To think the UK should not fund the Eurovision Song Contest?

[NowIsTheSpringOfOurDiscontent]

Or bother entering obviously.

It’s a humiliation and everyone hates us so we hardly get any votes. None this year due to Brexit and the Covid vaccine probably.

Poor James . He certainly didn’t deserve NIL points!

@waitingforthenextseason

Oh, and don't overlook Amanda Holden's utter disdain for Europe by making it clear that only English counts, pretending she didn't know which language 'bon soir' was.

Every other country representative proudly speaks multiple languages. Here, many are proud not to. Again, embarrassing and puts the rest of Europe off.

I did think that that made Holden come across as a vacuous, xenophobic arsehole tbh. She must have trained at the Jim Davidson School of Tap.

[quote astery]@Giantrooster
My friends and family in Europe say that Brexit is not an issue talked about or that anyone is interested in now. It has happened.[/quote]

And they are so right, we have our own issues. We really don't spend that much time pondering about the uk .

But I bet all brits are very up to date on what goes on in my Scandinavian country and theycdon't just think it should be only Britain that is the main focus of the world .

“Oh come OFF it. As a pp said, even if we put Ed Sheeran, Adele, or Paul McCartney up there, they'd still give us fuckall points.”

Oh come on we might not be in the EU anymore but that’s taking things too far.

@JocastaNu

Our song was shite. It really was. Other countries send their best and we send x-factor wannabees. James wasn't even in tune for half his song. It may have been better if he had sent someone else to sing it. He's a good songwriter but he's not a performer.

That being said, the fact that a tap dancing hand flipping us all off and a country in the midst of committing genocide did better than us is a little worrying.

Is that a dig at Israel? How about acknowledging Palestinians and those on their political bandwagon are committing the equivalent of harakiri

We can respect each other differences differences without bringing Gary Barlow’s less talented cousin and Someone Like YOOOUUU into it.

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@museumsandgalleries666
First of all, people have the right to oppose their lands and homes being stolen. But even if you want to call the Palestinians terrorists fine. You don’t “solve” terrorist problem by killing dozens of children.

Israel is the world’s 10th military power. Hamas is about 1000th.

When the IRA was putting bombs around London, Westminster didn’t “respond” by dropping a thousand bombs on Belfast and killing hundreds of children living in that city.

The fact that a former ISRAELI PM said that he would almost certainly have taken up arms for the Palestinian resistance at some point had he been born Palestinian ought to give some people pause for thought.

According to Eurovision stats for ten countries' viewers who voted on the 2020 entries, UK would have done far better last year (16th)
eurovisionworld.com/esc/10-countries-have-decided-this-song-should-have-won-eurovision-2020
Spotify data had us tenth.
Even Netflix's musicologists gave James's My Last Breath 5 points.
It was the better song out the two...

How about acknowledging Palestinians and those on their political bandwagon are committing the equivalent of harakiri

This is a Eurovision thread. Palestine are not contestants.

The response to the Israel scores during the judges section was noticeably less than the others.

UK nil points got booed.

Greece and Malta exchanged 12s. Malta traditionally score us high so that was interesting.

Not so many Balkan States so that in group voting was less than usual.

It's always been political. The voting is fascinating.

That's part of the point of watching it!

And nil points goes down on a history Eurovision list. They're talked about nearly as much as the winners! Nil points is the most famous phrase/ thing from the whole show

I thoroughly enjoyed it and so did the kids.

Should we leave? Well, no! How pathetic would that look.. Flouncing off like a kid losing a board game

@DioneTheDiabolist

How about acknowledging Palestinians and those on their political bandwagon are committing the equivalent of harakiri

This is a Eurovision thread. Palestine are not contestants.

They’d 100% win.

Would be awesome.

I would totally go for Bill Bailey doing it as long as he's in charge of the staging as well. Our staging is always totally crap.

Even better...Bill Bailey ropes in Oti Mabuse to dance on stage then...twist the european audience won't see coming, busts out his moves!!! Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

Off the top of my head; someone like clean bandit, Anne Marie, skepta, Charlie xcx, jake bugg could all get us top 5 spots.

I'm sure AJ Tracey would do the honours the next year . Eurovision has no credibility, so anyone who can get in the charts here wouldn't touch it with a bargepole.

@sandgrown

I think our entry didn’t win because he was not wearing Lycra or glitter .

No, it was a tinselly binbag instead.

I never understand all the angst - I thought as a pp said the entire point of Eurovision is that we enter a crap unknown singer, with no experience of singing in front of a large live audience, who sings an unutterably dull song, and then people watching at home all sit drinking wine and scoffing snacks while cheering as we get nil points from yet another country.
That's what we do and it is huge fun. It would totally ruin the vibe if we won.

Of course it is political or biased or whatever - anything with a subjective voting element is going to have some kind of bias even if it an unconscious one. But ultimately we didn't win because our song was pure shite.

[quote EmphaticPeriod]According to Eurovision stats for ten countries' viewers who voted on the 2020 entries, UK would have done far better last year (16th)
eurovisionworld.com/esc/10-countries-have-decided-this-song-should-have-won-eurovision-2020
Spotify data had us tenth.
Even Netflix's musicologists gave James's My Last Breath 5 points.
It was the better song out the two...

[/quote] This song is much better, such a shame that last years competition didn't go ahead. James was clearly popular in the arena so that;s something for him at least. I haven't heard Graham Norton be so sympathetic to a contestant doing badly for a long time as well. He clearly was genuinely rooting for him.

@Littlepaws18 Utter rubbish was a good song, better than a lot Albania, what was that all about? Germany as Norton rightly said 'like an educational video warning children not to eat soap'. Granted Janes wasn't the best but he was a lot better than some efforts last night. Voting was purely political.

But Eurovision voting is based on who has made people's top ten. Even if you aren't the worst, you might end up with no points because no-one cared enough to have you in their top ten. You could be everyone' 11th favourite act and end up with zero, behind more divisive acts. I could still hum along to Germany's entry this morning. I've already forgotten UK's song.

@NiceGerbil

How can the vote be political when the general public, across loads of very diverse countries get to vote on the acts?

The UK only moans about the vote being political because we do so badly, a bit like with football and the biased refereeing we also seem to get lol!

It's always been political! Haven't you noticed? It used to get right up wogans nose

It's been moaned about forever.

The whole idea we should flounce off is hilarious!

Amanda Holden was an embarrassment. Nigella Lawson was just right, a bit camp and multilingual. When I was very little I used to get a bit confused about who was Katie Boyle, who was a Beverly Sister and who was June Whitfield. It was only when she was very elderly I discovered Katie was actually Caterina Irene Elena Maria Imperiali dei Principi di Francavilla. Makes Nigella look a bit rough, really.

DHs friends used to live in Luxembourg, close to the German boarder.

There was a phone box in the village they lived in and once voting opened, there would be a polite queue of Germans who had driven over the boarder in order to vote for Germany from a Luxembourg phone line.

Reports of similar scenes on the German/French boarder (with traffic going both ways, when his friend lived in Luxembourg they'd not put in an entry).

It really shouldn't be a surprise that neighbouring countries vote for each other!

@FatCatThinCat

It has nothing to do with brexit or vaccines. Nobody votes for the UK as it consistently enter any old shite and then moan and whinge when we come last.

Here in Sweden is is seen as such an honour to take part and represent the country, that our top performers compete to do it. We send what we think is genuinely our best new song and other countries do the same. In the run up to the final we hear lots of the songs on the radio. They are very popular. But we rarely hear the UK one as it's usually rubbish. And why should we like it when you don't even like it yourselves.

But in Britain most of the other entries are considered shite, and wouldn't make it onto the playlists of radio stations, even if you consider them great. Our top artists would laugh if it was suggested they should consider it an honour to be asked to represent us. We don't like our entry because it never reflects the music that sells here, and is always bland rubbish trying to appeal to people with no taste in music.

Maybe the UK top artists need to pull their heads out of their arses if they would laugh at the chance to represent their country in front of an audience of 180+ million viewers.