Why is the Diana interview a bigger news story than the farmers being shafted over Brexit?

[JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil]

Just that really? Yes it’s an interesting story but the fact the deal means Australian farmers can sell their produce cheaper in the U.K. which will decimate British farming is a much bigger one.

Truss has to be the worlds worst negotiator. The Australians must be pissing themselves laughing. They have farms bigger than the U.K. and can flood the market.

@Mandalay246

That doesn't change the fact that farming is bad for the environment.

Where would you like to get your food from then? Would you prefer for there to be no farms and all the available land built on? Would that be better for the environment?

Living in a country which relies heavily on farming I find some of you have very strange views.

I would prefer there to be no livestock farming, for as much farmland to be rewilded as possible and for the farmland that is required to produce food to be farmed organically and with as little impact to the environment as possible.

To all the people whimpering about the BBC and impartiality. Impartiality is a different issue: it's about balance. It would be nice if the BBC were impartial. The Diana interview was 25 years ago.At that time, the BBC was one HELL of a lot more impartial than it is now. Few of the people involved are still alive, let alone working. The issues raised by this inquiry are integrity and honesty. Those have also gone out of the window in the last ten years. Stop focusing on it because it was Diana and pay attention to the REAL issues NOW that the government is trying to distract you from.

Diana collaborated with the Andrew Morton book , but she denied it at first. She also led the media on , making sure they were around when she was coming out of her expensive gym or on someone's yacht. She wasn't always completely honest and courted publicity: she probably would still be like it now if she had lived , only worse with social media being around. She wouldn't have liked the press concentrating on Katherine and not her when they were first dating.
I was upset when she died and I did watch the now famous interview with Bashir but public opinion of her was changing just before she died, people were growing weary of it all ( remember there had been acres of coverage about it all long before this interview.)
I feel the media are being made a scapegoat when none of them behaved with a huge amount of decorum to start with.
They are all ( or were ) dysfunctional and I pity the ones born into it all really. They will also have all the negative press to deal with too or make mistakes.
A lot of people do not want the BBC to continue and I can this institution being fazed out in time.

I would prefer there to be no livestock farming, for as much farmland to be rewilded as possible and for the farmland that is required to produce food to be farmed organically and with as little impact to the environment as possible. So you will be happy with no farming here. That means we will buy all our food from countries where animals are not treated well. The other countries will all have to suffer the environmental damage entailed in producing food of all kinds. People want cheap food so they won't buy the highly expensive to produce organic and 'environmentally friendly' food. You're happy with vast swathes of Spain under poly tunnels. You must be very well off.

@JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil

‘If you can’t sell your sheep, Derxa, you’ll have little choice but to sell up unless you’re a hobby farmer.’

‘Wow. Nasty.’

Flipping hell I wish I had your life if you think this is nasty. Some of the things said to me during my life would have you reaching for your fainting chair and smelling salts!

There will never be an instance when I can't sell my sheep. You know nothing about farming whatsoever.

@JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil

‘If you can’t sell your sheep, Derxa, you’ll have little choice but to sell up unless you’re a hobby farmer.’

‘Wow. Nasty.’

Flipping hell I wish I had your life if you think this is nasty. Some of the things said to me during my life would have you reaching for your fainting chair and smelling salts!

It doesn’t work like that, does it?

The standard for what is civil discourse isn’t “Is it worse than the worse thing that’s ever been said to any of us?” (thank fuck).

In the worst assault I ever sustained, I broke eight bones. Does that make it okay for me to slap people? Nope.

You’re not making much sense in any thy you say, really.

Worse than the worst^

If you actually look at the proportion of farmers that voted for Brexit, it pretty much mirrors the national vote - something like 52-53% voted for it depending on which survey/exit poll you read

I don’t think OP wants facts getting in the way of her moan. 🙄

I'm pro choice. Let them sell their meat here. I won't buy it if animal welfare is poor. I would like labelling standards to be high, so you know exactly what you're buying. I am lucky enough to be able to buy meat from small UK farms where standards are high. But if you're really struggling to feed your family, a cheaper source of meat must be a godsend and why prevent that opportunity? I can imagine that some farmers will lose out, which is sad. But undoubtedly there will be farms that prosper with their current customer base who will always buy local first, if they can.

As for the BBC, they knowingly caused a lot of people a lot of hurt and damage.

@Brokensharted

Because the farmers made their beds and are now being forced to lie in them.

One of the only positive sides of Brexit is watching the turkeys who voted for it realise Christmas has come.

I was wishing that Brexit would stop hard of thinking people trotting out that tired old cliche about Turkeys even ten seconds. Sadly not.

@RickiTarr

If you actually look at the proportion of farmers that voted for Brexit, it pretty much mirrors the national vote - something like 52-53% voted for it depending on which survey/exit poll you read

I don’t think OP wants facts getting in the way of her moan. 🙄

Exactly.

To all the people whimpering about the BBC and impartiality. Impartiality is a different issue: it's about balance. It would be nice if the BBC were impartial

Fangsforthememory
I think a lot of people are more concerned that the BBC which is the National broadcaster for which we all pay for, stooped to forgery, lying and fraud.
It also caused terrible damage to innocent people such as Tiggy Legge Bourke and Diana’s private secretary, not to mention the young Princes.
However maybe you think these ‘posh’ people deserve everything they get.

@Andante57

To all the people whimpering about the BBC and impartiality. Impartiality is a different issue: it's about balance. It would be nice if the BBC were impartial

Fangsforthememory
I think a lot of people are more concerned that the BBC which is the National broadcaster for which we all pay for, stooped to forgery, lying and fraud.
It also caused terrible damage to innocent people such as Tiggy Legge Bourke and Diana’s private secretary, not to mention the young Princes.
However maybe you think these ‘posh’ people deserve everything they get.

Diana was divorced in '92, Andrew Mortons book came out the same year. Charles was porking his ex, whilst still married, his kids spent far too much time with a nanny. Diana wanted the interview and with or without the forgeries, would have done one, she was at her wits end by '95 - she didn't even know about them at the time. Papers like the Mail, Express, NoW, Sun etc etc plus numerous overseas news outlets hounded Diana to her death.

Forcing to v young boys to walk behind their mums coffin.. FFS that was an awful thing to do.

Whats happening now is just a re writing of history, blaming the "leftie BBC" for this tragedy, instead of looking at how the media (overall) behaves and still does.

To go back to the original question - it is because it isn't about Lady Diana per se it is about the BBC and broadcasting standards.

I can't believe it took until NiceGerbil's post on P5 to actually answer the question.

The BBC are the national broadcaster who are supposed to be impartial and honest.
What Martin Bashir did was truly shocking and the editorial decision and consequential cover up is what the issues / 'news story' is.

The BBC is publicly funded and holds itself up as an integral organisation respected throughout the World. That is why it is a shocking report.

@abonae

Nothing wrong with us and Australia having tariff an quota free access to each others' markets. Free trade benefits both parties.

However it doesn't benefit the environment. Not to mention the unnecessary transportation of LIVE animals, half way across the world. It makes no sense to me, unless live exports are not part of the deal.

@BackforGood

To go back to the original question - it is because it isn't about Lady Diana per se it is about the BBC and broadcasting standards.

I can't believe it took until NiceGerbil's post on P5 to actually answer the question.

The BBC are the national broadcaster who are supposed to be impartial and honest.
What Martin Bashir did was truly shocking and the editorial decision and consequential cover up is what the issues / 'news story' is.

The BBC is publicly funded and holds itself up as an integral organisation respected throughout the World. That is why it is a shocking report.

Martin Bahshir did the same with the MJ interview. meaww.com/martin-bashir-wronged-michael-jackson-in-documentary-exaggerated-princess-diana-bond-fans-reactions

Whats happening now is just a re writing of history, blaming the "leftie BBC" for this tragedy, instead of looking at how the media (overall) behaves and still does

I agree the media behaves appallingly but just because the BBC isn’t the only media outlet to behave badly - or in the Martin Bashir case, criminally - then that doesn’t mean when evidence as has emerged, the perpetrators shouldn’t be censured.
Do you think because many newspapers use appalling methods the News of the World shouldn’t have been criticised because it wasn’t the only one behaving badly?

I am a farmer's daughter from Australia and can remember the devastating effect that Britain joining the EU had on the cattle markets in Australia. Imports from Australia stopped overnight and the value of livestock dropped to the extent that if a beast got sick it was shot because it was worth less than the cost of a visit from the vet.

My father sold up and retired rather than do that.

In truth, farming is hard and insecure wherever in the world you are doing it. Probably why farmers the world over have a reputation for complaining. (Often quite justified complaints.)

I agree pricing in charity shops can be really inconsistent. I have never haggled in one before but recently I bought a pile of books. One hardback was marked £4.50 but the pages had water stains on. It was a contemporary novel, not first edition or anything. I offered £2.50 which the woman agreed was more realistic. She did say, "Oh dear, I'm not sure who priced that one..." 🙂

Oops... Sorry. Please ignore above, wrong thread! 😳

How does shipping farm produce from the other side of the world correspond with the UK's climate change commitments?

Clearly it is better for the planet to trade with your nearest neighbours. Unfortunately, our government made ours hate us and now we have to trade with the country further away possible.

I will be boycotting anything that comes into the country under this trade deal.

I would prefer there to be no livestock farming, for as much farmland to be rewilded as possible and for the farmland that is required to produce food to be farmed organically and with as little impact to the environment as possible.

While that sounds lovely in theory, it's not what will happen. Many more people eat meat than don't so livestock farming won't go away. Farmland wouldn't be rewilded, developers would snap it up for housing, and organic produce tends to be more expensive than non so many wouldn't be able to afford fresh produce.

What about countries who rely heavily on agriculture - are their populations to be plunged into unemployment? Do you live in a rural area? Where I live the majority of the people are reliant on agriculture for their livelihoods - I lost my accountants office job in a farming downturn.

A few dreamers are not going to change the way the world lives, sorry.

@Crankley

How exactly does this stop you still buying British produce? WRT meat, I will always buy free ranged, sourced meat and although it's more expensive would prefer to eat less meat as a result. Quality over quantity.

Wtf is “sourced meat”?

I think by ‘sourced’ meat they mean meat where you know where it comes from down to the farm. We have that in our butchers who have the name of the local farm that supplied the meat on the packet so you know how far it travelled etc.

UK farmers are getting the shafting they voted for. Good for them.