Why is the Diana interview a bigger news story than the farmers being shafted over Brexit?

[JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil]

Just that really? Yes it’s an interesting story but the fact the deal means Australian farmers can sell their produce cheaper in the U.K. which will decimate British farming is a much bigger one.

Truss has to be the worlds worst negotiator. The Australians must be pissing themselves laughing. They have farms bigger than the U.K. and can flood the market.

Yes because I could understand if she was still alive but she died about 25 years ago. It’s not a top story. Sky had it on for ages interviewing all sorts who worked at the BBC when I was still at school. I’m now in my 40s.

People like James O'Brien and Femi always feign concern about farmers because they detest Brexit. It's the same type of concern I got on the ultra Remainers threads on here.

I have as much sympathy for the farmers as I have for the fishers. Zero. The vast majority voted Leave, so fuck them.

They deserve everything that’s coming to them, and I hope they get it good and hard.

I’m no more bothered about farmers than any other worker and I’m sure they don’t give a shit whether I keep my job either. I’m especially unbothered about people who willingly throw away their jobs.

But I care about what happens to their land.

@JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil

Coming to the countryside near you. Former farm which went bust sold to American investment company and replaced by a giant Amazon warehouse, identikit Barrett homes for the managers, non fire proof tower blocks for the workers and a lorry park.

Why oh why did they vote for this?

What a pile of shit. We've had all of those around here (except the tower block) over the last 10 years, and it all started before the Brexit vote even happened.

@Windy1234

Farmer here who voted to remain so please dont generalise that all farmers voted to leave

Don't come on here trying to point out reality - everyone knows generalisations have been reclassified as "facts".

So because we already have warehouses you want everywhere else to be built over then I take it?

@AgeLikeWine

I have as much sympathy for the farmers as I have for the fishers. Zero. The vast majority voted Leave, so fuck them.

They deserve everything that’s coming to them, and I hope they get it good and hard.

Vast majority of the remain voting farmers I know were under 50, have young families and just want to produce high welfare meat.

But 'fuck em' because some other people who do the same job as them were vocal about voting leave?

I actually feel like crying.

You realise you are attacking other mumsnetters here who had nothing to do with the leave vote.

Out of interest, do you eat?

I am not so sure it is a bad thing though. Bear with me.....

British Beef/Lamb etc is mainly produced for the quality market, fresh to supermarkets, and butchers. Cheaper meats are already imported from EU for pies and burgers etc. So, are we not talking about different markets? There is still, and I assume will remain, an appetite, literally, for British meat, and this at the upper end of the market, with the premium price reliant on that unique sell. Imported meats will go to a different, cheaper end of the market, which British Farmers already don't supply anyway.

Does that make sense, or am I talking rubbish?

@JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil

I’m no more bothered about farmers than any other worker and I’m sure they don’t give a shit whether I keep my job either. I’m especially unbothered about people who willingly throw away their jobs.

But I care about what happens to their land.

Do you really? I've fended off potential developers for years.

Yes, many many farmers voted for Brexit. From the farmers I know and speak to regularly (which in 100+), many also didn't (tending to be younger demographic). Unfortunately some of this was down to misinformation about protocols and auditing which some believed came from the eu, but is actually a British only enterprise. Please support British farming, its incredibly important for our food standards and the economy. Lots of farmers are tenants and have no land to sell to builders, that lies with their landlords. They work harder than any other industry, never get time off, and tenant farmers quite frankly earn a pittance a lot of the time. Please don't generalise a whole slab of the population as one thing. It's depressing. This is coming from a very left leaning remainer who just happens to work in agriculture.

@Notonthestairs

BBC is constantly on the back foot with current cabinet and new chair of Ofcom - so it's upped it's self flagellation.

This.

Unfortunately. Even if some of the methods used to secure the interview were dubious it was 26 years ago! She was an adult, with an agenda of her own and with plenty of advice available should she have sought it.
Any then senior BBC employees who might be held culpable are long gone and Bashir has left. It is all pointless, unless you have vested interest in undermining the BBC or maintaining Diana as an icon.

Yes. Yes I genuinely do care about their land. I want it looked after and not built over. Maybe the government can take over failed farms and have the land owned by the state so it can’t be built on.

If you can’t sell your sheep, Derxa, you’ll have little choice but to sell up unless you’re a hobby farmer.

@JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil

Yes. Yes I genuinely do care about their land. I want it looked after and not built over. Maybe the government can take over failed farms and have the land owned by the state so it can’t be built on.

If you can’t sell your sheep, Derxa, you’ll have little choice but to sell up unless you’re a hobby farmer.

One of the nastiest responses I've ever had in all my years on MN. Believe me I won't be selling up and and I won't be discussing my finances with you.

It would not have been if ITV or Sky had made the mistakes concerned, but it is the BBC, who the government wish to have a go at given any opportunity.

How exactly does this stop you still buying British produce? WRT meat, I will always buy free ranged, sourced meat and although it's more expensive would prefer to eat less meat as a result. Quality over quantity.

Just turned off radio, I wasn't interested in that interview and I'm not now. Sad to see our news media following a click-baity self obsessed media naval gazing story rather than something that will actually affect our lives. I am genuinely surprised as confused why any farmers / fishers thought brexit would be good for them. Surely they understand the common agricultural / fisheries policies better than your average person?!

This is an odd thread - I thought it was about the media obsession with the royal family and current editorial choices/pressures. Instead it looks simply like a chance to put the boot in to all UK farmers.

‘One of the nastiest responses I've ever had in all my years on MN. Believe me I won't be selling up and and I won't be discussing my finances with you’

How was I being nasty? I wasn’t prying into your finances, I don’t know you and I don’t care about them. It was a hypothetical question and I’m being logical. If you’re a farmer that’s not making any money from the product you’re farming, then surely you’ll go out of business? If selling your product is not a concern because you don’t need the money from that then isn’t that a hobby? It’s not a job? If you do need the money then you’d have to sell it as farms cost money to run.

If I couldn’t afford the upkeep of my house, I’d have to sell it. That’s not a nasty thing to acknowledge. It’s just how it is.

No it’s not a chance to put the boot in. I believe the Diana story isn’t a top story, the farmer story is. We can see this by how many people care more about the farmer issue than the Diana one.

Just came on to say that plenty of farmers did not vote for brexit, and the NFU recommended to vote remain. But yeah why not just say ‘fuck then’ to the few people left who could produce essential goods in a food crisis. Some of you are genuinely very unpleasant.

@Notonthestairs

This is an odd thread - I thought it was about the media obsession with the royal family and current editorial choices/pressures. Instead it looks simply like a chance to put the boot in to all UK farmers.

I think that was the intention. Personally I think we should all get into our tractors and head off to Westminster and spray George Eustace, Liz Truss and Boris with slurry. As for Minette Batters her faith in BJ is pathetic. For once I'm glad to be in SNP led Scotland.

@JackieWeaverHandforthCouncil

‘One of the nastiest responses I've ever had in all my years on MN. Believe me I won't be selling up and and I won't be discussing my finances with you’

How was I being nasty? I wasn’t prying into your finances, I don’t know you and I don’t care about them. It was a hypothetical question and I’m being logical. If you’re a farmer that’s not making any money from the product you’re farming, then surely you’ll go out of business? If selling your product is not a concern because you don’t need the money from that then isn’t that a hobby? It’s not a job? If you do need the money then you’d have to sell it as farms cost money to run.

If I couldn’t afford the upkeep of my house, I’d have to sell it. That’s not a nasty thing to acknowledge. It’s just how it is.

You don't give up do you. Your concern for the land is faux concern. All of this is catastrophising. We don't know how this will work out. At the moment lamb and beef prices are sky high.

Because people are idiots about Diana.