/2021 08:35

Why do people tip?

What I don’t understand is why people DONT tip in the catering trade!

Most waiters/bar staff are students getting by on minimum wage and it’s a hard job. In the states tips can be there only income.

What’s £1 to you? £1 is a lot to them. Be kind, be courteous and most of all stop being the twat who doesn’t leave a tip!!!

longwayoff · 27/05/2021 08:36

Pffft. People tip to show their appreciation of a job well done. Clearly, this has never happened to you Champagne and probably never will.

Nicolastuffedone · 27/05/2021 08:54

Well, I suppose if you only have a joint salary of 162k you can't really afford to tip anyone.....personally, I don’t know anyone who doesn’t tip the waiting staff, hairdresser, taxi driver. I wasn’t brought up around money either, happily, I’m better off now, but it’s because I remember the lean times, I tip. Never expected it from my patients though 🤔

EuroTrashed · 27/05/2021 09:04

She’s got a joint salary of about £300k - the £162k is net. Incredible that someone can run such a successful business and have zero concept of companies / accounts / obligations. I suspect that she could quite possibly do with a lesson on director’s obligations and the distinction between the roles / entitlements of shareholders and directors

Shelddd · 27/05/2021 09:58

@Jengadreads

Why do people tip?

What I don’t understand is why people DONT tip in the catering trade!

Most waiters/bar staff are students getting by on minimum wage and it’s a hard job. In the states tips can be there only income.

What’s £1 to you? £1 is a lot to them. Be kind, be courteous and most of all stop being the twat who doesn’t leave a tip!!!

In the states tipping is insane. Completely out of hand. Waiters quite often will earn $300 In a shift when serving alcohol and $200 in places where alcohol consumption is low. It's a little crazy for a job where they train you in an afternoon.
Bythemillpond · 27/05/2021 10:09

In the states tipping is insane. Completely out of hand. Waiters quite often will earn $300 In a shift when serving alcohol and $200 in places where alcohol consumption is low. It's a little crazy for a job where they train you in an afternoon

Because in certain circumstances the waiting staff are not paid. They are only paid in tips
In other circumstances the waiting staff actually pay to work shifts in order to earn their tips
Waiting tables is so low pay that tips make up a massive part of their wage

Dontwanttolivewithmylover · 27/05/2021 10:27

I think it shows that he has a lot of nous.
Don't YOU make legal and reasonable enquiries when doing business with various companies or looking for testimonials or reviews?
I think it's healthy for people to see the trading fortunes if a company they may be working for yo see if it's in good financial health with no history if multiple name changes and resigned directors.
I think he'd be an asset and you'd be mad not to employ and support him. He was honest about what he did which shows that your attitude wishes he'd been secretive, not a good idea.

Dontwanttolivewithmylover · 27/05/2021 10:29

Corrections: of, to, of. Blush

Spidey66 · 27/05/2021 14:19

@SofiaMichelle

I used to look after dying people on min wage and was never EVER tipped so i will not tip people who i feel do an easier job than what i used to do.

The ungrateful bastards.

Sat/laid there dying and not tipping you.

Put like this, the OP does look daft!

I'm a nurse, I don't get tips. I still tip hairdressers, cabs and waiting staff.

gwenneh · 27/05/2021 14:34

@Bythemillpond

In the states tipping is insane. Completely out of hand. Waiters quite often will earn $300 In a shift when serving alcohol and $200 in places where alcohol consumption is low. It's a little crazy for a job where they train you in an afternoon

Because in certain circumstances the waiting staff are not paid. They are only paid in tips
In other circumstances the waiting staff actually pay to work shifts in order to earn their tips
Waiting tables is so low pay that tips make up a massive part of their wage

They aren't unpaid, they make $2.13 per hour before tips. Tips do make up the majority of their wage, though, so you are correct in that.
Wackaday · 27/05/2021 16:38

Wow the grammar police are in full patrol... it's really nasty to be pulling people apart on their English. This should be a safe space to share information without people being picked apart because they don't meet someone else's level of English. This is the kind of thing that made my immigrant parents so nervous to speak English in case they didn't get it quite right - so appalling!

OP is clearly a successful businesswoman but has childhood hang ups about money being discussed. I can relate, I don't like people knowing my financial situation either but in this case it's public information so is what it is and she recognises that after posting and asking for our opinion.

OP, well done to you and DH for getting where you are in life. And good on you for supporting your mum as well. Turn off notifications on this chat and enjoy a glass of worry-free champagne. All the best!

Lighttunnelahead · 27/05/2021 17:19

We run our own successful business - not sure we were or even are on top of all the rules and regulations - it’s mind blowing how much you need to know, so don’t be too hard on the OP for not having her head around it all. You want to try it sometime before you start judging.

CandyLeBonBon · 27/05/2021 18:37

@Lighttunnelahead

We run our own successful business - not sure we were or even are on top of all the rules and regulations - it’s mind blowing how much you need to know, so don’t be too hard on the OP for not having her head around it all. You want to try it sometime before you start judging.
As hmrc state, lack of knowledge is not a defence!
skodadoda · 27/05/2021 19:12

@ChampagneWorries

Ahh I’ve just noticed it should be “I would never have...”

Or is that not correct either?

Yes, that’s correct.
Bythemillpond · 27/05/2021 19:14

gwenneh

Wow a whole $2.13 per hour.

I think that is if you are in regular employment with a restaurant/care/bar etc

I have seen adverts for high end restaurants in the past where the waiters pay to work shifts.

But I think they are then considered as self employed so the $2.13 doesn’t apply to them.

BertramLacey · 27/05/2021 19:34

This is the kind of thing that made my immigrant parents so nervous to speak English in case they didn't get it quite right - so appalling!

There's usually a difference between the mistakes made by native and non-native speakers. So for e.g. the OP said 'would of'. It's a common mistake in native speakers who hear the abbreviation 'would've' as 'would of'. Non-native speakers learning English are taught which verbs take 'have' and which take 'be' and understand the structure of the verb so they realise 'would of' is nonsense.

I have no problem with the mistakes made by people trying to learn a language but sometimes the mistakes made by native speakers are fucking irritating. I tend not to say anything about it on here though as A. I make mistakes myself and B. I wouldn't want to stop someone seeking advice just because their grammar's not perfect.

skodadoda · 27/05/2021 19:47

@BertramLacey

This is the kind of thing that made my immigrant parents so nervous to speak English in case they didn't get it quite right - so appalling!

There's usually a difference between the mistakes made by native and non-native speakers. So for e.g. the OP said 'would of'. It's a common mistake in native speakers who hear the abbreviation 'would've' as 'would of'. Non-native speakers learning English are taught which verbs take 'have' and which take 'be' and understand the structure of the verb so they realise 'would of' is nonsense.

I have no problem with the mistakes made by people trying to learn a language but sometimes the mistakes made by native speakers are fucking irritating. I tend not to say anything about it on here though as A. I make mistakes myself and B. I wouldn't want to stop someone seeking advice just because their grammar's not perfect.

This is so true.
Lighttunnelahead · 28/05/2021 02:49

@CandyLeBonBon you have clearly never dealt with HMRC as a small company - but even they will and do give you the benefit of the doubt- you’ll still have to pay but they understand the challenge of knowing all the rules and regulations that you clearly don’t. You know nothing.

pmama · 28/05/2021 13:44

Candidate did the right and a completely normal thing - when you attend an interview, you should check the company as well. Yes, it involves the credibility for a going concern as well!

smilingontheinside · 24/06/2021 15:04

Shows interest and initiative and I would be impressed tbh.

MadMadaMim · 29/12/2021 14:08

@ChampagneWorries
YWBVU - I hope the enthusiastic thorough new employee worked out for you.

FYI:
Minimum wage does not mean living wage far from it.

Living wage:
ÂŁ9.90 (about ÂŁ2 more in London)
Min wage:
Age 23 and over - ÂŁ8.91
Age 21 to 22 - ÂŁ8.36
Age 18 to 20 - ÂŁ6.56
Under 18 - ÂŁ4.62

A huge number of workers in the services, evtertainment, food/drink/restaurant industry are under 20 (and many have multiple jobs).

They RELY on tips to survive.

If you don't agree with tipping (you didn't explain why), then wherever possible, at least ask for the service charge to be removed and then give the service charge as a tip - eg restaurants.

Your being underpaid/undervalued in the past does not at all justify your not tipping anyone who hasn't had it as hard as you have. Quite the opposite, IMO. You should fully understand and appreciate what it feels like and how lack of finances impact every aspect of you life. And yet you do the opposite - you're doing to others exactly what was done to you. Very weird logic.

Tipping is a choice. I don't know anyone who doesn't tip. I grew up in a big northern city surrounded by extreme unemployment and poverty. My parents worked hard - in restaurants, washing dishes, working in kitchens, then to the next job (sharing a cab - night shift), and did similar to what you're doing - being successful and earning enough (nowhere near what you're earning) to be comfortable.

They always tip - always. And they don't direct their frustration at being treated badly in the past, to others who may also be undervalued/underpaid.

Hopefully, your husband balances put your skewed views.

(I think the grammar comments are mostly around your use of -'of'. It is not a verb in any context and you're misusing in place of the verb 'to have'... (in various ways) 'I would of' makes no sense. I would have. You wouldn't have. He will have. She could have. We should have. Sadly, a very common mistake these days.