To think Harry/Meghan are coming out of this worse than the Royal Family?

[Bassarid]

Is it just me?

Haznat Khan was a private man whereas Dodi Fayed and his father shouted it from the rooftops. I remember at the time they couldn't shut up about it.

Re the Diana Statue. On the offchance that Harry may not come, (or maybe even if he does come), if I were Prince William, I would enlist the aid of some 'backup', possibly Charles Spencer, or one or more of the Spencer sisters, whose names currently escape me.

If Harry were genuinely concerned about his wife's safety the obvious thing to do would be quietly withdraw from public life. By stoking things up and insulting his family he is generating more interest in their activities.

He reminds me very much of Donald Trump - saying one thing whilst blatantly doing the opposite.

@Proudboomer

Diana was with Haznat Khan for more than two years and their relationship only ended a few weeks before she died. Khan is also a person of colour and Muslim and yet it didn’t gain the same interest as her relationship with Dodi which at the time of her death had only been a few weeks long. Yet Harry still had to bring race into his claims that she was chased to her death while she was in a relationship with someone that wasn’t white”, to his relationship with Meghan Markle and he had to stop history repeating itself.

It's kind of creepy how he has almost superimposed his wife onto his mother. Ignoring the fact that Diana died because she got into a car driven by a drunk and didn't wear a seatbelt. If the man beside her had been as blonde and blue-eyed as she was, it wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference.

I don't think Harry will come. For his sake I hope he doesn't.
He will cite new baby.
Megan will send flowers and let us know the significance of each and every one.

I think it will be very awkward if he does still come so it is probably best if he does use the pregnancy as an excuse.
I can’t see how he could even possibly start to repair his relationship with Charles and William as any discussion they might have they can have no faith won’t be repeated next time he gets a bit of airtime and without trust there can be no reconciliation.

Oh god, I hope he doesn't come back. It won't go the way he wants it to and he will come home with a whole new set of complaints. At this point I think he should take some time away from everything and sort himself out.

Yes Harry definitely superimposing one issue on to another. Diana"s driver was over the limit. That would have been the case no matter what colour her dinner date was.

@rinoachicken yes v implausible. My dc their 1st words were "up" and "no".

@amusedtodeath1

Oh god, I hope he doesn't come back. It won't go the way he wants it to and he will come home with a whole new set of complaints. At this point I think he should take some time away from everything and sort himself out.

Didn't Harry say that he finds London 'triggering'? And since he apparantly cares about his mental health so much, obviously it's best if he stays in California.

I know this thread has gone 32 pages in already but I have to agree with the Op.

For me, it was when Prince Philip died. It could have been a time of moving towards each other and healing. Which would mean saying sorry to each other and not talking about things anymore.

However, for there to be more 'revelations' and accusations - it seems crass.

The fact that the Queen put out such a well worded statement, right at the start, about 'different recollections' and then being quiet on the whole thing has showed a maturity that Harry and Megan are not currently, and they are getting in the way of their own healing with their family.

*not talking about things, in public, anymore.

Is what I meant to say.

Her father has two brothers, one of whom is in the diplomatic service and jgot Meghan work as an intern as some embassy whilst she was a uni. He was pretty upset to be missed off her wedding list. The other uncle is a minister of his own church, so possibly embarrassing, but even so. They've never slung mud in her direction since her wedding.

The presence of her father's two brothers at the wedding might have just highlighted her father's absence.

Showing my age here but my oldest first word was Pat. Solely because his collection of postman pat videos was the only thing that would settle him and he would watch them daily for as long as he could get away with it.

If they were not royal, they would be classed as a toxic family. If only people can see that, they would be advising Harry to go NC with them.

This, absolutely. Throw in the media intrusions and manipulations, then add the general public’s treatment of them and entitled behaviour on top and then take a good hard look at what they’ve actually been going through. It’s appalling and I can’t believe anyone condones it for a second.

@Andylion

Her father has two brothers, one of whom is in the diplomatic service and jgot Meghan work as an intern as some embassy whilst she was a uni. He was pretty upset to be missed off her wedding list. The other uncle is a minister of his own church, so possibly embarrassing, but even so. They've never slung mud in her direction since her wedding.

The presence of her father's two brothers at the wedding might have just highlighted her father's absence.

But if Thomas was invited but then later didn’t come either due to the falling out or having a heart attack why want these uncles invited at the same time Thomas and Doria were? The narrative Harry and Meghan give is that Thomas pulling out was a last minute thing so invites would have gone out long before.

I was on their side until Oprah. They said way too much. The lack of compassion for how his own family would feel really baffled me. Why go that far.?
And now he keeps going! he should shut up already. He obviously needs therapy and this should be done privately, not on Oprah.

Yes, even if everything had gone exactly to plan, the only members of her family that would have attended Meghan’s wedding were her mother and her father. Only one of whom the groom had met previously. That’s certainly unusual when you are talking about a big wedding.

@Proudboomer I agree with you. I just thought it would have looked really strange if the uncles had attended and the father didn't.

For a pair that said they wanted privacy they've an odd way of ensuring they get it !

They've insulted my intelligence.

Harry has had years of therapy ( from what I have read online) : he was also patron ( or wherever they call it ) of ' heads together' ( a mental health charity ) with his brother and Kate and ( I would imagine) all the help he would have asked for as he grew up. As far as I can see , it really has not worked at all. Maybe meeting and marrying Meghan made him realize he still had a way to go, but interviews with Oprah Winfrey and her team isn't really the way to move forwards. Plus I cannot believe that he could nt help his own wife when she was struggling herself ( and pregnant) surely he would be more in the know than most ordinary people who need some help or therapy? Have someone on speed dial?
Part of me feels sorry for them both ; the part of me thinks that none of this will end well for him :( plus the public will grow weary of them both (if they haven't already done so. )

@Andylion

Her father has two brothers, one of whom is in the diplomatic service and jgot Meghan work as an intern as some embassy whilst she was a uni. He was pretty upset to be missed off her wedding list. The other uncle is a minister of his own church, so possibly embarrassing, but even so. They've never slung mud in her direction since her wedding.

The presence of her father's two brothers at the wedding might have just highlighted her father's absence.

I can't imagine not inviting my uncles to my wedding. One of them could have walked her down the aisle. As I've said before, the Royal family aren't snobs. The people surrounding them are. Of course you can ask anyone you like to your wedding but how did Meghan explain the lack of relatives to Harry.

"If they were not royal, they would be classed as a toxic family. If only people can see that, they would be advising Harry to go NC with them."

Nonsense. Take away the royal bit, and you've got a pretty typical family. Yes, his parents divorced, but that's hardly unusual and things were beginning to settle down a bit with the acrimony when Diana sadly died). Harry has a father (who until recently he described affectionately as kind and supportive), a stepmother who, again, he appeared to have a reasonable relationship with, a brother (hitherto close to) and his 3 lively kids (and Harry is known to adore young children and in any other circumstances would be having a whale of a time playing with them), a sister-in-law he described as being the older sister he'd never had and there is LOADS of video footage of them laughing and joking together, grandparent(s) still alive to a ripe old age, lots of cousins (who he appeared to have close and warm relationships with until recently), and similar relatives on Diana's side.

I don't know what he was expecting when he returned for Philip's funeral - the fatted calf perhaps, but it seems he was taken aback at the frosty reception. I wonder if he will one day, sooner or later, regret what he has thrown away. It didn't have to be all or nothing. He could have kept his family onside AND remained with Meghan.

Another anti Meghan bitchfest. How very original Op

@Lampzade

Another anti Meghan bitchfest. How very original Op

How very typical for someone to read HARRY / Meghan, but only see 'Meghan.'