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Why is the Diana interview a bigger news story than the farmers being shafted over Brexit?

180 replies

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 20/05/2021 16:12

Just that really? Yes it’s an interesting story but the fact the deal means Australian farmers can sell their produce cheaper in the U.K. which will decimate British farming is a much bigger one.

Truss has to be the worlds worst negotiator. The Australians must be pissing themselves laughing. They have farms bigger than the U.K. and can flood the market.

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poundoflard · 20/05/2021 16:20

Its sucks. Diana and the Royal family is attractive to social media .
Finding out about where your food comes from and how shit it can be being a British farmer isnt interesting to the media. Everyone wants cheap food regardless . It should be an eye opener.

Nightbear · 20/05/2021 16:25

It was always going to be shitty for many British farmers but apparently it’s worth it for a blue passport and ‘taking back control.’

Horehound · 20/05/2021 16:26

Maybe because farmers voted for Brexit..

Ylvamoon · 20/05/2021 16:27

Its a smoke screen.

WhoNeedsaManOfTheWorld · 20/05/2021 16:28

No sympathy for farmers. All the farmers round me had their fields full of vote leave posters
Let them get screwed

parietal · 20/05/2021 16:29

the bbc always want to write about the bbc. they think they themselves are the most important thing.

Badyboo · 20/05/2021 16:29

I'd imagine it is because despite the many warnings, many many farmers voted for Brexit. Rural communities did so overwhelmingly.

Streamside · 20/05/2021 16:29

They're two very different issues but the farming issues are really worrying

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 20/05/2021 16:31

I know the farmers mostly voted for it and my concern isn’t so much for them, it’s for the countryside. If they go to the wall, then they’ll end up selling their land to developers. This is not good for wildlife or humans.

I’m pissed off they voted for it but them being shafted has potential wider consequences.

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Nightbear · 20/05/2021 16:35

We can have also end up with cheap American meat - stuffed full of hormones and antibiotics and intensively farmed with little regard for animal welfare. It’s a shame so many farming communities voted for it.

Nightbear · 20/05/2021 16:35

And all the fishermen who voted for it seem to have suffered too.

Brown76 · 20/05/2021 16:37

Why did farmers vote for Brexit? I know they got EU subsidies and seasonal workers from the EU, as well as a tarrif free export market. What were the downsides? Regulation?

ClarkeGriffin · 20/05/2021 16:37

@JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil

I know the farmers mostly voted for it and my concern isn’t so much for them, it’s for the countryside. If they go to the wall, then they’ll end up selling their land to developers. This is not good for wildlife or humans.

I’m pissed off they voted for it but them being shafted has potential wider consequences.

They would probably prefer the hefty sum of money from developers really. Can retire very nicely then and no more hard work every day.
JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 20/05/2021 16:40

Coming to the countryside near you. Former farm which went bust sold to American investment company and replaced by a giant Amazon warehouse, identikit Barrett homes for the managers, non fire proof tower blocks for the workers and a lorry park.

Why oh why did they vote for this?

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derxa · 20/05/2021 16:43

I don't know why you think this is the case but most of my Twitter feed comes from sheep farmers. I think this is another Brexit bashing thread. I am a farmer who didn't vote for Brexit by the way and I know many who didn't. The whole thing is worrying but my family has been in farming for centuries and have weathered the storm including the Great Depression. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression_of_British_Agriculture

abonae · 20/05/2021 16:45

Nothing wrong with us and Australia having tariff an quota free access to each others' markets. Free trade benefits both parties.

shallIswim · 20/05/2021 16:47

The BBC is painfully keen on flailing itself when it gets things wrong.

countrygirl99 · 20/05/2021 16:50

@Brown76

Why did farmers vote for Brexit? I know they got EU subsidies and seasonal workers from the EU, as well as a tarrif free export market. What were the downsides? Regulation?
The farmer I know where as divided as the rest of us with as varied reasons for their vote. The most vocal one who voted Brexit mostly thought a lot of their regulations would be done away with and they could go back to using banned pesticides. But that person is pretty stupid over most things so it wasn't a surprise they thought that way. Others were really worried about the impact. Most of my farming friends are 100% arable so producing commodities it's hard to differentiate in the market.
Notonthestairs · 20/05/2021 16:51

BBC is constantly on the back foot with current cabinet and new chair of Ofcom - so it's upped it's self flagellation.

Scrowy · 20/05/2021 16:52

There are lots of farmers on mumsnet. Please try and remember that before attempting to stereotype them.

No one actually knows how farmers as a whole voted, as with every job there can be a vocal minority. Nearly all of the farming press was heavily remain.

In my social group of farmers there was a split that was fairly representative of the National vote.

Farmers did not 'vote for Brexit' but those who were very pro Brexit as with other sectors of society who were pro Brexit were very vocal about it including putting out large signs.

I do believe there was a naivety from those who were vocal about it who assumed that coming out of Europe would mean opening trade with the rest of the world, perhaps not realising the consequences of this.

Perhaps they also thought that a Tory government would look after them (when actually history shows they have usually done better under labour governments).

Either way, as a remain voting upland sheep farmer, on a tenanted farm (so no land to sell to developers) who without subsidies was going to be reliant on the income we get from sheep, the future feels bleak at the moment.

JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil · 20/05/2021 16:53

It’s the top story on Sky news as well.

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GintyMcGinty · 20/05/2021 16:54

Dead, glamourous princess v farming story.

Do you really need a thread to know the answer to this?

derxa · 20/05/2021 16:55

Perhaps they also thought that a Tory government would look after them (when actually history shows they have usually done better under labour governments). Yes Scrowy My DF always said that.

Handsnotwands · 20/05/2021 16:55

@WhoNeedsaManOfTheWorld

No sympathy for farmers. All the farmers round me had their fields full of vote leave posters Let them get screwed
I came to say much the same.
Windy1234 · 20/05/2021 16:56

Farmer here who voted to remain so please dont generalise that all farmers voted to leave